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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Miss Mia on September 15, 2008, 04:59:52 PM
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Sep-15-08 04:20 PM
Original message (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4006778)
Report from an friend in Galveston (insurance adjuster)
He says that they've closed the airspace over Bolivar Peninsula and Crystal Beach because THEY'VE FOUND OVER 900 BODIES FLOATING OUT THERE. AND THE MORGUE IS OVERFLOWING.
It turns out it was a friend of a friend that said it. :whatever:
jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Sep-15-08 04:27 PM
Response to Original message
13. Sounds false to me. Is this a friend of yours, or a friend of a friend?
First, this exact same rumor was rampant during Katrina, and wasn't true. Second, there has been plenty of aerial footage over Crystal Beach and the Bolivar Peninsula, none showing bodies. Third, I doubt there were 900 people on Crystal Beach during the hurricane.
Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Sep-15-08 04:31 PM
Original message
It's not false. This guy was talking to THE guy who should know.
He's one of those guys who cleans up after disasters (not an insurance adjuster, duh); I can't remember what they call them. But he's been on the city council and his family is "old money" and he's very well placed. If I could tell you who he talked to, you would believe him, but if I did that, then I would be "outing" him as telling me and no one would give him any inside info anymore.
I'm sorry, but it's true.
jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Sep-15-08 04:42 PM
Response to Original message
30. Friend of a friend, then. Exactly the same rumors we saw after Katrina.
Ask your friend his name, he won't know it, he'll reveal it was the friend of someone else he knows, and on down.
It's okay, people fall for these rumors all the time. That's why they keep popping up over and over. You shouldn't spread them, though.
Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Sep-15-08 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #30
38. I'm sorry, but you're wrong.
My friend is a city council member. He knows who to talk to. And he talked to THE guy who could give him the information. This is not a rumor. The morgue is full, over 900 dead and counting.
io-solip (64 posts)
Mon Sep-15-08 04:48 PM
Response to Original message
39. Sorry but that is BS. I've been talking to my neighbor who stayed in GLS on ham radio
Edited on Mon Sep-15-08 04:49 PM by io-solip
off and on all day. There is absolutely no legitimate information on floating bodies and overflowing morgues. STOP THAT SHIT.
edit: I'm posting from my brothers where we evacuated to last Friday (we brought out 2 people who wanted to leave...did not find anyone
else who did but was unable to)...GLS is Galveston, we live just east of the airport.
Kristi1696 Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Sep-15-08 04:50 PM
Response to Reply #39
45. And how exactly would your friend know?
Particularly when helicopters are restricted from filming the area and reporters are being shut out?
Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Sep-15-08 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #39
52. Yeah, them ham radio enthusiasts would know.
Instead of the authorities whose job it is to know.
Yeah, right.
sfexpat2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Sep-15-08 04:53 PM
Response to Original message
49. If this was true, you would post your source. n/t
io-solip (68 posts)
Mon Sep-15-08 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #49
65. We may have to wait 48 business hours.
Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Sep-15-08 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #49
66. If I tell you who my friend spoke with, he would never get info again.
I'm not going to do that.
He's a member of the city council and he spoke with a person in a position of authority, who would have every reason to know this information and no reason at all to lie to him.
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900 dumbasses who didn't want to leave are now floating lifeless in the gulf? Oh well. Maybe next time they will listen. Meanwhile, life goes on.
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Sep-15-08 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #49
66. If I tell you who my friend spoke with, he would never get info again.
I'm not going to do that.
He's a member of the city council and he spoke with a person in a position of authority, who would have every reason to know this information and no reason at all to lie to him.
io-solip (71 posts)
Mon Sep-15-08 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #66
73. Your friend is on the CITY ****ING COUNCIL and has to consult with someone "in authority"??
Do you have any idea how totally stupid this claim makes you look?
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what an idiot (big surprise). There are flooded graves causing caskets to float. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080915/ap_on_re_us/ike_restless_dead
And 100,000 people didn't leave and are hampering relief efforts - http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20080915/ts_csm/aike
While some 2.3 million people in Texas and Louisiana evacuated, more than 100,000 are estimated to have refused voluntary and mandatory evacuation orders along Ike's 200-mile surge zone.
Thankfully, there were few injury and fatality reports as the federal government led a massive rescue and relief effort that included Coast Guard reconnaissance helicopters, dozens of airboats, and massive National Guard assets ranging from inflatable Zodiac boats to Humvees, as well as thousands of troops.
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If you google it, you can find links and information about a storm in 1900 where they had to stack bodies up in a makeshift morgue. Maybe she's off by a hundred years or so? :-)
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I haven`t read them because my BS tolerance has been a bit low the last few days but there have been at least a half dozen threads that sound like the DUmmies are trying to make up a "Katrina" story.
Claiming that folks are dead,abandoned...etc and that a mysterious cover up is under way.
They are so simple and obvious (except to themsleves) it is laughable
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Sep-15-08 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #38
84. The source in Hancock County was the head of emergency management.
Friends of friends swore there a thousand bodies hanging from trees. There were stories of a thousand bodies floating in Lake Ponchartrain in Slidell, too, from other friends of friends who knew. Except that it was a lie.
Think about it for a minute. Honestly. There's no morgue in Crystal Beach that could hold a hundred, much less 900 bodies. To collect 900 bodies, not all of which would be intact, and take them to a morgue or morgues large enough to hold them, you'd need a thousand vehicles at least. Those vehicles couldn't even get into the area until today. Meanwhile, there have been flyovers since late Saturday, there have been people rescued from the peninsula and interviewed about what they saw--no one would mention this army of vehicles? No one would be describing the stench of almost a thousand rotting corpses?
And by the way, Crystal Beach doesn't have a city council. It's not even incorporated. So where is your friend a city councilmember from? And why is he talking to someone who will spread rumors on the Internet but not talking to the media?
Jobycom just slapped Th1onein down. LOL
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:rotf: :popcorn: You really can't make this stuff up! Maybe she can sit next to Joanne98 who's still waiting for shit/fan to meet. :fuelfire:
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Her source is DUmmy lonestarnot, who will be doing a happy, happy, giddy dance, in capital letters of course, within the next 24 business hours.
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:rotf: :popcorn: You really can't make this stuff up! Maybe she can sit next to Joanne98 who's still waiting for shit/fan to meet. :fuelfire:
And really isn't the destruction from Ike bad enough as it is? You don't need to make crap up. She doesn't realize that she just looks like an idiot, as well and those that automatically believe this crap.
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Her source is DUmmy lonestarnot, who will be doing a happy, happy, giddy dance, in capital letters of course, within the next 24 business hours.
Crap, that's the DUmmie I meant instead of Joanne. :-)
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Her source is DUmmy lonestarnot, who will be doing a happy, happy, giddy dance, in capital letters of course, within the next 24 business hours.
Crap, that's the DUmmie I meant instead of Joanne. :-)
But Joanne's a first rate nut too. :wink:
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I hope someone replies back to her and asks if lonestarnot is her "source".
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She is either lying or passing on a rumor to have something to make people notice her over.
I talked to someone who DOES know.
She needs to stick to trying to get her pen pal boyfriends on death row spared.
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900 dumbasses who didn't want to leave are now floating lifeless in the gulf? Oh well. Maybe next time they will listen. Meanwhile, life goes on.
Well, THAT 900 wouldn't, if the whole thing was true in the first place.
:evillaugh:
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I've said it before and God knows I will say it again but..... "Shit like this is why people should have jobs!"
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-15-08 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #101
136. I don't know who Skeletor is. But I believe my City Council friend
because he talked to the guy who, above all, should know what's happening down there.
And, yeah, I'm going to tell people, because it's the right thing to do. I understand that you want to know the source, and I'd be a fool if I asked you to believe me just because it's me. But you can also understand that I cannot reveal my source, because it would be detrimental to him.
I don't come on here and spout bullshit. Read my previous posts.
This has got to be one of the best lines ever posted by a DUmmie.
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-15-08 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #101
136. I don't know who Skeletor is. But I believe my City Council friend
because he talked to the guy who, above all, should know what's happening down there.
And, yeah, I'm going to tell people, because it's the right thing to do. I understand that you want to know the source, and I'd be a fool if I asked you to believe me just because it's me. But you can also understand that I cannot reveal my source, because it would be detrimental to him.
I don't come on here and spout bullshit. Read my previous posts.
This has got to be one of the best lines ever posted by a DUmmie.
Nice Catch !!
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-15-08 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #101
136. I don't know who Skeletor is. But I believe my City Council friend
because he talked to the guy who, above all, should know what's happening down there.
And, yeah, I'm going to tell people, because it's the right thing to do. I understand that you want to know the source, and I'd be a fool if I asked you to believe me just because it's me. But you can also understand that I cannot reveal my source, because it would be detrimental to him.
I don't come on here and spout bullshit. Read my previous posts.
This has got to be one of the best lines ever posted by a DUmmie.
Can't....... :rotf: .......breathe........ :lmao: ........sid....... :lmao: .........e..........hurtin :rotf: .................. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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I have a question: suppose there ARE 900 bodies floating down there. Who gives a shit? These are people who could have left, but didn't. Why is it an outrage if people didn't do what they should have, and died as a result? Why would the government care about hiding that? Why is DU supposed to be whipped into a frenzy because of it? I don't get it.
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Th1onein
I don't know who Skeletor is.
(http://bringthenoise.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/skeletor04062005.jpg)
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I have a question: suppose there ARE 900 bodies floating down there. Who gives a shit? These are people who could have left, but didn't. Why is it an outrage if people didn't do what they should have, and died as a result? Why would the government care about hiding that? Why is DU supposed to be whipped into a frenzy because of it? I don't get it.
In the mind of a DUmmie, if your a cokehead who willingly snorted 2lbs of coke, and died of a massive OD, then it's automatically Bush's fault.
Personally, I think that everyone of the people who called for a rescue should be billed for the cost of the rescue. They where ordered to evacuate, ignored that order, then demanded that we come and rescue their ass. **** them.
On the topic of how dumb the OP DUmmie is, this post made me giggle.
Th1onein (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-15-08 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #112
143. Hello? Hello? Are the mods out there anywhere?
Please read the rules of this forum. All of your posts are going to be deleted and your trolling days will be over soon, if you don't.
I just told you that there is no Crystal Beach City Council and that my friend is not a member of THAT city council. Is there something wrong with your ability to comprehend?
You are accusing me of something for which you have not a piece of evidence. Either that, or you are just really, really confused.
Translation: "MODS! Save me, cause I've made myself look like a dumbass!"
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I have a question: suppose there ARE 900 bodies floating down there. Who gives a shit? These are people who could have left, but didn't. Why is it an outrage if people didn't do what they should have, and died as a result? Why would the government care about hiding that? Why is DU supposed to be whipped into a frenzy because of it? I don't get it.
Simply because they don`t give a rats ass about anyone who may or may not have died.
They consider Katrina a political "win" and nothing more so in their simple minds they think they can repeat that.
They are ghouls,wishing to feed on dead,real or fabricated for the hopes of political gain.
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Th1onein
I don't know who Skeletor is.
(http://bringthenoise.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/skeletor04062005.jpg)
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No the other one. :-)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n104/tuolumnejim/maria20shriver1.jpg)
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io-solip (68 posts)
Mon Sep-15-08 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #49
65. We may have to wait 48 business hours.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I love it when one of the DUmmies does that.
Of course, that could be a mole, too.
Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Sep-15-08 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #49
66. If I tell you who my friend spoke with, he would never get info again.
I'm not going to do that.
He's a member of the city council and he spoke with a person in a position of authority, who would have every reason to know this information and no reason at all to lie to him.
"He's my super-duper top secret secret source."
Give it a few days and Th1onein will be bringing up Jeb's ice trucks.
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-15-08 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #100
134. I don't know who Skeletor is. But I believe my City Council friend
because he talked to the guy who, above all, should know what's happening down there.
And, yeah, I'm going to tell people, because it's the right thing to do. I understand that you want to know the source, and I'd be a fool if I asked you to believe me just because it's me. But you can also understand that I cannot reveal my source, because it would be detrimental to him.
I don't come on here and spout bullshit. Read my previous posts.
I'm not sure what Skeletor did or even who he is, but I'm sure that the truth will come out. You can't have that much devastation and not have a big body count. It's not logical.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s51/Misfitsfiend86/Skeletor.jpg)
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You know...this same kind of rumor was started by a now banned "member" at FR in the hours immediately following Katrina.
A friend told this FReeper that there were bodies "in the trees" in Biloxi and that a beach front hotel had been swept away with people inside...over "1,000" dead.
The alleged friend making this wild claim was allegedly an "EMS Medic".
Well there were some gullible people there that believed it and I stuck to my guns against about 15 people over there claiming that what this person was saying just wasn't true.
The end result was that despite this person asking me what my DU name was and calling me a troll repeatedly...he was banned and I'm still there.
The reason I bring it up is that this story that the DUmmie is spinning sounds like a take on the same theme.
Perhaps we've accidentially discovered the DU name of the idiot that tried that rumor at FR over Katrina.
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You know...this same kind of rumor was started by a now banned "member" at FR in the hours immediately following Katrina.
A friend told this FReeper that there were bodies "in the trees" in Biloxi and that a beach front hotel had been swept away with people inside...over "1,000" dead.
The alleged friend making this wild claim was allegedly an "EMS Medic".
Well there were some gullible people there that believed it and I stuck to my guns against about 15 people over there claiming that what this person was saying just wasn't true.
The end result was that despite this person asking me what my DU name was and calling me a troll repeatedly...he was banned and I'm still there.
The reason I bring it up is that this story that the DUmmie is spinning sounds like a take on the same theme.
Perhaps we've accidentially discovered the DU name of the idiot that tried that rumor at FR over Katrina.
Ironically enough...
Th1onein (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-15-08 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #176
199. You guys know each other from the site that can't be named, don't you?
Edited on Mon Sep-15-08 07:48 PM by Th1onein
A little too chummy there. And a little too heavy on the attack mode and too light on the information load.
Why don't you go on back where you belong? You won't last long here, I promise you.
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Ironically enough...
Well that pretty much confirms what I thought all along...that it was a DUmmie moling over there.
And now I know the name.
fu**er came about THIS close to getting me banned because so many people there fell for his crap and for about 4 hours I was the only one who called bullshit on it.
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-15-08 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #243
244. He's not an insurance adjuster....
I know I wrote that, in the original post, but that was the first thing that came to my mind about what he does for a living. He's one of those guys who goes out after disasters and cleans up the mess for big companies. I don't know what you call someone who does that type of work.
I'm providing as much cover as possible, given the circumstances. Now, I know how reporters feel when they are pressured to give up their sources. It's difficult being called a damned liar when you're just trying to convey information, and you CAN'T give up your source.
:whatever:
Then try this on for size you stupid cow...
I talked to someone in the recovery headquarters and they flat out TOLD me that there is no mass casualty recovery effort underway there.
You are not only a damn liar you are a damn RETARDED liar.
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900 dumbasses who didn't want to leave are now floating lifeless in the gulf? Oh well. Maybe next time they will listen. Meanwhile, life goes on.
I thought DUmmies believed in "EVOLUTION", survival of the fittest and all that. Well, this is a case of evolution at work, those DUmmies, if they ever existed won't be part of the gene pool anymore. The human species has just improved itself.
.....except for the fact that my cousin called from Galvaston today, no mention of large #'s of bodies.
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Geez this thread is chock full of Win:
Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-15-08 06:17 PM
Response to Reply #62
93. Looks like you aren't gonna last very long, with an attitude like yours
we've seen a thousand others just like you come down the pike...
NONE of your posts have been the least bit informative... nothing but righteous indignation, faux outrage and bitter spewing...
I would say 'welcome to DU', but I don't like wasting my breath
:-) That's right!!!! Only poeple with 1k post counts can post nothing but righteous indignation, faux outrage and bitter spewing!!! nOOb!!!! :whatever:
Th1onein (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-15-08 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #232
246. So there's three of you. And you've got all of the info you need
to set up multiple accounts. I bet the mods are going to be interested in that.
You guys are always SO obvious. You have no substantive info to ad to the general discourse; so it's all personal attacks. And when you stage them, you gang up, and hunt in packs, because at heart, you are cowards. And, always, always, the low post count.
It probably ENRAGES you when you get tombstoned, doesn't it? Do you really think you'll change any minds and hearts here? Or are you just making yourselves feel like big guys by posting here and then reporting back to your respective blogs about how you took on the "DUmmies"?
It's really sad. And kind of pitiful
Th1onein (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-15-08 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #26
31. They don't want another "Katrina-like" event to remind people
this close to the election. There will be hell to pay. Notice they're already blaming the victims for staying?
He says that there is a "major fuel shortage" there; people lined up for MILES in front of gas station, to get fuel.
Just like they were in Baton Rouge in the week following Gustov.
These chimps were also hooting in this thread about how they had shut down air traffic in the area to "Suppress The NEWS!!!!" :whatever:
They shut down air traffic to keep the jillion and one vultures from the media from interfering with legitimate SAR by dicking around trying to get eye candy shots. I have heard from a ton of people about the close calls and near misses during Katrina because some jackass in a Bell Ranger was hovering over houses with people on the roofs shooting "Oh The Humanity" shots while the Coasties and other SAR birds were trying to get in and get them picked up.
The stupidity being displayed in this thread is really astounding even for the DUmp.
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Th1onein
31. They don't want another "Katrina-like" event to remind people this close to the election.
That pretty much spells out why she's lying.
As one of the "they" who don't want people to die in bad storms, the reason for not wanting it has nothing to do with politics. As for you, Th1onein, it's clear you do want death for political purposes. No, I don't expect you to be honest with yourself or anyone and admit that it's true, but it is.
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Th1onein is an absolute basket case, certifiable. With Joanne98, bridgit and undeterred one has a great start filling an asylum.
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Another DUmbass with an "I can't 'prove' it, but I KNOW this to be true," line of shit. Next. :whatever: :whatever: :whatever:
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900 dead = about 12,000 relatives who will have to be silenced in order to keep the secret. This monumental task will be must less taxing for the Bush Administration than the 247,000 that had to be silenced after Hurricane Katrina.
Piece-0-cake!
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No, it's true, it's true !!! there were hundreds of bodies floating.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/thundley4/ike24.jpg)
Source (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_short_but_eventful_life_of.html)
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No the other one. :-)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n104/tuolumnejim/maria20shriver1.jpg)
Put the crack pipe down, Maria.
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So let's see, Melanie wants to spare the lives of death row scumbags but is jumping up and down with glee that 900 hundred people are presumed to be dead because that will effectively taint the Repugs??? Oh my.
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Th1onein is an absolute basket case, certifiable. With Joanne98, bridgit and undeterred one has a great start filling an asylum.
Th1onein and Joanne98 are mental health counsellors, compared with undergroundpanther, philosoraptor, and sfexpat2000.
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-16-08 12:52 PM
Response to Original message
258. Th1onein, I believe that there is a cover-up of deaths in progress,
regardless of the number, I believe your source(s) are basically accurate and I know that there are operatives galore here on this information warfare battleground (and intelligence open source).
Thanks for starting this thread.
Ah yes. The old DUmp standard of Fake But Truthy Sounding...
onenote (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-16-08 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #258
283. "basically accurate" LOL
At what point would you characterize the story as basically INaccurate.
If there are 100 deaths instead of 900 -- is the story still "basically accurate"
If the number of bodies found "floating" off Bolivar Peninsula is 50 not 900, would that be "basically accurate" information?
Because those numbers are far more likely to be accurate (and may well be too high) than an entirely ridiculous claim of 900 bodies found floating off the peninsula and no one, except one "friend" of a DUer, saying diddly squat about it.
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900 dead = about 12,000 relatives who will have to be silenced in order to keep the secret. This monumental task will be must less taxing for the Bush Administration than the 247,000 that had to be silenced after Hurricane Katrina.
Piece-0-cake!
They just paint them brown and dump the bodies in Iraq and Afghanistan. That's why the DUmmie death count is so high.
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Well at least the primitives aren't letting her get away with it (God love 'em).
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From the front lines,...........One, insurance adjusters aren't even allowed on Galveston Island as of this time. Essential rescue personnel and other personnel germane to assessing actual public loss to infrastructure (Water, sewers systems, electric facilities) are allowed into Galveston proper. Two, People with actual proof of business or home ownership are being allowed onto Galveston on a look and leave basis as of this afternoon. Three, There is a dusk to dawn curfew on the Island. Four, Galveston will never be the same as it was before, keep the emergency workers and the people in Galveston in your prayers.
That being said, it is extremely difficult to ascertain as to who left and who stayed on the Bolivar Peninsula. The culture down there is of rugged independence, even if the inhabitants can be flaky at times, they do not like to be told what to do.........even with a mandatory evacuation order issued. There could be more casualties.