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Title: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: CactusCarlos on September 15, 2008, 04:29:37 PM
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Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Posted by pathansen on Mon Sep-15-08 09:22 AM

Why is it always assumed that we are more highly evolved than animals?
1. ANIMALS ARE NON-MATERIALISTIC - They are not greedy and only take what they need to survive. All my cat needs is food, shelter and affection and he's happy.
2. ANIMALS DO NOT START WARS
3. ANIMALS LIVE IN HARMONY WITH NATURE - They don't destroy the earth. They are not the cause of Global Warming.
4. ANIMALS DO NOT PUT HUMANS ON THE "ENDANGERED SPECIES" LIST - We are putting ourselves on it.
5. ANIMALS OFTEN SEEM TO HAVE SPECIAL POWERS THAT HUMANS DON'T HAVE - A 6th sense.
6. ANIMALS DON'T HUNT AND KILL HUMANS JUST FOR FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT
5. FINALLY, ANIMALS ARE LOVING CREATURES WHO HAVE OFTEN RISKED THEIR LIVES TO SAVE HUMANS - Watch hundreds of true stories on Animal Miracles, Miracle Pets. Several times I've seen even pigs rescue humans. It makes me cry.

I suppose a creature that licks its butt is far superior to you, pathansen.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: Lord Undies on September 15, 2008, 04:52:48 PM
1. ANIMALS ARE NON-MATERIALISTIC - They are not greedy and only take what they need to survive. All my cat needs is food, shelter and affection and he's happy.

Animals are extremely selfish and care only about others to the extent it involves them.  They cannot reason, so this behavior is natural.  They are ANIMALS.

2. ANIMALS DO NOT START WARS

Yes, they do.  Have you never watched a National Geographic film?  Some animals are very war-like.  Of course, this behavior stems from the fact they cannot reason to any great extent because they are ANIMALS.

3. ANIMALS LIVE IN HARMONY WITH NATURE - They don't destroy the earth. They are not the cause of Global Warming.

"Nature" dictates to animals, not the other way around, because......they are ANIMALS.  They have no thumbs.  They have no ability to reason.  Animals depend on mankind, who do a darn good job.  Tell your cat to open his own damn can of food sometimes.  Mankind is W-A-Y above the animal kingdom.

4. ANIMALS DO NOT PUT HUMANS ON THE "ENDANGERED SPECIES" LIST - We are putting ourselves on it.

ANIMALS cannot make lists because they are ANIMALS.  The rest to too silly to address.

5. ANIMALS OFTEN SEEM TO HAVE SPECIAL POWERS THAT HUMANS DON'T HAVE - A 6th sense.

"Special powers"??  It's called survival skills and instinct.  Mankind has these in spades.  Try giving a plot of land to a family of bears sometimes.  Tell them to farm it so other bears can eat.  Go back the next year and check on the progress.  

6. ANIMALS DON'T HUNT AND KILL HUMANS JUST FOR FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT

How do you know?  Some animals are pretty darn aggressive.  The problem is they are ANIMALS.  They cannot reason or evaluate consequences. 

5. FINALLY, ANIMALS ARE LOVING CREATURES WHO HAVE OFTEN RISKED THEIR LIVES TO SAVE HUMANS - Watch hundreds of true stories on Animal Miracles, Miracle Pets. Several times I've seen even pigs rescue humans. It makes me cry.

Yes, the next time I'm in trouble I will call the Jungle Squad to save me.  Hey, how many ANIMALS have you saved? 
Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: Carl on September 15, 2008, 05:18:18 PM
Dummy reality is in all ways derived from a TV show.


Btw....take your average lovable house cat and magically make him/her 10 feet long and 3 feet tall at the shoulder.

You will be on the menu.
Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: LC EFA on September 15, 2008, 05:18:33 PM
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1. ANIMALS ARE NON-MATERIALISTIC - They are not greedy and only take what they need to survive. All my cat needs is food, shelter and affection and he's happy.
2. ANIMALS DO NOT START WARS
3. ANIMALS LIVE IN HARMONY WITH NATURE - They don't destroy the earth. They are not the cause of Global Warming.
4. ANIMALS DO NOT PUT HUMANS ON THE "ENDANGERED SPECIES" LIST - We are putting ourselves on it.

Well DUmmie, Time for you to give up all the man made conveniences you presently exist on and head out to the bush, I'm sure you'll do quite well living like a wild animal.

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5. ANIMALS OFTEN SEEM TO HAVE SPECIAL POWERS THAT HUMANS DON'T HAVE - A 6th sense.

Oh NO.. The magical mystical animal powers..  :rotf:

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6. ANIMALS DON'T HUNT AND KILL HUMANS JUST FOR FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT
5. FINALLY, ANIMALS ARE LOVING CREATURES WHO HAVE OFTEN RISKED THEIR LIVES TO SAVE HUMANS - Watch hundreds of true stories on Animal Miracles, Miracle Pets. Several times I've seen even pigs rescue humans. It makes me cry.

Yeah, go tell that to a crocodile or lion, a king brown or feral pig, and any number of other wild animals. I'll wait. Idiot.

This DUmmie clearly has very little exposure to nature outside a big city.
Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: Zeus on September 15, 2008, 05:21:12 PM
We are, of course, members of the animal kingdom, but also of an entire Linnaean taxonomy that places humans in relation to other creatures. There is as yet no complete agreement on human taxonomy.

Earthworms are kin to lobsters and flatworms are cousins of roundworms. These kinds of relationships have been drawn over the years by zoologists who painstakingly constructed evolutionary trees using animal morphology, or comparisons of form and structure. Morphology was, until recently, the best information available for such classifications. But new molecular evidencegleaned directly from DNA, the master blueprint of lifeis pruning the old evolutionary tree.

"Basically, we're redrawing the tree," says Jennifer Grenier, a Howard Hughes Medical Institute (HHMI) associate at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

Grenier and HHMI investigator Sean Carroll, also at Wisconsin, were part of an international research team that performed the latest tree trimming. Their work substantiates earlier genetic investigations suggesting that the vast majority of animals, from oysters to humans, belong to one of three primary evolutionary lines, rather than the multiple branches suggested by morphological studies. The researchers reported their findings in the June 24, 1999, issue of the journal Nature .

Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: GOBUCKS on September 15, 2008, 05:25:21 PM
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the vast majority of animals, from oysters to humans, belong to one of three primary evolutionary lines
I believe DUmmies belong to the oyster line.
Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: MrsSmith on September 15, 2008, 05:29:41 PM
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hu·mane   /hyuˈmeɪn or, often, yu-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hyoo-meyn or, often, yoo-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective

1. characterized by tenderness, compassion, and sympathy for people and animals, esp. for the suffering or distressed: humane treatment of horses.  
2. of or pertaining to humanistic studies.


humane  

c.1450, variant of human, used interchangeably with it until early 18c., when it began to be a distinct word with sense of "having qualities befitting human beings." But inhuman still can be the opposite of humane.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/humane


You know why "humane" is based on the word "human?"  It's because animals are not able to be humane.  Some of them, if domesticated, may act in a manner that reminds us of humans, but this is certainly not a characteristic of the "strongest survives" animal kingdom.

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Stellabella (119 posts)      Mon Sep-15-08 11:54 AM
Response to Reply #23
50. Animals (non-human) aren't destroying the planet.
 Humans are
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Cow farts...    :tongue:

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pathansen (597 posts)     Mon Sep-15-08 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #10
16. Pigs don't eat humans.  
 Edited on Mon Sep-15-08 10:54 AM by pathansen
Neither do cows.

Superior stupidity there...pigs will most certainly eat humans.    To be fair, reading on, I see a lots of DUers say the same thing.  
Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 15, 2008, 05:32:58 PM
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the vast majority of animals, from oysters to humans, belong to one of three primary evolutionary lines
I believe DUmmies belong to the oyster line.

That's an insult to oysters the world over.  I'd never eat another one--you might just catch something. :evillaugh: :tongue: :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: Chris_ on September 15, 2008, 05:39:29 PM
All the reasons we KNOW the OP does NOT own (well, is staff to) a cat:

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1. ANIMALS ARE NON-MATERIALISTIC - They are not greedy and only take what they need to survive. All my cat needs is food, shelter and affection and he's happy.
Try taking your cat's favorite toy away.

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2. ANIMALS DO NOT START WARS
Try not feeding your cat on HIS/HER timeline.

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3. ANIMALS LIVE IN HARMONY WITH NATURE - They don't destroy the earth. They are not the cause of Global Warming.
Watch a cat go after a butterfly or a mouse (or a hand or a leg)
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4. ANIMALS DO NOT PUT HUMANS ON THE "ENDANGERED SPECIES" LIST - We are putting ourselves on it.
See #2
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5. ANIMALS OFTEN SEEM TO HAVE SPECIAL POWERS THAT HUMANS DON'T HAVE - A 6th sense.
OK, this is true about cats.
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6. ANIMALS DON'T HUNT AND KILL HUMANS JUST FOR FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT
I see you have never come into a room and had your cat decide you are prey to have fun with.
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5. FINALLY, ANIMALS ARE LOVING CREATURES WHO HAVE OFTEN RISKED THEIR LIVES TO SAVE HUMANS
Some are some aren't.
Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: jukin on September 15, 2008, 05:46:59 PM
Short Answer DUmbass?

YES

Because we are at the top of the food chain.

Does it take more than a low two digit IQ to figure that out?
Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: USA4ME on September 15, 2008, 06:28:49 PM
//DUmmie mode on//

Bugs were here long before people and should have the right to all our land. We have been living off our oppression of them for too long and now we must give them their land back. We should all rub ourselves with "reverse insecticide" so they will eat us and get what they rightfully deserve!
 
Long live the purest form of liberalism which recognizes the primacy of bug life. You wouldn't want them in your living room but they are essential to the eco-system. The Bug Liberation Movement will triumph!

//DUmmie mode off//

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Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: djones520 on September 15, 2008, 06:32:33 PM
I have a simple answer to this question.

Tonight, the meat I ate for dinner, I killed myself.

So yes.  I am "superior" to animals.
Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: MrsSmith on September 15, 2008, 06:47:19 PM
//DUmmie mode on//

Bugs were here long before people and should have the right to all our land. We have been living off our oppression of them for too long and now we must give them their land back. We should all rub ourselves with "reverse insecticide" so they will eat us and get what they rightfully deserve!
 
Long live the purest form of liberalism which recognizes the primacy of bug life. You wouldn't want them in your living room but they are essential to the eco-system. The Bug Liberation Movement will triumph!

//DUmmie mode off//

.


I once heard of a business building owned by a PETA whacko that wouldn't allow pesticide use.  Even ants had to be gathered up and taken outside alive to be set free. 

I've always hoped it wasn't true...
Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on September 16, 2008, 05:06:40 PM
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Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Posted by pathansen on Mon Sep-15-08 09:22 AM

Why is it always assumed that we are more highly evolved than animals?
1. ANIMALS ARE NON-MATERIALISTIC - They are not greedy and only take what they need to survive. All my cat needs is food, shelter and affection and he's happy.
2. ANIMALS DO NOT START WARS- Except when you're what it needs to survive
3. ANIMALS LIVE IN HARMONY WITH NATURE - They don't destroy the earth. They are not the cause of Global Warming.Umm, cow farts and methane gas anyone?
4. ANIMALS DO NOT PUT HUMANS ON THE "ENDANGERED SPECIES" LIST - We are putting ourselves on itExcept when a human comes in contact with a wild animal
5. ANIMALS OFTEN SEEM TO HAVE SPECIAL POWERS THAT HUMANS DON'T HAVE - A 6th sense.Or, in the case of moonbats, a lick of sense.
6. ANIMALS DON'T HUNT AND KILL HUMANS JUST FOR FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT
(http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/kitten.jpg)
Meet Fluffy.  Fluffy doesn't like moonbats.

5. FINALLY, ANIMALS ARE LOVING CREATURES WHO HAVE OFTEN RISKED THEIR LIVES TO SAVE HUMANS - Watch hundreds of true stories on Animal Miracles, Miracle Pets. Several times I've seen even pigs rescue humans. It makes me cry.Some animals even know how to count.

Fixed.

Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on September 16, 2008, 05:08:41 PM
1. ANIMALS ARE NON-MATERIALISTIC - They are not greedy and only take what they need to survive. All my cat needs is food, shelter and affection and he's happy.

Animals are extremely selfish and care only about others to the extent it involves them.  They cannot reason, so this behavior is natural.  They are ANIMALS.

2. ANIMALS DO NOT START WARS

Yes, they do.  Have you never watched a National Geographic film?  Some animals are very war-like.  Of course, this behavior stems from the fact they cannot reason to any great extent because they are ANIMALS.

3. ANIMALS LIVE IN HARMONY WITH NATURE - They don't destroy the earth. They are not the cause of Global Warming.

"Nature" dictates to animals, not the other way around, because......they are ANIMALS.  They have no thumbs.  They have no ability to reason.  Animals depend on mankind, who do a darn good job.  Tell your cat to open his own damn can of food sometimes.  Mankind is W-A-Y above the animal kingdom.

4. ANIMALS DO NOT PUT HUMANS ON THE "ENDANGERED SPECIES" LIST - We are putting ourselves on it.

ANIMALS cannot make lists because they are ANIMALS.  The rest to too silly to address.

5. ANIMALS OFTEN SEEM TO HAVE SPECIAL POWERS THAT HUMANS DON'T HAVE - A 6th sense.

"Special powers"??  It's called survival skills and instinct.  Mankind has these in spades.  Try giving a plot of land to a family of bears sometimes.  Tell them to farm it so other bears can eat.  Go back the next year and check on the progress.  

6. ANIMALS DON'T HUNT AND KILL HUMANS JUST FOR FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT

How do you know?  Some animals are pretty darn aggressive.  The problem is they are ANIMALS.  They cannot reason or evaluate consequences. 

5. FINALLY, ANIMALS ARE LOVING CREATURES WHO HAVE OFTEN RISKED THEIR LIVES TO SAVE HUMANS - Watch hundreds of true stories on Animal Miracles, Miracle Pets. Several times I've seen even pigs rescue humans. It makes me cry.

Yes, the next time I'm in trouble I will call the Jungle Squad to save me.  Hey, how many ANIMALS have you saved? 

I so wish you could post this over there.  H-5.
Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: GOBUCKS on September 16, 2008, 05:31:39 PM
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Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?

How do DUmmies's decide whether to add an apostrophe to a plural?

DUmmy pathansen decided to cover all his bases, and spell  it both ways at once.
Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: Vagabond on September 16, 2008, 09:56:28 PM
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Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Posted by pathansen on Mon Sep-15-08 09:22 AM

Why is it always assumed that we are more highly evolved than animals?
1. ANIMALS ARE NON-MATERIALISTIC - They are not greedy and only take what they need to survive. All my cat needs is food, shelter and affection and he's happy.
Really?  How do you know he isn't desperately seeking the next step on Mazlow's scale?  You do realize that if you didn't feed your cat he would spend most of his time hunting small mammals, reptiles, birds, and insects right?

2. ANIMALS DO NOT START WARS
I suppose this would be a bad time to talk about wolves attacking other wolves that stray into their territory.  Or how lions do the same to other lions and hyenas.

3. ANIMALS LIVE IN HARMONY WITH NATURE - They don't destroy the earth. They are not the cause of Global Warming.
Really?  Bummer.  I just read this report from Norway on how Moose farts contribute to global warming.

4. ANIMALS DO NOT PUT HUMANS ON THE "ENDANGERED SPECIES" LIST - We are putting ourselves on it.
99% of all species are now extinct.  Humans were not the cause for the largest portion of these.

5. ANIMALS OFTEN SEEM TO HAVE SPECIAL POWERS THAT HUMANS DON'T HAVE - A 6th sense.
Which animals?  The ones that spend a portion of the day licking their own ass?

6. ANIMALS DON'T HUNT AND KILL HUMANS JUST FOR FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT
Let your fuzzy wuzzy widdle house cat out.  Watch him.  I have never known a cat that won't kill for entertainment.

5. FINALLY, ANIMALS ARE LOVING CREATURES WHO HAVE OFTEN RISKED THEIR LIVES TO SAVE HUMANS - Watch hundreds of true stories on Animal Miracles, Miracle Pets. Several times I've seen even pigs rescue humans. It makes me cry.
But herein lies the problem.  You can't seperate conditioning for cognitive thought.  An animal that has been conditioned that humans are a source of food but not a food source will tend to protect their source.  My dog hangs out under my sons chair at meal time, she doesn't care about him one way or the other, but she has learned that hanging out under his chair gets scraps for her.

I suppose a creature that licks its butt is far superior to you, pathansen.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: Nick Schizen on September 16, 2008, 10:08:41 PM
I was watching a show a while back that ranked animals as to the deadliness and the "house cat" came in at #1.

My cat.........."Schmidty The Kitty" is a very playful aminal who is a house cat.

He spend most of the day sleeping or wanted to be petted so that he can purr and go to sleep, but let one housefly get in at the other end of the house and it walkes him up and he hunts it down until he kills it. Then he eats it.

He hears things that we can't and then he kills them. We had a mouse in the basement which we keep the door always closed, but when the wife opened the door he ran past her and within minutes he dug it out of a box ....... killed it and ate it too.

And this cat has never been outside and I got him when he would fit in a tea cup.

He's a natural born killer and whereas I love him to death I am glad that he won't be getting much bigger! :naughty:
Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: jukin on September 17, 2008, 12:15:46 AM
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He's a natural born killer and whereas I love him to death I am glad that he won't be getting much bigger!

LOL!

When A DUmmy meets nature nature will always win....but thee DUmmy will blame Bush for his demise.
Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: Zeus on September 17, 2008, 01:05:10 AM
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Title: Re: Are Humans's Really "Superior" to Animals?
Post by: Zeus on September 17, 2008, 01:13:24 AM
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