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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: BannedFromDU on May 18, 2025, 12:04:40 PM
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Dennis Donovan (30,965 posts) Sun May 18, 2025, 12:28 PM
NBC news: FBI links California fertility clinic bombing to anti-natalist ideology
NBC news - FBI links California fertility clinic bombing to anti-natalist ideology
The attack left one dead on Saturday and injured four others.
May 18, 2025, 11:29 AM EDT / Updated May 18, 2025, 12:15 PM EDT
By Tom Winter, Jonathan Dienst, Andrew Blankstein and Viola Flowers
The car bombing outside a California fertility clinic that killed one person and injured four others appears to have been driven by anti-natalist ideology, according to two senior law enforcement officials briefed on the incident.
Anti-natalism refers to the belief that no one should have children. Investigators are focusing on social media posts made by the suspect, including a 30-minute audio recording, which they say support anti-natalist views. While the posts and the recording are still being verified, officials believe they reflect the ideology behind the bombing.
The same person may also be linked to an online forum post from earlier this month in which the individual contemplated suicide using an explosive device, the sources said. They are also investigating a YouTube account, under the same moniker, that features videos of experiments with homemade explosives.
The suspect, who has not been identified, was reportedly dealing with depression and had personal relationship issues. Authorities believe the suspect is a 25-year-old man from Twentynine Palms, three law enforcement sources familiar with the investigation told NBC News.
On Saturday, multiple law enforcement tactical officers were seen outside a Twentynine Palms residence, about an hour away from the targeted fertility clinic. The activity there was connected to the Palm Springs investigation, the sources confirmed to NBC News.
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Anti-natalism. Golly, I wonder if there's a website on the internet that regularly, for decades, has howled about overpopulation and the need for fewer people on earth. Anyone have any ideas? (https://democraticunderground.com/100220325206)
Oh, yeah. Democratic Underground. That's the site I'm thinking of, the one that doesn't want anyone reproducing.
So it's left wing terrorism now, and there may have been a Tesla or two there that REALLY set the psycho liberal off.
What say, DUmmies?
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Let me hazard a guess this terrorist has a anti-natalist ideology because of
globull warming globull cooling climate change. ::)
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In my very limited awareness, this sort of view is on the fringe of fringe-Enviros. Somewhere in the range or beyond the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement (yes, that is a real group).
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On an LA station’s FB thread about this there was all kinds of speculation about who to blame. There were a few saying it was Libs, but mostly claims the perp had to be MAGA and/or anti-abortion. Being the jerk I am, I pointed out that neither pro-aborts nor Pro-Life people strongly hate IVF, and we (at the time) knew pretty much nothing of the perp’s views. The Hate-Trumpers and pro-aborts went nuts, and at least a couple went ad hominem.
I enjoyed the schadenfreude of posting the NBC article about the perp’s actual views.
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looks like he performed a 25 year post birth D.I.Y. abortion on himself...
Police are yet to confirm these details. The suspect also recorded a 30-minute audio clip. “I figured I would just make a recording explaining why I’ve decided to bomb an IVF building, or clinic. Basically, it just comes down to I’m angry that I exist and that, you know, nobody got my consent to bring me here,” he said in the recording. He said that he was ‘angry’ about IVF clinics.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/guy-edward-bartkus-palm-springs-bombers-alleged-democrat-links-promortalism-website-surface-101747587966779.html (https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/guy-edward-bartkus-palm-springs-bombers-alleged-democrat-links-promortalism-website-surface-101747587966779.html)
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There is at least one DU thread about this bombing, posted here, https://conservativecave.com/cave/index.php?topic=136481.0 .
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Had no idea that this was a thing but whoever did it was way off the charts nuts.
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Had no idea that this was a thing but whoever did it was way off the charts nuts.
Not any more they aren’t. They are finally one with the bologna mist. :kumbaya:
Fortunately, they weren't able to take anyone else on their trip across the bizzarro world bridge...
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The ****in' balls on these bitches...
Eugene (65,016 posts)
1. I am afraid that the right will run with the anti-natalist lefty/eco-terrorist narrative on this.
W_HAMILTON (8,984 posts)
18. Who gives a **** what the right will run with? They're propagandists -- they blame anything and everything on the left.
I've been a Democrat for decades and I'm on the left end of the Democratic spectrum -- I've never even heard of the damn term "anti-natalist" before. Maybe that's a thing among the Green Party/Horseshoe type of leftists, but it ain't among most sane liberals/progressives.
And now for some good news...
MineralMan (149,046 posts)
12. I have not reproduced during my lifetime.
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MineralMan (149,046 posts)
12. I have not reproduced during my lifetime.
Second best news I have heard this weekend. :yahoo:
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The perp's webpage is linked in this blog post, https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2025/05/17/update-palm-springs-bomber-identified-identifies-as-pro-mortalist-n2189232 , but may be down/removed. When I went there yesterday PM the browser tab was titled "f@#$" prolifers". He also expressed hatred toward those who believe the Bible. All on all, while I would not smear generic pro-abortion people or Libs/Progs with the guy, he DEFINITELY is not MAGA, Evangelical Christian. or Pro-Life, contrary to DU-grade Progs' wishes and fantasies.
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MineralMan (149,046 posts)
12. I have not reproduced during my lifetime.
It's the hole on TOP as she lays on her back, MineralMan. What your Dad showed you only applies to males.
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It's the hole on TOP as she lays on her back, MineralMan. What your Dad showed you only applies to males.
Well looky here, we gots us a biologist. :cheersmate:
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Well looky here, we gots us a biologist. :cheersmate:
I would have said, "It's the hole with hair around it, MineralMan," but then I remembered his wife is a Democrat, too.
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The Palm Springs Bomber Was Anti-Existence
https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2025/05/19/the-palm-springs-bomber-was-anti-existence-n3802917 (https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2025/05/19/the-palm-springs-bomber-was-anti-existence-n3802917)
Why would someone bomb an IVF clinic? In this case there are clear answer to that question. We don't have to guess because the bomber, identified as Guy Edward Bartkus, left behind a website explaining himself.
PRO MORTALIST?! So you're just pro psycho killers?!
No, understand your death is already a guarantee, and you can thank your parents for that one. All a promortalist is saying is let's make it happen sooner rather than later (and preferably peaceful rather than some disease or accident), to prevent your future suffering, and, more importantly, the suffering your existence will cause to all the other sentient beings.
So what is the end goal?
The end goal is for the truth (Efilism) to win, and once it does, we can finally begin the process of sterilizing this planet of the disease of life. Life can only continue as long as people hold the delusional belief that it is not a zero sum game causing senseless torture, and messes it can never, or only partially, clean up. I think we need a war against pro-lifers. It is clear at this point that these people aren't only stupid, they simply do not care about the harm they are perpetuating by being willing agents for a DNA molecule. This should not be seen as tolerable to any intelligent and caring person. Don't be fooled by the ones who play stupid and pretend they don't understand these simple truths. It's just their way of playing with you and saying "**** you, we don't care"
You won't find "Efilism" in W'pedia, but it has some usage. "Efile" is just "Life" backwards (reversed). I guess it could be an application of nihilism, a denial that life has meaning and would best extincted. Hatred for Pro-Life people and for people who believe life has meaning and therefore is precious would flow naturally from from such a view of life.
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Second best news I have heard this weekend. :yahoo:
And the normal people of this world Thank You for not sticking your wang into who knows what.
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More on this:
'The Bomber Had Help': Accomplice Arrested in Palm Springs Bombing
https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2025/06/04/suspected-accomplice-arrested-in-palm-springs-bombing-n3803457 (https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2025/06/04/suspected-accomplice-arrested-in-palm-springs-bombing-n3803457)
Park fled to Poland days after the bombing and was arrested there at the request of US authorities. He spent two weeks in jail there until AG Pam Bondi made a recent trip to Poland.
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So once Park has his court appearance today in New York, he should be heading back to California to face charges for the bombing. Authorities believe he purchased the materials that bomber Guy Bartkus used in the clinic attack. He also apparently helped Bartkus plan the attack.
Park is accused of shipping approximately 180 pounds of ammonium nitrate to the bomber, who was identified by officials as 25-year-old Guy Bartkus, Essayli said. Ammonium nitrate is commonly used as a precursor to construct homemade bombs. The U.S. attorney said Park shares Bartkus' extremist beliefs...
Park paid for an additional 90 pounds of ammonium nitrate that was shipped to Bartkus in the days leading up to the May 17 bombing, Essayli said.
Park spent approximately two weeks visiting Bartkus' residence in Twentynine Palms, California, in late January and early February and ran "experiments" in his garage, Essayli said.
Other than to mock DUmmies' and other Progs' race-obsession it's not a big deal to me, but Park is not white, his ancestry is Korean.