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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on May 05, 2025, 01:31:07 PM
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220292348
LetMyPeopleVote (162,508 posts)
Sun May 4, 2025, 08:40 PM
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The Constitution requires due process and the SCOTUS has unanimously ruled that due process is required
trump is listening to idiots if he thinks that he can ignore due process. trump swore and oath to defend the Constitution and so far the courts are consistent in ruling that the Constitution requires due process
https://bsky.app/profile/krassenstein.bsky.social/post/3lodzj5anmc27
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-asked-uphold-constitution-says-dont-know-rcna204580
The Constitution’s Fifth Amendment says “no person” shall be “deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”; it does not say that person must be a U.S. citizen, and the Supreme Court has long recognized that noncitizens have certain basic rights. Trump has also said that while “we always have to obey the laws,” he would like to see some “homegrown criminals” sent to El Salvador as well, a proposal that was widely panned by legal experts.
When Welker tried to point out what the Fifth Amendment said, Trump suggested that such a process would slow him down too much.
“I don’t know. It seems — it might say that, but if you’re talking about that, then we’d have to have a million or 2 million or 3 million trials,” he said. “We have thousands of people that are — some murderers and some drug dealers and some of the worst people on Earth.”
“I was elected to get them the hell out of here, and the courts are holding me from doing it,” he added.
“But even given those numbers that you’re talking about, don’t you need to uphold the Constitution of the United States as president?” Welker asked.
“I don’t know,” Trump replied. “I have to respond by saying, again, I have brilliant lawyers that work for me, and they are going to obviously follow what the Supreme Court said.”
The Supreme Court has already made it clear to the Trump administration in three different recent decisions that it has to allow basic due process rights for immigrants based on the long-standing understanding of the laws.
That would not require full trials, as Trump suggested. What it would require is the chance to appear before an immigration judge. Such judges are not part of the judicial branch; they are employees of the Justice Department. Administration officials have spoken out against such constraints, leading to allegations that they have defied instructions from lower court judges and even the Supreme Court.
The entire controversy rests on this single sentence. So many lies.
The Trump admin has stated in responses and motions that deportees are going to before the courts or enforcing prior removal orders, given notice in a language they understand, etc. The allegations that they aren't are just that - allegations. No one has brought forth any proof that people are being denied due process as Congress chose to define it for illegals.
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Letmypeoplevoteillegally obviously supports illegal immigration and illegal immigrants, and supports millions coming in illegally over 4 years, while also supporting every means, legitimate or otherwise, of preventing or mitigating their removal in equal numbers during an equivalent period of time.
Democrats and modern leftists support gaming the system to gain political representation and power, that any thinking person would conclude is illegitimate.
And of of course, it cites one of the two idiot krassenstein brothers along with pmsnbc.
:argh:
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Where was this idiot and all the rest when their hero Obama went about deporting people without due process?
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Where was this idiot and all the rest when their hero Obama went about deporting people without due process?
In the peanut gallery, cheering the Mulato Messiah on, of course...
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Where was this idiot and all the rest when their hero Obama went about deporting people without due process?
Same place when OhBummer! was incarcerating kids in kages.
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Didn't Barry have a US citizen killed by a drone?
Why yes,yes he did so where was the lefts outrage?
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Didn't Barry have a US citizen killed by a drone?
Why yes,yes he did so where was the lefts outrage?
You know...there's no federal statute of limitations for murder.
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Didn't Barry have a US citizen killed by a drone?
Why yes,yes he did so where was the lefts outrage?
Barack Obama bombed more nations than George W Bush.
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Where was this idiot and all the rest when their hero Obama went about deporting people without due process?
That's (D)ifferent.