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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: BannedFromDU on March 31, 2025, 10:04:12 AM
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Omaha Steve (104,959 posts) Mon Mar 31, 2025, 07:55 AM
We were just notified of a price increase because of TARIFFS!!! (and climate change)
https://www.peacecoffee.com/
(hippie bullshit redacted)
Isn't it interesting how tariffs immediately and decisively increase the price of everything, but minimum wage laws miraculously don't have the same effect? (https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220192241)
Why is the increase in the price of a physical input more financially impactful than a similar, if not larger, increase in labor costs?
In the actual world, they're the same thing, whether you're an economist or an accountant. In DUmmyland, tariffs are, essentially, a physical phenomenon, like light: the mere mention of them causes prices to increase, structurally, and the is NOTHING that anyone can do to manage it.
I guess we have a new shibboleth for the Left: minimum wage laws don't do shit. Tariffs, even a thousandth of a cent, increase prices immediately and permanently.
**** off, DUmmies.
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From https://intelligence.coffee/2025/03/trumps-trade-wars-bad-news-for-coffee/ , "10% to 15% from Colombia, 10% to 15% from Honduras, Guatemala, and Nicaragua, and up to 45% from Mexico."
Steve's fave "Peace Coffee" doesn't buy from Hawaii, Indonesia, and Southeast Asia? Or does Steve not know they do and is buying a price-gouging smokescreen?
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From https://intelligence.coffee/2025/03/trumps-trade-wars-bad-news-for-coffee/ , "10% to 15% from Colombia, 10% to 15% from Honduras, Guatemala, and Nicaragua, and up to 45% from Mexico."
Steve's fave "Peace Coffee" doesn't buy from Hawaii, Indonesia, and Southeast Asia? Or does Steve not know they do and is buying a price-gouging smokescreen?
I am all for hippies fleecing other hippies, especially when they use Trump as justification.
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They’re blaming some of it on climate change, which is their baby. They support the Green new deal which is another climate change scam. You’re worried about climate change so eat the extra cost and shut up. :thatsright: :loser: :loser: :loser: :loser: :loser: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:
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They’re blaming some of it on climate change, which is their baby. They support the Green new deal which is another climate change scam. You’re worried about climate change so eat the extra cost and shut up. :thatsright: :loser: :loser: :loser: :loser: :loser: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:
If they really believed in climate change, they'd quit drinking coffee altogether. Extracting a bean from a tiny piece of fruit, drying it, shipping it, using energy to roast it, and more energy to brew it? Doesn't sound too "climate sensitive" to me.
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Omaha Steve's Ghost: SOMEBODY PAY FOR MY COFFEEE!!!!!
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Peace Coffee.
It tastes like peace...in your mouth.
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I guess we have a new shibboleth for the Left: minimum wage laws don't do shit. Tariffs, even a thousandth of a cent, increase prices immediately and permanently.
The same thing always mystifies me when you try to explain why you cannot tax a corporation. They have zero understanding of how a corporation simply passes a tax along to the consumer. I've been kicked off lefty boards for telling them you can't tax a corporation.
KC
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Dude! Why didn't you tell us the best part about this Peace Coffee? Keeping it for yourself?
Why didn't you tell us 'Pat' from (was it MAD TV or SNL?) is the Owner/CEO ...
(https://www.bitbean.com/assets/images/blog/lee-wallace-of-peace-coffee/lee-wallace-600.jpeg)
:lmao:
KC
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Nosing around a bit, Peace Coffee apparently has some 65 employees and around $14 million annual revenue. Whether they are profitable, :shrug: . They're part of a collective of roasters that buy beans through collectives of growers, in several Central American countries, Colombia, Ethiopia, and Rwanda. IOW, Peace Coffee has limited influence over the quality of the beans they buy, and much/most of their buying is from countries that are (would be?) affected by Trump's tariffs. Bottom lines, Peace Coffee:
* Is a very small player in a huge marketplace;
* Is selling as premium quality but may not be and over time its quality will vary;
* Buyers are buying Prog-chic image, more so than actual quality.
They might be very decent coffee, but Costco's Kirkland or Lavazza or one of the Rogers family's brands (e.g. SF Bay) whole bean coffees are a better value for persons with ordinary tastes and a coffee grinder. I don't know where Costco's coffee beans are bought, but the Rogers family and Lavazza buy from more regions and countries than Peace Coffee and probably have more control over the quality of the beans they receive, so they may be relatively unaffected by tariffs, price or quality.
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Well it's nice to see that Peace Coffee is at least buying from the peace loving countries of Colombia, Ethiopia, and Rwanda.
::)
KC
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Peace Coffee.
It tastes like peace...in your mouth.
looks like the Ben and Jerry's of coffee
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Dude! Why didn't you tell us the best part about this Peace Coffee? Keeping it for yourself?
Why didn't you tell us 'Pat' from (was it MAD TV or SNL?) is the Owner/CEO ...
(https://www.bitbean.com/assets/images/blog/lee-wallace-of-peace-coffee/lee-wallace-600.jpeg)
:lmao:
KC
It was SNL
she (he?) even has a name like Pat which could go either way...
Named one of Minneapolis/St. Paul Business Journal’s 2022 Most Admired CEOs, Lee Wallace has been leading Peace Coffee since 2006 with a vision for lasting positive impact throughout coffee’s journey from seed to cup! In 2018, Lee officially purchased Peace Coffee and we became an independently-owned company.
https://www.peacecoffee.com/pages/our-story (https://www.peacecoffee.com/pages/our-story)
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Steve claims to be a strong proponent of American unions. So somewhere along the line he must have been introduced to the concept that American union jobs only exist where they are financially competitive. Tariffs exist to prevent cheaper overseas products from undercutting American products. When American products are not being purchased because of cheaper foreign options, those companies cease to exist, and all those good American union jobs go away. It's not a complex concept, but apparently even Jimmy Carter couldn't grasp it when he destroyed the "Rust Belt" industries. So, Steve let me buy you a cup of coffee and give you time to think about those labor issues that you claim to be near and dear to your heart:
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/615KrglD0lL._AC_SL1000_.jpg)
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Another thing is that for a couple of years there has been a shortage of coffee beans and that is just as likely to push the prices up then anything. But hey what do I know.
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Another thing is that for a couple of years there has been a shortage of coffee beans and that is just as likely to push the prices up then anything. ...
I blame hipsters and Starchucks for this.