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Title: Maybe Ann Selzer's poll wasn't wrong.
Post by: CC27 on December 19, 2024, 08:03:48 AM
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Maybe Ann Selzer's poll wasn't wrong.
What if the Iowa poll that had Kamala Harris winning by three points was actually correct.

Maybe a lawsuit could make that a part of the discovery.

Hmmmm.....

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219832068

More stuck on stupid
Title: Re: Maybe Ann Selzer's poll wasn't wrong.
Post by: DefiantSix on December 19, 2024, 08:35:12 AM
More stuck on stupid

Well, when it's the only thing they know...
Title: Re: Maybe Ann Selzer's poll wasn't wrong.
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on December 19, 2024, 09:09:27 AM
That entire thread is hilarious!

Ever since the days of the DUmmy "Truth-Is-All" who relies all his Monte Carlo simulations on polling data rather than actual voting data, the DUmmies cling to whatever poll gets their panties all moist.

Ann Seltzer, the gold standard of polls, should be tarred & feathered and run out of town on a rail. Do we still do that?
Title: Re: Maybe Ann Selzer's poll wasn't wrong.
Post by: FlippyDoo on December 19, 2024, 10:02:04 AM
That entire thread is hilarious!

Ever since the days of the DUmmy "Truth-Is-All" who relies all his Monte Carlo simulations on polling data rather than actual voting data, the DUmmies cling to whatever poll gets their panties all moist.

Ann Seltzer, the gold standard of polls, should be tarred & feathered and run out of town on a rail. Do we still do that?

If you could hook Truth-Is-All up with the DUmmie that does the chicken wire & cinder block experiments, I'm pretty sure they could get to the truth. Then the DUmmie Matlock, LazyMule(or Whatever), could represent them in court.
Title: Re: Maybe Ann Selzer's poll wasn't wrong.
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on December 19, 2024, 11:29:49 AM
If you could hook Truth-Is-All up with the DUmmie that does the chicken wire & cinder block experiments, I'm pretty sure they could get to the truth. Then the DUmmie Matlock, LazyMule(or Whatever), could represent them in court.

I'll toss up a not so crazy comparison based on a recent poll regarding the CEO assassin Luigi Mangione.

UnitedHealthcare CEO murder ‘acceptable’ among 40% of young people
The poll asked 1,000 people if alleged killer's actions were 'acceptable'
41% of people ages 18-29 voted acceptable, while 40% voted unacceptable
UnitedHealthcare CEO was killed Dec. 4

Four in ten young adults find the actions of the UnitedHealthcare CEO’s killer “acceptable,” according to a new Emerson College Polling national survey.

The poll was conducted the week after a man, suspected to be 26-year-old Luigi Mangione, allegedly shot and killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Bryan Thompson over his discontent with the American healthcare system.

The poll asked about 1,000 people, “Do you think the actions of the killer of the UnitedHealthcare CEO are acceptable or unacceptable?”

Will Luigi Mangione face the death penalty?
Respondents aged 18-29 were almost split; 41% of this age group voted acceptable, whereas 40% voted unacceptable.

However, the majority of the larger poll respondent pool (68%) voted that the killer’s actions were “unacceptable.”

From a political lens, more Democrats were OK with the killing with 22% voting acceptable compared to 12% of Republicans.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/unitedhealthcare-ceo-murder-national-poll/

If I were going to extrapolate this poll into the broader spectrum, at least 1 or 2 jurors would logically deem Luigi innocent. But then again, I'm not that stupid or reliant on polls.
Title: Re: Maybe Ann Selzer's poll wasn't wrong.
Post by: Old n Grumpy on December 19, 2024, 11:33:45 AM
Right the election was so close it needs a recount, maybe Trump won all 50 states and 11 million votes that were lost  :thatsright:
Title: Re: Maybe Ann Selzer's poll wasn't wrong.
Post by: SVPete on December 19, 2024, 05:45:10 PM
IIRC, Selzer's poll was off by something like 15% - e.g. Trump won by 12% instead of Kammie winning by 3% (which Selzer claimed). Selzer's liar-lawyer ain't gonna bridge that canyon of a gap with discovery.
Title: Re: Maybe Ann Selzer's poll wasn't wrong.
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on December 19, 2024, 06:55:45 PM
IIRC, Selzer's poll was off by something like 15% - e.g. Trump won by 12% instead Kammie winning by 3%. Selzer's liar-lawyer ain't gonna bridge that canyon of a gap with discovery.

16+ percentage points but I won't pick nits considering I'm not getting paid for this. :-)