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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: BamaMoose on August 31, 2024, 04:04:22 AM
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This particular idiot thinks he's stumbled across some extremely bad news for Trump:
usaf-vet (6,583 posts)
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 10:41 PM
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He may have finally step in it.
From the end of the following post-video.
A FOX NEWS POLL AFTER THE Arlington Insult of the Graves in Section 60
(https://i.postimg.cc/PJQBw5yj/POLL1.png)
https://youtu.be/tIBhcAn5ze8 (https://youtu.be/tIBhcAn5ze8)
The YouTube is by a guy named Glenn Kirschner, who is a frequent MSNBC contributor. In the video, he rehashes everything that has already been reported about Trump's Arlington visit. He also starts the video talking about some earth-shattering news about Trump at the end of the video. The "news" is the poll above. Now it appears that Kirshner isn't a complete idiot. He's a lawyer, served as an Army JAG and then spent 20+ years in the U.S. Attorney Office. And yet his hatred of Trump is so profound that he can't utilize any of those brain cells to consider whether those poll numbers make any sense. They don't and even other DUmmies try to point this out.
First response to the OP:
Phoenix61 (17,309 posts)
1. This is false. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/08/30/fox-news-poll-about-harris-trump-fabricated-fact
captain queeg (11,314 posts)
5. Like literally everything that comes of face-anus? I wouldn't mind some phony news about him making the rounds.
80% of the "news" about Trump that makes the rounds is phony. Without quotes taken out of context and totally fabricated "facts" CNN and MSNBC wouldn't be able to spend more than 10 or 15 minutes a day on Trump.
iemanja (53,832 posts)
14. It's those spreading the news that look bad
because you have to be seriously gullible to fall for that one.
A gullible hate-filled DUmmy? Never seen that before.
usaf-vet (6,583 posts)
6. This is what is returned from the link below. Try it on your own .
Copy it from the original post above and try it. You can also review the link below, which I copied and pasted. CHECK IT for yourself.
Followed by a 404 error because the link in the first response is incomplete. However, the correct link is posted, and the OP still won't recognize how stupid one has to be to believe that poll he posted.
usaf-vet (6,583 posts)
8. This link takes you to a blocked website unless you have a membership. Or if you are using an ad blocker.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/08/30/fox-news-poll-about-harris-trump-fabricated-fact-check/75014490007 (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/08/30/fox-news-poll-about-harris-trump-fabricated-fact-check/75014490007)/
LudwigPastorius (10,162 posts)
9. Hunh....
I have neither, and it renders fine for me.
Yep, the link works fine. And according to USAToday the poll is totally fake. But the OP refuses to let it go.
iemanja (53,832 posts)
12. You would think that would be obvious
There is no world in word in which that scenario would be true. It's hard to fathom who could actually fall for that.
Carlitos Brigante (26,686 posts)
4. Those numbers don't seem real, no matter how badly people want them to be. nt
CanonRay (14,632 posts)
11. Those Fox News poll numbers are phony
iemanja (53,832 posts)
15. I'd self delete, if I were you
think about it for a minute, would you? Does that graphic really compute? You can't possibly believe everything you see online.
iemanja (53,832 posts)
17. It's OBVIOUSLY false
Use your head. Think about it. Besides everyone in this thread telling you it's false, they've pointed to fact checking sites proving it's false. Do you really want to look that gullible? 9%? In what universe does Trump only get 9% of the veteran's vote? 1% of wounded vets? Who took that poll? It doesn't even cite a source. That kind of polarization is not going to happen. The only demographic he'll pull that low at is African American's, and even then he'll get more than 1 percent. THINK.
Skittles (156,475 posts)
19. sorry, those numbers are ridiculous
seriously
No one would believe that poll, except for someone on MSNBC who's trying to manufacture some fake news about Trump.
usaf-vet (6,583 posts)
16. I trust the original source video. If it turns up to be false Glen K. will tell us.
Or the monitors from DU might find a reason to reasonably judge it false.
But we all know there are naysers in our world.
As a veteran with family members buried in National Veterans Cemetery the orange former president is known for his lies and threatening anyone who calls him out.
I have to go with the folks that believe he is lying and believe his blind cultist don't know any better.
And after everyone tells him it's fake, he doubles down and won't believe that the graphic is obviously wrong. But we're the "blind cultists".
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219403836 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219403836)
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I find it hard to believe that people can be so consumed with hate for someone they don’t know and never met that they would spend their time doing something like this. Specially when their candidate is so bad.
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Phoenix61 (17,309 posts)
1. This is false. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/08/30/fox-news-poll-about-harris-trump-fabricated-fact
When USA Today debunks and DU-folk mock the Hate-Trump meme you want to be true ...
iemanja (53,832 posts)
14. It's those spreading the news that look bad
because you have to be seriously gullible to fall for that one.
I wish this kind of confirmation-bias credulity were unique to Libs and Progs.
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The usaf-vet primitive is the model Democrat the party wants all their members to be.
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It's not surprising. The entire Democrat Party (including their MSM minions) is built on lies. Joe Biden is a moderate and sharp as a tack. Once that deception was revealed to be a lie they switched to...Kamala is a moderate and sharp as a tack. They're liars who are hungry for power. DUers are liars who are eager to do as their masters command them.
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It's not surprising. The entire Democrat Party (including their MSM minions) is built on lies. Joe Biden is a moderate and sharp as a tack. Once that deception was revealed to be a lie they switched to...Kamala is a moderate and sharp as a tack. They're liars who are hungry for power. DUers are liars who are eager to do as their masters command them.
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I suppose true. Even more so when they want to believe it. It's almost kind of cult like which reminds me of a discussion my wife and I had 30 or so years ago. She was saying that she couldn't understand how people could get caught up in a cult. I told her that to me it seemed to work this way... First, you tell them something that they know is true like "this world is a huge sphere circling the sun". Then tell them something that they WANT to believe is true like "you are the most special ones to populate this world". Finally, after they are hooked, you tell them the lie that YOU want them to believe is true like "although you are blindly following an unqualified individual selected by a small number of millionaires/billionaires you are not a cult, but Trump followers are a cult and the country is doomed if he's elected".
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I suppose true. Even more so when they want to believe it. It's almost kind of cult like which reminds me of a discussion my wife and I had 30 or so years ago. She was saying that she couldn't understand how people could get caught up in a cult. I told her that to me it seemed to work this way... First, you tell them something that they know is true like "this world is a huge sphere circling the sun". Then tell them something that they WANT to believe is true like "you are the most special ones to populate this world". Finally, after they are hooked, you tell them the lie that YOU want them to believe is true like "although you are blindly following an unqualified individual selected by a small number of millionaires/billionaires you are not a cult, but Trump followers are a cult and the country is doomed if he's elected".
Going off on a tangent about cults, ran across this story this week about the cult known as Scientology:
John Stamos got kicked out of Scientology for goofing around
John Stamos is getting candid about his Church of Scientology exit.
During an interview on the "Friend in High Places" podcast with comedian Matt Friend published Sunday, the musician told the host about how he was introduced to the controversial faith.
"I was in an acting class and there was this hot girl," Stamos recalled. "She said, 'You know, we're all meeting at this address on Hollywood Boulevard, come after (class)!' I was working at my dad's restaurant at the time, and I said, 'Dad I gotta, I gotta go.' So I went, and it was the Scientology building. I was 16, 17."
But he added that he was also inspired to go to the Scientology meeting by his idol, John Travolta.
"I wanted to be John Travolta, I still do," he said of the "Grease" actor, who joined the Church of Scientology in the 1970s. But Stamos never officially joined the church after a sticky situation kept him from pursuing the faith.
Stamos recalled entering the Scientology building and being summoned to a machine called the "E-Meter," which was formed from two cans. After having a fake phone conversation pretending to be "Rocky and Bullwinkle" characters Peabody and Sherman, Stamos said, "They just kicked me out" for messing around "so much."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2024/08/30/john-stamos-scientology-kicked-me-out/75012333007/
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Going off on a tangent about cults, ran across this story this week about the cult known as Scientology:
John Stamos got kicked out of Scientology for goofing around
John Stamos is getting candid about his Church of Scientology exit.
During an interview on the "Friend in High Places" podcast with comedian Matt Friend published Sunday, the musician told the host about how he was introduced to the controversial faith.
"I was in an acting class and there was this hot girl," Stamos recalled. "She said, 'You know, we're all meeting at this address on Hollywood Boulevard, come after (class)!' I was working at my dad's restaurant at the time, and I said, 'Dad I gotta, I gotta go.' So I went, and it was the Scientology building. I was 16, 17."
But he added that he was also inspired to go to the Scientology meeting by his idol, John Travolta.
"I wanted to be John Travolta, I still do," he said of the "Grease" actor, who joined the Church of Scientology in the 1970s. But Stamos never officially joined the church after a sticky situation kept him from pursuing the faith.
Stamos recalled entering the Scientology building and being summoned to a machine called the "E-Meter," which was formed from two cans. After having a fake phone conversation pretending to be "Rocky and Bullwinkle" characters Peabody and Sherman, Stamos said, "They just kicked me out" for messing around "so much."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2024/08/30/john-stamos-scientology-kicked-me-out/75012333007/
Interesting. I didn't know that about Stamos. I would have probably gotten kicked out too. lol.
Scientology has always intrigued me. A science-fiction writer comes up with a science-fiction religion that sounds exactly like something that was made up by a science-fiction writer and gets much wealthier from his "religion" than he ever did from his other science-fiction writings. From what I've read about the Scientology organization, it seems to operate much like DU. You're expected to be in lock-step and, if there's any aspect of it that you don't agree with, you're suppose to act like you do or else.
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Interesting. I didn't know that about Stamos. I would have probably gotten kicked out too. lol.
Scientology has always intrigued me. A science-fiction writer comes up with a science-fiction religion that sounds exactly like something that was made up by a science-fiction writer and gets much wealthier from his "religion" than he ever did from his other science-fiction writings. From what I've read about the Scientology organization, it seems to operate much like DU. You're expected to be in lock-step and, if there's any aspect of it that you don't agree with, you're suppose to act like you do or else.
Yeah, I've long been intrigued as well with that "religion" just for my own curiosity. The Scientologists are extremely litigious folks because of all the money they've conned their followers to donating the "the church". It is incredibly difficult to find reliable news stories about them because they are master manipulators at controlling information. As you said, much like the Democrat party/mainstream media.
There has been a long-running tale that L. Ron Hubbard wrote "Dianetics" and created Scientology on a dare from another sci-fi writer. Cannot vouch for the validity of that but it seems plausible.
In the late 2010's, actress and former scientologist Leah Remini did a series on the A&E Network exposing how the cult and "church" operated. It was incredibly intriguing and well worth one's time if it is available to stream or watch anymore. She was tossed into the group by her Mom and had a really challenging time trying to cut ties with all the B.S. associated with them.
A couple of links:
IMDB Link - Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6244192/?ref_=nm_knf_t_2)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leah_Remini:_Scientology_and_the_Aftermath