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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on July 14, 2024, 03:33:59 PM
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EarlG
I wish I lived in a world where I could be shocked by yesterday's events
Unfortunately a couple of decades of regular mass shootings has left me almost entirely numb to this sort of thing.
Thoughts and prayers
It's too early to talk about what happened...
...and now it's time to move on
I mean, we "have to get over it, we have to move forward" is literally a direct quote from Donald Trump, 36 hours after a school shooting in Iowa that left one 6th grader dead and seven wounded.
I see the Biden campaign has reached out to Trump, and that they have suspended their advertising. That's normal and appreciated.
But on the other side, I note that within an hour or two of the shooting, high-profile Republicans rushed to publicly blame Joe Biden. The Trump campaign has not stopped their advertising. And I'm sure it won't be long before they start fundraising off of this.
Republicans have built a world where easy access to firearms means this sort of thing happens to normal Americans on a daily basis. And Donald Trump specifically has built a world where violent political rhetoric has become the norm. There are dozens and dozens of examples of Trump either dog-whistling or openly advocating for the use of violence in the political sphere. This is a guy who unrepentantly started a violent insurrection when he lost an election, which caused the deaths of several people. He now calls the insurrectionists martyrs, and has promised to pardon them.
At no time has Joe Biden said anything that would prompt yesterday's shooting. At no time has he ever called for violence -- in fact he has decried it at every possible opportunity. At every step along the way, he has called for -- and tried to pass -- stronger gun control laws, and get deadly weapons out of the hands of lunatics.
And at almost every step of the way he has been thwarted by Republicans who want to make it easier for people to get hold of guns and carry them around in public places. We are living in a world which Donald Trump and the Republican party have built, which means we have to put up with this toxic brew of basically unrestricted gun ownership plus constant violent rhetoric from leaders on the right. And as soon as there IS a mass shooting, we have to put up with a torrent of bullshit from the right, where they drag out the same tired talking points and blame US for the vile culture that THEY have created.
Donald Trump just got a taste of what more than 1,200 Americans have been through this year alone. Minding their own business at a public event, or at home, or at the grocery store, when some asshole with a gun starts blasting. And at that point, it's just pure luck whether you live or die.
So pardon me if I can't muster up much emotion over this. There was a mass shooting at a public event yesterday. But there will be one today, and there will be another one tomorrow. And despite the fact that they somehow want to blame the left for it, it is the Republican party, from the Supreme Court, to GOP leadership, to the Republican rank and file, which has fought tooth and nail to make sure things like this happen, and keep happening, day after day in America.
And now they're going to proudly wave around a photo of Trump with a bloody ear, pumping his fist in front of an American flag, celebrating the fact that he got shot as if it's something we should all be proud of, like some kind of sick badge of honor.
I think the fact that I am not shocked by any of this is what's most shocking to me.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219152775
Blah blah blah ahole
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What a fracking tool EarlG is.
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The primitives are really playing up this "mass shooting" angle. I don't think that it would qualify as a mass shooting. It most certainly was just targeting President Trump specifically. The other people hit were collateral damage. The mass shooting talk is just your typical leftist gun grabber tragedy exploitation.
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Literally go **** yourself, EarlG.
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Been a while but is Earl the one with the rotting gaped tooth smile?
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EarlG
At no time has Joe Biden said anything that would prompt yesterday's shooting.
Has he ever said that Trump being elected would be a danger to democracy? If so, that’s exactly the type of violent rhetoric that triggered Thomas Crooks to carry out his assassination attempt. So don’t lie about that, Lord Marblehead. You’ll get called out for it.
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EarlG
At no time has Joe Biden said anything that would prompt yesterday's shooting. At no time has he ever called for violence -- in fact he has decried it at every possible opportunity.
In the real world, from Biden insists he's the best bet for beating Trump as allies weigh in (https://www.scrippsnews.com/politics/america-votes/biden-insists-hes-the-best-bet-for-beating-trump-as-allies-weigh-in) before it gets scrubbed:
A memo the campaign sent to Hill offices obtained by Scripps News highlights President Biden’s energetic campaign rallies, swing state polling and grassroots support.
The president joined a call with the Biden Victory Fund National Finance Committee, where the campaign says he told supporters, “It’s time to put Trump in the bullseye,” framing his strategy for the next debate as “Attack. Attack. Attack. Attack.”
Later Monday evening, President Biden met virtually with the Congressional Black Caucus — whose members, by and large, have been vocal in maintaining their support for the president.
I included the paragraphs before and after the pertinent Biden words just to show I did not wrench Biden's words out of context to distort their meaning (the way Progs do, systematically, with Trump).
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Blah blah blah ahole
Proving to the world that you most certainly don't have to be intelligent to run a hate website
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That an assassination was attempted did not surprise me:
https://x.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1812256646153822590
That Progs' responses have been to claim it was fake, to blame Trump, and to say Trump deserved it appalls me and does surprise me a little. Maybe I hang out where I'm less likely to see/hear them, but voices of decency from among Libs and Progs seem missing.
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The primitives are really playing up this "mass shooting" angle. I don't think that it would qualify as a mass shooting. It most certainly was just targeting President Trump specifically. The other people hit were collateral damage. The mass shooting talk is just your typical leftist gun grabber tragedy exploitation.
The gun grabber official definition of a "mass shooting" is four or more people shot. Here we've got Trump, the deceased fire chief and the two others who were hit so it does meet that definition.
But yeah, it's really an assassination attempt.
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Donald Trump just got a taste of what more than 1,200 Americans have been through this year alone. Minding their own business at a public event, or at home, or at the grocery store, when some asshole with a gun starts blasting. And at that point, it's just pure luck whether you live or die.
Many of them could have been stopped if the liberal prosecutors were to prosecute the perpetrators, but because most are black they consider it racism to punish them. :rant: :rant: :rant:
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President Trump to attend funeral of Corey Comperatore.
Guaranteed one thing President Trump will not be doing is checking his watch every few minutes hoping to get this over with and start the weekend early.
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President Trump to attend funeral of Corey Comperatore.
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Do you have a news source for this? It would be useful to me in a response to a FB Friend, :evil: .
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EarlG
I wish I lived in a world where I could be shocked by yesterday's events
Compromise: you live in a world where you can **** off. Give it a try.
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Do you have a news source for this? It would be useful to me in a response to a FB Friend, :evil: .
Sure friend. His son Eric I believe also said it on TV.
Here in this X post link below.
President Trump also started a gofundme which has > 4million for the fallen firefighter.
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1812830428522574244?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1812830428522574244%7Ctwgr%5E5afa6e712b963d5b9e59c28e2531893a60df4aea%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tigerdroppings.com%2Frant%2Fdisplay.aspx%3Fsp%3D114136221s%3D1p%3D114135770
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Do you have a news source for this? It would be useful to me in a response to a FB Friend, :evil: .
There is also this gem.
BREAKING: Firefighter's widow, who lost her husband in the Pennsylvania rally, refused the president’s call, saying she “didn’t want to talk to him.”
I suspect Brandon did not want to pass up a chance to tell her how he almost lost his Corvette and cat in a kitchen fire or something so he can relate to what she is going through.
https://x.com/LeadingReport/status/1812981997142483025?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1812981997142483025%7Ctwgr%5Ea15fa8b1a18ed062eee875a0421276a090ae4a08%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tigerdroppings.com%2Frant%2Fpolitics%2Fcorey-comperatores-widow-refused-to-answer-bidens-phone-call%2F114133011%2F
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I suspect Brandon did not want to pass up a chance to tell her how he almost lost his Corvette and cat in a kitchen fire or something so he can relate to what she is going through.
don't be so insensitive.
Joe wanted to let them know that he can relate. after all, he once had an uncle eaten by cannibals.
that aside, Joe has been calling this woman and her husband "MAGA extremists" and "fascists" for quite some time. I would have taken the call for the sole purpose of letting him know who I blamed for this unspeakable tragedy.
FJB
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I've already pointed out to the FB Friend both that the widow had refused to speak with Biden and that Trump had organized the GoFundMe for her family and the families of the wounded. $4M is a lot of people, many of them MAGApublicans, putting their $$ into their rejection of the assassination (I assume there are Dems among the donors, as many Dems are not DU- and MSNBC-grade crazies).
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don't be so insensitive.
Joe wanted to let them know that he can relate. after all, he once had an uncle eaten by cannibals.
that aside, Joe has been calling this woman and her husband "MAGA extremists" and "fascists" for quite some time. I would have taken the call for the sole purpose of letting him know who I blamed for this unspeakable tragedy.
FJB
You know Beau was killed at a rally, no joke.
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I wish i lived in a world where mentally ill morons like malaise were put in insane asylums where they belong, and kept there.
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Wow! what a week and it just keeps getting better.
https://nypost.com/2024/07/16/us-news/chuck-schumer-calls-on-bob-menendez-to-resign-after-bribery-conviction/? (https://nypost.com/2024/07/16/us-news/chuck-schumer-calls-on-bob-menendez-to-resign-after-bribery-conviction/?)
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Dearest SquirrelG DUmp master doofus:
It isn't the guns, it is the people. And most of the people who commit murders are Democrats. It is a statistical fact.
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I've already pointed out to the FB Friend both that the widow had refused to speak with Biden and that Trump had organized the GoFundMe for her family and the families of the wounded. $4M is a lot of people, many of them MAGApublicans, putting their $$ into their rejection of the assassination (I assume there are Dems among the donors, as many Dems are not DU- and MSNBC-grade crazies).
Your FB friend may not like the news source I linked above with regards to President Trump attending the funeral as the NY Post is not on the approved short list.
Not sure I will be able to find it on MSDNC or CNN.
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I wish i lived in a world where mentally ill morons like malaise were put in insane asylums where they belong, and kept there.
She does, it’s called Jamaica.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/86/41/1c/86411c8b6408352d3bc07167775b0417--kingston-jamaica-sad.jpg)
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Dearest SquirrelG DUmp master doofus:
It isn't the guns, it is the people. And most of the people who commit murders are Democrats. It is a statistical fact.
If guns were the problem, then people like me that went to sniper school when I was in the 101st and the head instructor was a two tour Special Forces veteran in Vietnam would be the last ones to be allowed to own a gun. I mean they can't have us running loose on polite society can they? Something dreadful might happen. The horror of it all allowing some guy who is probably more stable than that kid that tried to kill the former President would ever be. Talk about the Twilight Zone