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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ralph Wiggum on November 24, 2023, 08:20:03 AM
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Yep, the king of the question mark:
kentuck (110,637 posts)
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 08:03 AM
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If Trump were to win election, would you accept him as a legitimate President?
Would you accept as your President a criminal defendant with 91 charges against him? Sooner or later, he must stop saying he is the "victim".
Would you accept someone who stole military secrets and incited insurrection against our country? And has spoken out against the Constitution which defines our very being as a nation.
Do you think that guy would be a legitimate president?
I think the Republican Party needs to get its shit together. The people are not going to accept this criminal wannabe autocrat. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it?
Personally, I could not accept him as the Leader of our Country. That is just one opinion.
If he were to win, it would be a most divisive and angry victory.
How that would manifest itself, I do not know.
The litany of responses is overwhelmingly no, but I especially found this exchange between KenTuck and the dazzling young Brooklynite interesting:
Bettie (15,556 posts)
3. I don't know
Reply to kentuck (Original post)
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 08:07 AM
that I could. I can not envision him winning legitimately. I really can't.
brooklynite (91,540 posts)
4. Apparently we have different definitions of "legitimate"
Reply to kentuck (Original post)
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 08:15 AM
If he meets the eligibility requirements and is elected within the format of our Constitutional system he's a legitimate President. What I think about him personally is irrelevant.
kentuck (110,637 posts)
6. Irrelevant to you. But not irrelevant to many others.
Reply to brooklynite (Reply #4)
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 08:17 AM
Would be my guess.
brooklynite (91,540 posts)
7. How others think is also irrelevant.
Reply to kentuck (Reply #6)
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 08:20 AM
As President he can appoint officials, nominate Judges and implement national policies that you'll have to live with, whether you recognize his authority or not.
kentuck (110,637 posts)
8. And that is OK with you?
Reply to brooklynite (Reply #7)
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 08:24 AM
What kind of country would we be defending?
Que Sera, Sera?
brooklynite (91,540 posts)
9. Whether its "OK" or not is equally irrelevant.
Reply to kentuck (Reply #8)
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 08:26 AM
It is.
I deal with reality, not hopes and dreams.
kentuck (110,637 posts)
10. Like I said...
Reply to brooklynite (Reply #9)
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 08:28 AM
That is one opinion. I suppose the same would apply to you?
brooklynite (91,540 posts)
11. It is an opinion and I chose to express another.
Reply to kentuck (Reply #10)
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 08:31 AM
If the point was to have everyone agree that we hate Trump, that should have been clearer.
kentuck (110,637 posts)
19. The point is that it could be a divisive and potentially violent election.
Reply to brooklynite (Reply #11)
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 08:54 AM
And people will take sides, be it wise or not.
In my opinion, some will not be agreeable to accepting whatever happens as "legitimate". I personally could not accept Trump as "my president". And whether he wins by hook or crook, is irrelevant to me. I am almost certain the other side feels the same way about Joe Biden.
As an added point, when did it become acceptable to threaten prosecutors and officers of the court and anyone except witnesses in a possible trial?
It seems to me it should be illegal to threaten anybody?
Should the 14th Amendment be taken literally?
It's almost as if the Justice System itself is on trial?
PJMcK (21,168 posts)
20. I'm with brooklynite on this
Reply to kentuck (Reply #19)
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 09:03 AM
Whether or not I personally accept Trump as a legitimate president is irrelevant. Consider the dead-enders who don’t “accept” President Biden’s legitimacy. They have next to no influence in the policies and actions taken by the President.
Were Trump re-elected— an unthinkable tragedy!— he would hold the office and I assure you, he won’t give a damn what anyone else thinks. His “legitimacy” would be the least of our concerns.
If that calamity occurs, we’ll probably move overseas.
onenote (41,492 posts)
15. Constitutionally, he would be the "legitimate" president.
Reply to kentuck (Original post)
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 08:38 AM
Do those that say they won't accept him as a "legitimate president" intend to file lawsuits challenging his election? File lawsuits challenging every action he takes? Refuse to obey any law he signs, orders issued by judges or agencies he appoints?
Not sure I understand the point of the question.
Charging Triceratops (46 posts)
18. NO!
Reply to kentuck (Original post)
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 08:48 AM
The ONLY way he has a chance of winning is through the asinine Electoral College system, which is a total fraud.
LymphocyteLover (5,229 posts)
23. if he won a resounding victory including the popular vote
Reply to kentuck (Original post)
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 09:13 AM
but that's not going to happen. It just won't
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218477686
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Fri Nov 24, 2023, 08:38 AM
Do those that say they won't accept him as a "legitimate president" intend to file lawsuits challenging his election? File lawsuits challenging every action he takes? Refuse to obey any law he signs, orders issued by judges or agencies he appoints?
That’s what the dummy rats did to him the first time.
19. The point is that it could be a divisive and potentially violent election.
Only if your side makes it so. :loser:
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The DUchebag DUmmys must be getting frightened that a good economy, 2% inflation, no wars, and less government interference might be coming back.
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brooklynite (91,540 posts)
9. Whether its "OK" or not is equally irrelevant.
Reply to kentuck (Reply #8)
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 08:26 AM
It is.
I deal with reality, not hopes and dreams.
Oh, Brooklynite, I can't imagine how you manage to continue evading the MIRT Thought Police with WrongThink like that rattling around in your noggin... :cheersmate:
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Demsrule86 (67,491 posts)
31. He won't win but no. He is an insurrectionists and plans to kill his enemies IHMO.
He will kill his enemies? :ohnoes:
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It's almost as if the Justice System itself is on trial?
The justice system is on trial, just not in the way democrats think it is.