I can't believe he said that. Wadda dumbass. He is sure to win friends and influence people with remarks like that.
KC
I can't believe he said that. Wadda dumbass. He is sure to win friends and influence people with remarks like that.
KC
:agree:
He needs to stick with the pre-written speeches on the teleprompter.
I can't believe he said that. Wadda dumbass. He is sure to win friends and influence people with remarks like that.
KC
:agree:
He needs to stick with the pre-written speeches on the teleprompter.
I don't really thing that was an adlib.
Linguistically it's kind of a clever twist on her 'Hockey mom' gambit, the problem for Obama is that in actual practice it will probably really piss off most women who hear it, and make most men think that Obama needs a white cane and a guide dog.
Linguistically it's kind of a clever twist on her 'Hockey mom' gambit, the problem for Obama is that in actual practice it will probably really piss off most women who hear it, and make most men think that Obama needs a white cane and a guide dog.
See, the thing is, that a woman can get away with such a comment. Most men can't. Because it comes off as highly sexist when a man says things like that. But when a woman says it, a lot of soccer moms relate to it.
He just pissed off a lot of soccer moms I think.
Linguistically it's kind of a clever twist on her 'Hockey mom' gambit, the problem for Obama is that in actual practice it will probably really piss off most women who hear it, and make most men think that Obama needs a white cane and a guide dog.
See, the thing is, that a woman can get away with such a comment. Most men can't. Because it comes off as highly sexist when a man says things like that. But when a woman says it, a lot of soccer moms relate to it.
He just pissed off a lot of soccer moms I think.
After reading this thread a little while ago...I told the other half about it.
His comment....."oh, he shouldn't have said that.....that was just dumb"........can't do the voice inflection here...but it was funny the way he said it.
Also said it was really going to piss off a whooooollllllle lot of women.
Is it jsut me; or has Obama stopped running against McCain and has instead started trying to run against Palin?
It was an incredibly stupid metaphor to use but I don't think Obama intended to call Palin a pig.
It's a common phrase. This reminds me of something that happened on NU. A ROC poster through out the question "Have you stopped beating your wife lately?" after an LOC asked a loaded question. The LOC poster went ballistic saying "HOW DARE YOU BRING MY FAMILY INTO THIS???!!!!!!". There was a callout in the Fight Club. It was crazy.
The thing that bothers me about this strategy is that, it is started to sound like "hands off the girl". It's like the right taking a page out of the lefty book, let's look for offense anywhere we find it.
There is a lot for the McCain/Palin campaign to be upset about, with regard to the crap about Palin's family and even going over all the expense records with a fine tooth comb, but this phrase is not really one of them.
Now I'll argue out of the other side of my mouth.. :-)
Apparently with FOX and others picking up on this, it could be a strategy that works. Because it is a play straight out of the lefty play book, it's hard for them fight against it.
It was an incredibly stupid metaphor to use but I don't think Obama intended to call Palin a pig.
It's a common phrase. This reminds me of something that happened on NU. A ROC poster threw out the question "Have you stopped beating your wife lately?" after an LOC asked a loaded question. The LOC poster went ballistic saying "HOW DARE YOU BRING MY FAMILY INTO THIS???!!!!!!". There was a callout in the Fight Club. It was crazy.
The thing that bothers me about this strategy is that, it is starting to sound like "hands off the girl". It's like the right taking a page out of the lefty book, let's look for offense anywhere we find it.
There is a lot for the McCain/Palin campaign to be upset about, with regard to the crap about Palin's family and even going over all the expense records with a fine tooth comb, but this phrase is not really one of them.
Now I'll argue out of the other side of my mouth.. :-)
Apparently with FOX and others picking up on this, it could be a strategy that works. Because it is a play straight out of the lefty play book, it's hard for them fight against it.
It was an incredibly stupid metaphor to use but I don't think Obama intended to call Palin a pig.
It's a common phrase. This reminds me of something that happened on NU. A ROC poster threw out the question "Have you stopped beating your wife lately?" after an LOC asked a loaded question. The LOC poster went ballistic saying "HOW DARE YOU BRING MY FAMILY INTO THIS???!!!!!!". There was a callout in the Fight Club. It was crazy.
The thing that bothers me about this strategy is that, it is starting to sound like "hands off the girl". It's like the right taking a page out of the lefty book, let's look for offense anywhere we find it.
There is a lot for the McCain/Palin campaign to be upset about, with regard to the crap about Palin's family and even going over all the expense records with a fine tooth comb, but this phrase is not really one of them.
Now I'll argue out of the other side of my mouth.. :-)
Apparently with FOX and others picking up on this, it could be a strategy that works. Because it is a play straight out of the lefty play book, it's hard for them fight against it.
Hmmmmm I don't know about the 'old' saying. As it was handed down where I grew up it was "You can put a dress on a pig but it is still a pig".
With 'O' using the word lipstick it seemed more like a jab to me. Maybe it is more a regional thing and how you were raised with the saying.
KC
It was an incredibly stupid metaphor to use but I don't think Obama intended to call Palin a pig.
It's a common phrase. This reminds me of something that happened on NU. A ROC poster threw out the question "Have you stopped beating your wife lately?" after an LOC asked a loaded question. The LOC poster went ballistic saying "HOW DARE YOU BRING MY FAMILY INTO THIS???!!!!!!". There was a callout in the Fight Club. It was crazy.
The thing that bothers me about this strategy is that, it is starting to sound like "hands off the girl". It's like the right taking a page out of the lefty book, let's look for offense anywhere we find it.
There is a lot for the McCain/Palin campaign to be upset about, with regard to the crap about Palin's family and even going over all the expense records with a fine tooth comb, but this phrase is not really one of them.
Now I'll argue out of the other side of my mouth.. :-)
Apparently with FOX and others picking up on this, it could be a strategy that works. Because it is a play straight out of the lefty play book, it's hard for them fight against it.
Hmmmmm I don't know about the 'old' saying. As it was handed down where I grew up it was "You can put a dress on a pig but it is still a pig".
With 'O' using the word lipstick it seemed more like a jab to me. Maybe it is more a regional thing and how you were raised with the saying.
KC
I've always heard it with lipstick, not dress. *shrug*
It was an incredibly stupid metaphor to use but I don't think Obama intended to call Palin a pig.
It's a common phrase. This reminds me of something that happened on NU. A ROC poster threw out the question "Have you stopped beating your wife lately?" after an LOC asked a loaded question. The LOC poster went ballistic saying "HOW DARE YOU BRING MY FAMILY INTO THIS???!!!!!!". There was a callout in the Fight Club. It was crazy.
The thing that bothers me about this strategy is that, it is starting to sound like "hands off the girl". It's like the right taking a page out of the lefty book, let's look for offense anywhere we find it.
There is a lot for the McCain/Palin campaign to be upset about, with regard to the crap about Palin's family and even going over all the expense records with a fine tooth comb, but this phrase is not really one of them.
Now I'll argue out of the other side of my mouth.. :-)
Apparently with FOX and others picking up on this, it could be a strategy that works. Because it is a play straight out of the lefty play book, it's hard for them fight against it.
It was an incredibly stupid metaphor to use but I don't think Obama intended to call Palin a pig.
It's a common phrase. This reminds me of something that happened on NU. A ROC poster threw out the question "Have you stopped beating your wife lately?" after an LOC asked a loaded question. The LOC poster went ballistic saying "HOW DARE YOU BRING MY FAMILY INTO THIS???!!!!!!". There was a callout in the Fight Club. It was crazy.
The thing that bothers me about this strategy is that, it is starting to sound like "hands off the girl". It's like the right taking a page out of the lefty book, let's look for offense anywhere we find it.
There is a lot for the McCain/Palin campaign to be upset about, with regard to the crap about Palin's family and even going over all the expense records with a fine tooth comb, but this phrase is not really one of them.
Now I'll argue out of the other side of my mouth.. :-)
Apparently with FOX and others picking up on this, it could be a strategy that works. Because it is a play straight out of the lefty play book, it's hard for them fight against it.
if the roles were reversed, and john mccain had made a lipstick on a pig comment 6 days after hypothetical democratic vice presidential nominee hillary clinton had made a lipstick remark in reference to herself in a major, nationally televised speech, what do you think would be happening right now?
yep. national uproar. allegations of everything from sexism to pigism ( :-)). a call for john mccain's head on a pike. 2 weeks of MSM outrage. look, politics ain't always fair. I say run with it.
not to mention the fact that The BarackStar!'s "sweetiegate" remarks, and his observation that hillary might nuke pakistan because she was PMSing, all give the broader conversation a bit of resonance.
if the roles were reversed, and john mccain had made a lipstick on a pig comment 6 days after hypothetical democratic vice presidential nominee hillary clinton had made a lipstick remark in reference to herself in a major, nationally televised speech, what do you think would be happening right now?Oh I agree if McCain did something like that the outrage would not be contained. Someone on another board said what if McCain said "Monkey see, Monkey do" about Obama marching in lock step with the dems.
yep. national uproar. allegations of everything from sexism to pigism ( :-)). a call for john mccain's head on a pike. 2 weeks of MSM outrage. look, politics ain't always fair. I say run with it.
not to mention the fact that The BarackStar!'s "sweetiegate" remarks, and his observation that hillary might nuke pakistan because she was PMSing, all give the broader conversation a bit of resonance.
if the roles were reversed, and john mccain had made a lipstick on a pig comment 6 days after hypothetical democratic vice presidential nominee hillary clinton had made a lipstick remark in reference to herself in a major, nationally televised speech, what do you think would be happening right now?Oh I agree if McCain did something like that the outrage would not be contained. Someone on another board said what if McCain said "Monkey see, Monkey do" about Obama marching in lock step with the dems.
yep. national uproar. allegations of everything from sexism to pigism ( :-)). a call for john mccain's head on a pike. 2 weeks of MSM outrage. look, politics ain't always fair. I say run with it.
not to mention the fact that The BarackStar!'s "sweetiegate" remarks, and his observation that hillary might nuke pakistan because she was PMSing, all give the broader conversation a bit of resonance.
It was an incredibly stupid metaphor to use but I don't think Obama intended to call Palin a pig.
It's a common phrase. This reminds me of something that happened on NU. A ROC poster threw out the question "Have you stopped beating your wife lately?" after an LOC asked a loaded question. The LOC poster went ballistic saying "HOW DARE YOU BRING MY FAMILY INTO THIS???!!!!!!". There was a callout in the Fight Club. It was crazy.
The thing that bothers me about this strategy is that, it is starting to sound like "hands off the girl". It's like the right taking a page out of the lefty book, let's look for offense anywhere we find it.
There is a lot for the McCain/Palin campaign to be upset about, with regard to the crap about Palin's family and even going over all the expense records with a fine tooth comb, but this phrase is not really one of them.
Now I'll argue out of the other side of my mouth.. :-)
Apparently with FOX and others picking up on this, it could be a strategy that works. Because it is a play straight out of the lefty play book, it's hard for them fight against it.
if the roles were reversed, and john mccain had made a lipstick on a pig comment 6 days after hypothetical democratic vice presidential nominee hillary clinton had made a lipstick remark in reference to herself in a major, nationally televised speech, what do you think would be happening right now?
yep. national uproar. allegations of everything from sexism to pigism ( :-)). a call for john mccain's head on a pike. 2 weeks of MSM outrage. look, politics ain't always fair. I say run with it.
not to mention the fact that The BarackStar!'s "sweetiegate" remarks, and his observation that hillary might nuke pakistan because she was PMSing, all give the broader conversation a bit of resonance.
Did he really say that? :o
he made some remark about her judgment being effected when she was "feeling sad and blue". but no, it wasn't specifically about nuking pakistan. i was exaggerating a little bit. :-)
he made some remark about her judgment being effected when she was "feeling sad and blue". but no, it wasn't specifically about nuking pakistan. i was exaggerating a little bit. :-)
I hope he keeps on this attack vector for the rest of the campaign. Teh BarackStar! has focused on Sarah Palin to the exclusion of all else, even the fact that SHE ISN'T RUNNING AGAINST HIM. MCCAIN IS
OhnoesBama is what happens when a DUmmy comes out of momma's basement to run for office. :-)
Did you see him on O'Reilly, saying about Bill Ayers - "What he did was 40 years ago".
Like that makes it ok.
Obama poked fun of McCain and Palin's new "change" mantra.
"You can put lipstick on a pig," he said as the crowd cheered. "It's still a pig."
"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink."
"We've had enough of the same old thing."
I didn't have a problem with the old adage that the Obamassiah used. What's more funny (odd) is that the people he was speaking to thought it was actually ABOUT Palin. That just goes to show how stupid the Dems are. They have ZERO knowledge about old sayings. They take it in the context they want to assume it's meant. It WAS quite stupid for Obama to use that adage at the moment, even though he may have thought it was appropriate.
I didn't have a problem with the old adage that the Obamassiah used. What's more funny (odd) is that the people he was speaking to thought it was actually ABOUT Palin. That just goes to show how stupid the Dems are. They have ZERO knowledge about old sayings. They take it in the context they want to assume it's meant. It WAS quite stupid for Obama to use that adage at the moment, even though he may have thought it was appropriate.
Before Obama was even able to finish the stupid comment...the people in the back were applauding and standing. They CLEARLY thought the comment was about Palin and Barrack was smirking..he could very well justify the statement by claiming it was not what he meant. He's too stupid to retract it or stay he misspoke...that would require integrity.
Isn't it funny how the media crowed over every minor mistake Pres. Bush made, but is deaf, absolutely deaf, when Obama opens his mouth and shoves both feet in? ::)
After listening to the whole clip over and over again - Im pretty sure it was intentional - Listen for the Pause. after he delivers the put lipstick on a pig' line, he waits for the reaction - and then finishes off.
Ive also been observing "Teh Messiah", and he has a tell. When he may be at risk he wipes his brow. Watch his speeches where he makes a comment that he may be called on later - his hand goes right to his forehead.
After listening to the whole clip over and over again - Im pretty sure it was intentional - Listen for the Pause. after he delivers the put lipstick on a pig' line, he waits for the reaction - and then finishes off.
Ive also been observing "Teh Messiah", and he has a tell. When he may be at risk he wipes his brow. Watch his speeches where he makes a comment that he may be called on later - his hand goes right to his forehead.
the pause could have been an "oh, shit" moment, where he realized that he probably just stepped in it, but couldn't (or didn't know how to) extricate himself from the problem that his mouth had gotten him into.
not arguing that it wasn't intentional, that's just an alternate explanation.
After listening to the whole clip over and over again - Im pretty sure it was intentional - Listen for the Pause. after he delivers the put lipstick on a pig' line, he waits for the reaction - and then finishes off.
Ive also been observing "Teh Messiah", and he has a tell. When he may be at risk he wipes his brow. Watch his speeches where he makes a comment that he may be called on later - his hand goes right to his forehead.
the pause could have been an "oh, shit" moment, where he realized that he probably just stepped in it, but couldn't (or didn't know how to) extricate himself from the problem that his mouth had gotten him into.
not arguing that it wasn't intentional, that's just an alternate explanation.
To come back angry and pissy pretty much tells us what the messi-uh is tinking.
yeah, that was a temper tantrum. that's been happening a lot lately. :-)
I would certainly think so. I have never seen anything as vicious as the "vetting" of Sarah Palin, nor as lax as the "vetting" of Obama.Isn't it funny how the media crowed over every minor mistake Pres. Bush made, but is deaf, absolutely deaf, when Obama opens his mouth and shoves both feet in? ::)
The oral fellatio bestowed on the annointed one is being noticed by more and more americans. Eventually, they'll have to come up for air and realize the rest of the world is not as enamoured.
But, but, he has been vetted these past 19 months. *DU mode off*
Well then does that make me qualified to be a political commentator cuz goodness knows I'v racked up enough posts over the past few years. I'll wait for Fox News to call :-)
the pause could have been an "oh, shit" moment, where he realized that he probably just stepped in it, but couldn't (or didn't know how to) extricate himself from the problem that his mouth had gotten him into.
not arguing that it wasn't intentional, that's just an alternate explanation.
the pause could have been an "oh, shit" moment, where he realized that he probably just stepped in it, but couldn't (or didn't know how to) extricate himself from the problem that his mouth had gotten him into.
not arguing that it wasn't intentional, that's just an alternate explanation.
It's possible, yes. But if thats the case, The One isn't quite the gifted orator that his legend makes him up to be. He should have known exactly who the word 'lipstick' is associated with nowadays. I suppose it could be added to the Obama Gaffe roll, which is growing larger each day. Part of my suspicions on Obama comes from his past accusations of McCain. He spent alot of time referring to McCain as "confused" using the same inflection as one would when discussing an elderly, mentally diminished person. The advantage, like "lipstick on a pig" is plausible deniability - common phrase, reading too much into it, yadda yadda..
The same could be said with his middle finger face scratch directed at Hillary, and the sweetie comment. --All misinterpreted....Of course.
But, but, he has been vetted these past 19 months. *DU mode off*Maybe he should visit a Vet. He might be able to get some help with that hoof-in-mouth disease.
Obama on Letterman: If That's What I'd Meant, Palin Would Be the Lipstick, ‘McCain's Failed Policies’ the Pig
Letterman asks Obama if he still thinks the Republicans are overreacting to his comments last night.
"Look this is ... sort of silly season in politics –- not that there’s a non-silly season in politics," Obama says. "But it gets sillier, and it’s a common expression, at least in Illinois, I don’t know about New York City, I don’t know where you guys put lipstick on here."
To audience laughter, Obama says, "In Illinois, the expression connotes the idea that if you have a bad idea -- in this case, I was talking about John McCain’s economic plans -- that just calling them change, calling it something different doesn’t make it better. Hence, lipstick on a pig is still a pig."
"What I like about this scenario is because they -– the Republicans -- demanded an apology," Letterman says, "so that means there had been a meeting at some point somewhere along the line (of) they got together and said, 'You know what? He called our vice presidential candidate a pig.' Well, that seems pretty unlikely, doesn’t it?"
"It does," agrees Obama. "Keep in mind that, technically had I meant it this way –- she would be the lipstick!"
more (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/obama-on-letter.html)