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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on September 22, 2023, 06:50:06 AM
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cilla4progress (23,754 posts)
Anyone got inside poop on
whether Joe will join the UAW picket line?
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218292225
All I know is President Trump plans on visiting...
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Are the primitives completely unaware that the Dem party has become the party of multi-national corporations and billionaires? And pro-war advocates and neo-cons? You know, the very ones they told us for 20 years they opposed?
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Are the primitives completely unaware ?
FIFY :II:
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Lots of people at DU have “inside poop”.
That is, they’re full of shit.
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Are the primitives completely unaware that the Dem party has become the party of multi-national corporations and billionaires? And pro-war advocates and neo-cons? You know, the very ones they told us for 20 years they opposed?
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Yes.
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Ok, I have a question. Liberals are so impressed, enamored even, by unions. They are so impressed with collective bargaining to the point of obsession. They claim without collective bargaining you’ll never ever get a fair shake.
Then they complain about management. The people who are NOT in the union. They complain because these people are paid too much and their benefits are too good …
How does that work? Those who negotiated on their own behalf are castigated because they got a better deal than those who bargained collectively … :rotf:
Sounds like being in a union is working against your best interest. Just sayin.
KC
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At one time unions were necessary, but we’ve come a long way since then. The only problem I see now is that with the flood of illegals coming in unskilled workers are disposable. They can be easily replaced if they want to much or complain about being worked like a rented mule. :thatsright:
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US unions, for more decades than I've been around, have cared little about their members' jobs or this country. They are in it for power.
Years ago, while reading a book about submarine warfare in WW2, I saw an incidental reference to SF Bay Area longshore unions shutting down the shipping of war materials in 1942. Do I have to remind how desperate things were in early 1942, and then in the last 5 months or so in 1942? Anyway, while looking for info about that anti-US strike, I came across this 2011 article:
Missing In Action: Unions in World War II
https://www.writersreps.com/feature.aspx?FeatureID=214 (https://www.writersreps.com/feature.aspx?FeatureID=214)
Organized labor was New Deal Washington’s favorite child when the National Labor Relations Act enshrined collective bargaining and the idea of the “closed shop” in 1935. Because the buildup for war in late 1940 and 1941 brought more jobs, higher wages, and growing union membership, the unions, it was thought, would pitch in along with the rest of the nation to avoid production-slowing strikes–especially in vital defense industries. They thought wrong. Union leaders such as UMW’s John L Lewis, CIO’s Philip Murray, and UAW’s Walter Reuther weren’t men to let a war go to waste as a platform for showing muscle. In the spring of 1941, a wave of strikes began to sweep American defense plants–one of the most bitter in Wisconsin, at the Allis-Chalmers plant manufacturing turbine engines for navy destroyers. More than 3,500 strikes took place through 1941, cutting defense production by 25 percent.
Most of these strikes were not over wages or working conditions, which were certainly demanding, with round the clock shifts and overtime. Most were over the relatively minor issue of “union maintenance,” or which workers would be assigned to what unions as new plants opened and old plants turned over its work force to admit, for instance, African Americans, whom many unions like the Boilermakers Union in the California shipyards tried to exclude. The unions’ most bitter foes were neither employers or the Axis but each other, as the American Federation of Labor (AFL) and the more radical Congress of Industrial Organizations (CIO) competed fiercely for membership.
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The unions finally overreached themselves in May 1943, when the United Mine Workers went off the job for three days. Furious, Roosevelt ordered the army to seize the mines and threatened to withdraw the miners’ draft deferments. The miners went back to work, but Congress had had enough, and in June passed the Smith-Connally bill which didn’t actually ban strikes, but required a sixty-day notice beforehand. Roosevelt vetoed the bill; it took the Senate exactly eleven minutes to override him.
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Lots of people at DU have “inside poop”.
That is, they’re full of shit.
Some even get inside poop on the outside and are loud and proud about it.