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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: enslaved1 on August 25, 2023, 10:36:20 AM
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https://www.newsweek.com/alice-cooper-cosmetics-transgender-comments-1822382 (https://www.newsweek.com/alice-cooper-cosmetics-transgender-comments-1822382)
Rock singer Alice Cooper has lost a brand partnership with a cosmetics company over his comments about transgender people, including describing it as a "fad."
The 75-year-old, whose given name is Vincent Damon Furnier, is best known for his signature black eye make-up, gender-bending stage costumes, and spooky props, including fake blood and guillotines.
He was set to team up with Vampyre Cosmetics for a makeup collection named after him, but the company dumped him over comments he made during an interview with the music website Stereogum. Newsweek contacted Cooper's representatives by email for comment.
The interview, cause there's a lot of cool stuff in it about his new album, and his career, the gender question is down towards the end, and really digs into gender politics, wokeness, ect, way past the snips naysayers are dropping.
https://www.stereogum.com/2233806/alice-cooper-new-album-keanu-reeves-trans-issues/interviews/weve-got-a-file-on-you/ (https://www.stereogum.com/2233806/alice-cooper-new-album-keanu-reeves-trans-issues/interviews/weve-got-a-file-on-you/)
Speaking of naysayers and cherry pickers, Rolling Stones article on the "controversy"
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/alice-cooper-transphobic-statements-kids-gender-identity-bathroom-predator-myths-1234811328/ (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/alice-cooper-transphobic-statements-kids-gender-identity-bathroom-predator-myths-1234811328/)
Alice Cooper Is Worried Being Trans Is a ‘Fad,’ Spews Debunked Bathroom Predator Myths
The musician also leaned on right-wing, anti-trans scare tactics about “woke” culture in an interview with Stereogum
Their "proof" that those myths have been debunked are from 2016, btw, lurkers. A quick DDG search shows several headlines of transgender people committing rape and sexual assault in restrooms from 2017 on.
And just for grins and giggles, a couple of other rockers who have gotten in trouble for daring to question the narrative (which I always though was an integral part of rock and roll)
Paul Stanley of KISS
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kiss-paul-stanley-transphobic-statement-kids-gender-identity-1234726450/ (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kiss-paul-stanley-transphobic-statement-kids-gender-identity-1234726450/)
Dee Snider of Twisted Sister for defending Stanley's comment.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/dee-snider-respond-dropped-san-francisco-pride-1234730341/ (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/dee-snider-respond-dropped-san-francisco-pride-1234730341/)
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I suspect that Cooper has the wherewithal and fanbase to not care. Cooper has been POing the Prog crowd for a couple of decades, for reasons that are good.
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I suspect that Cooper has the wherewithal and fanbase to not care. Cooper has been POing the Prog crowd for a couple of decades, for reasons that are good.
That’s what some don’t understand, when you are rich and famous enough anything the woke cancel culture people do doesn’t really matter.
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That’s what some don’t understand, when you are rich and famous enough anything the woke cancel culture people do doesn’t really matter.
The current parlance is that Alice Cooper and other rich and famous people have "F*ck You" money. Others include Dave Chappelle, Joe Rogan, multiple others.
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As a long time fan of Alice (since I was 12 years old and School's Out was the first record I ever bought), this is just staying consistent with his basic beliefs. One of my favorite Alice quotes
“I call it treason against rock 'n' roll because rock is the antithesis of politics. Rock should never be in bed with politics. ... When I was a kid and my parents started talking about politics, I'd run to my room and put on the Rolling Stones as loud as I could. So when I see all these rock stars up there talking politics, it makes me sick. .... If you're listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are. Why are we rock stars? Because we're morons. We sleep all day, we play music at night and very rarely do we sit around reading the Washington Journal.”
― Alice Cooper
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/166720-i-call-it-treason-against-rock-n-roll-because-rock
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As a long time fan of Alice (since I was 12 years old and School's Out was the first record I ever bought), this is just staying consistent with his basic beliefs. One of my favorite Alice quotes
“I call it treason against rock 'n' roll because rock is the antithesis of politics. Rock should never be in bed with politics. ... When I was a kid and my parents started talking about politics, I'd run to my room and put on the Rolling Stones as loud as I could. So when I see all these rock stars up there talking politics, it makes me sick. .... If you're listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are. Why are we rock stars? Because we're morons. We sleep all day, we play music at night and very rarely do we sit around reading the Washington Journal.”
― Alice Cooper
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/166720-i-call-it-treason-against-rock-n-roll-because-rock
" I figured the only one who was more offensive than Nixon, was me. "
-AC... on why he wrote the song 'Elected', in Autumn of '72.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xXBPg1p-YI