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Title: If Reagan had not emptied the mental institutions.
Post by: CC27 on August 17, 2023, 06:55:43 AM
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Duncanpup (11,748 posts)


If Reagan had not emptied the mental institutions.

Would there even be a Republican Party. Just read that online.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218191675

You DUmmies are the mental cases. Nice projection.
Title: Re: If Reagan had not emptied the mental institutions.
Post by: Old n Grumpy on August 17, 2023, 07:08:46 AM
I was always under the impression that it was a lawsuit that made them close.
Title: Re: If Reagan had not emptied the mental institutions.
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on August 17, 2023, 08:01:32 AM
Hmmm, I can understand the lib-tard slam on conservatives that he's trying to make but one wonders if this nincompoop realized that the Republican Party was prominent during Presidents Eisenhower and Nixon. Selective memory, you douche.
Title: Re: If Reagan had not emptied the mental institutions.
Post by: beefeater on August 17, 2023, 08:17:34 AM
I was always under the impression that it was a lawsuit that made them close.

You are correct sir.
It was a successful lawsuit by the ACLU that enabled the establishment of the DUmp by emptying the insane asylums.

https://www.aclu.org/documents/aclu-history-mental-institutions

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The three-year-long legal battle against Willowbrook culminated in a 1975 consent decree mandating significant reforms; but it took years of tenacious litigation and advocacy to force officials to improve conditions and supply the funds necessary for reform. Historians David and Sheila Rothman subsequently published a detailed account of this process in their widely-read The Willowbrook Wars. In 1983, the state of New York announced plans to close Willowbrook, and the last children left the grounds in 1987. The nationwide publicity generated by the Willowbrook case helped contribute to passage of the Civil Rights of Institutionalized Persons Act of 1980.

The ACLU’s most important Supreme Court case involving the rights of people with mental illness was filed on behalf of Kenneth Donaldson, who had been involuntarily confined in a Florida State Hospital for 15 years. He was not dangerous and had received no medical treatment. In a landmark decision for mental health law in 1975, a unanimous Supreme Court ruled that states cannot confine a non-dangerous individual who can survive on his own, or with help from family and friends.
Title: Re: If Reagan had not emptied the mental institutions.
Post by: Old n Grumpy on August 17, 2023, 08:51:16 AM
Thanks Beefeater that’s what I thought my memory is good sometimes for an old fart  :-) :cheersmate: :cheersmate:
Title: Re: If Reagan had not emptied the mental institutions.
Post by: SVPete on August 17, 2023, 09:44:26 AM
False premise:

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Duncanpup (11,748 posts)

If Reagan had not emptied the mental institutions.

The "emptying" of California's mental hospitals was in response to Federal laws/regs passed in the 1950s and began in the 1960s under Democrat Governor Pat Brown (Moonbeam's Dad). It continued under Brown's successor, Reagan, but California State Mental Hospitals were never actually emptied. Quite a few are still in operation, and even some that did close were closed in the 1990s, e.g. Agnews State Hospital, here in the Santa Clara Valley.

The real mentally ill wandering the streets of California and New York are many/most of Dems' Sacred Homeless.
Title: Re: If Reagan had not emptied the mental institutions.
Post by: jukin on August 17, 2023, 11:58:07 AM
DUmbass DUmmys always wrong but never in doubt.
Title: Re: If Reagan had not emptied the mental institutions.
Post by: SVPete on August 17, 2023, 12:12:21 PM
You are correct sir.
It was a successful lawsuit by the ACLU that enabled the establishment of the DUmp by emptying the insane asylums.

https://www.aclu.org/documents/aclu-history-mental-institutions

So on the national level, it was a lawsuit won by the ACLU plus a law passed by a Dem-controlled Congress that was signed into law by Dem POTUS Jimmy Carter.
Title: Re: If Reagan had not emptied the mental institutions.
Post by: jukin on August 17, 2023, 02:02:04 PM
So on the national level, it was a lawsuit won by the ACLU plus a law passed by a Dem-controlled Congress that was signed into law by Dem POTUS Jimmy Carter.

Yep, it was all Governor Reagan's fault.
Title: Re: If Reagan had not emptied the mental institutions.
Post by: ADsOutburst on August 17, 2023, 03:47:11 PM
If the dead could vote, would th-... oh, wait.
Title: Re: If Reagan had not emptied the mental institutions.
Post by: DUmpDiver on August 17, 2023, 05:59:17 PM
I was curious so looked it up and mentally ill people have the right to vote unless a probate court specifically takes away that right away from them. (This is good news for DUmmies. :))
Title: Re: If Reagan had not emptied the mental institutions.
Post by: BannedFromDU on August 22, 2023, 12:07:38 PM
Yep, it was all Governor Reagan's fault.


     Just for the sake of argument, let's say that Reagan DID "shut down" or "defund" health care. Let's suppose he did it, and did it just for meanness. Just suppose.

     Why didn't Clinton reverse it? He had two admins to do it. Why didn't he?

     Why didn't 0bama reverse it? He had two admins to do it. For a while, he could push thru anything he wanted. And he did.

     Why hasn't Biden reversed it? He's 2+ years in.

     Because it's all bullshit, that's why.
Title: Re: If Reagan had not emptied the mental institutions.
Post by: Old n Grumpy on August 22, 2023, 02:45:37 PM
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In a landmark decision for mental health law in 1975, a unanimous Supreme Court ruled that states cannot confine a non-dangerous individual who can survive on his own, or with help from family and friends.

It doesn’t seem that most of the drug addicted homeless are able to take care of themselves.they may be “surviving “ but not in a healthy humane manner.
Title: Re: If Reagan had not emptied the mental institutions.
Post by: BannedFromDU on August 22, 2023, 02:53:11 PM
It doesn’t seem that most of the drug addicted homeless are able to take care of themselves.they may be “surviving “ but not in a healthy humane manner.

     Not only do most of them not want to live like humans, but not even rock-ribbed liberal communities want the street-shitting junkie freaks near them. (https://nypost.com/2023/08/21/residents-of-liberal-bay-area-town-millbrae-protest-hotel-for-homeless/)

     I am past caring what happens to people who don't care about themselves.
Title: Re: If Reagan had not emptied the mental institutions.
Post by: DefiantSix on August 22, 2023, 03:36:53 PM
 
     Not only do most of them not want to live like humans, but not even rock-ribbed liberal communities want the street-shitting junkie freaks near them. (https://nypost.com/2023/08/21/residents-of-liberal-bay-area-town-millbrae-protest-hotel-for-homeless/)

     I am past caring what happens to people who don't care about themselves. (my emphasis added)

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