Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-07-08 09:17 AMAnd more
Response to Reply #10
11. How are you going to get rednecks into the Democratic party ...
Without adopting redneck values?
I don't even have to change my clothes to pass for redneck, I'm an old hippie who hasn't changed styles since 1968.
Put on a southern drawl and grab my shootin' iron and voila', I'm a redneck.
If the Dems go aggressively after the redneck vote, they'll lose my vote.. They're damn close to losing it because of all the God botherer talk, that hypocritical garbage turns me off big time.
I don't want to vote for a party which courts the redneck vote and I won't. I'm having to hold my nose so hard it hurts now, try bringing the rednecks in and there is virtually no reason for me to stay and I very well may not
Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-07-08 05:41 PMSomeone tries to interject some common sense
Response to Reply #13
15. I see a few problems...
On the gun control issue, there is a very significant fraction of the Dem base that is for considerably more stringent gun control. It doesn't effect me either way, I'm pretty much neutral on guns, but I know there are a lot of people who will vote based on pro or anti. It's my opinion though that you are more likely to shoot yourself or a family member than you are to defend yourself with a firearm. Most people get their firearms training from the movies and TV which leaves them believing fantasies about firearms.
Look at who owns the Dems, big business, just like the Reps.. There really isn't any way that the Dems are going to become more progressive on labor issues.
Obama is talking about universal insurance, I also remember Hillary's comment about "I can envision a day when you have to show proof of insurance at the job interview".. That one single comment was enough to turn me off Hillary completely, it was so incredibly out of touch with the concerns of average Americans that I was in shock after hearing it. I don't want universal insurance, I want universal health care. I went to a new doctor the other day as my coverage changed.. Out of about fifteen pages of forms to fill out, well over half had to to do with insurance. I hate filling out meaningless paperwork and universal insurance is going to mean yards and yards of paperwork.
Rednecks by and large are bigoted jerks, I have no intention of sticking around if the Dems try to court bigoted jerks into the big tent.
blindpig (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-08-08 08:11 AMand the reply? :-)
Response to Reply #21
26. At the end of the day
politics is about economics, it is the dog that wags the tail. That the business community would oppose a return of New Deal style politics says all you need to know about them, they are the enemy.
The Republicans play the Democrats like Pavlov's dog, they throw bait like Palin in front of them and sit back while the Democrats discredit themselves before a large part of the electorate. And the thing is, the Democrats got nothing else, you need a microscope to discern differences between them and the Republicans on economic matters. Where's the universal health care?
This is a loser's game
erpowers (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-08-08 09:57 AMBlindpig rams his head into the wall onethe last time :-)
Response to Original message
31. Question Not Can They, but Should They
I contend the questions should not be can they learn to talk redneck, but should they try those things. If there are Democrats that like country music and hunting then they should try to talk to the gun toting hunting Republicans. However, any Democrat that does not genuinely like those things should not do so. There is no need for Democrats to change who they are just to get a few people to vote for the party. As other in this post have said the Democrats need to keep talking about the facts. In addition, the Democrats need to do as the author said and register as many people as possible and get as many people to the polls as possible. It seems that a number of people are upset about Palin's comment about community organizers. Democrats need to say to those people, "if you are angry about Palin's comment do not just complain, get out and vote and while you are at it bring a few people with you." I think DU should make up some special bumper stickers and avatars that say, "I am a community organizer and I brought three or more people to the polls with me", and then give them out to anyone who brings multiple people to the polls
blindpig (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-08-08 10:14 AMYou're wasting your time Blindpig....they're far too invested in hatred and rage to actually form a strategy to win an election!http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3941280#3947864
Response to Reply #31
32. Yeah, right.
Wouldn't want anybody to have their precious minds sullied by comporting with the great unwashed.
Elitists much?
This is how the Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, again
Fumesucker
I don't even have to change my clothes to pass for redneck, I'm an old hippie who hasn't changed styles since 1968.
Put on a southern drawl and grab my shootin' iron and voila', I'm a redneck.
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I don't even have to change my clothes to pass for redneck, I'm an old hippie who hasn't changed styles since 1968.
Put on a southern drawl and grab my shootin' iron and voila', I'm a redneck.
Yeah, that'll work. :whatever:
You try that, Fumesucker. The only way you'll be hanging with anyone will be with your neck in a rope from a tree.
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