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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: bijou on September 08, 2008, 08:29:34 AM
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LibraLiz1973 (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-08-08 09:24 AM
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I'm furious and emotional- and just *****ng beyond.
Advertisements [?]I'm furious at my own stupidity in thinking that Palin made this an easy victory. I was wrong. I had a momentary lack of reason & assumed that everyone would look at her lack of experience for what it really is: A glaring red flag that says ERROR, ERROR! Instead, I am in ****ing la-la land where people are saying dumb shit like her being the mom of 5 brings something to the table. Does Barack being the father of 2 bring something to the table? How about Biden's 3 living children? What do the children REALLY bring to the table when your going head to head with Vladimir Putin? Yes, parenting is one of the toughest jobs on earth. But it brings little to the table when you are dealing with foreign policy.
I'm furious at the new poll numbers that seem to indicate that America really IS this stupid. WHAT. THE. ****? McCain is right next to Bush as one of the WORST contenders ever. He's running on the heels of 8 years of horrific ineptitude- and people are buying it! I ask again: WHAT. THE. ****?
Eight years of Bush has been hell on our country. People are losing their jobs, their homes, their very lives. We're in a war we had no right to start. The fabric of our country has been torn to shreds. Yet people are gulping down kool-aid and supporting McCain. WHAT. THE. ****?
I can't tell you how absolutely ****ing flabbergasted I am when I see ANYONE who makes below $50,000 a year supporting McCain. Or anyone who has more than one job. Anyone who doesn't have health care. Anyone who has no job & is struggling to find one. Anyone who has lost their home. Anyone who KNOWS and CARES about someone who has or is going through what I just listed.
I've spent the entire election saying that race wasn't an issue. I'm so pissed off and disheartened right now, I can't help but to think that people are leaning McCain because he's white. His VP pick is a ****ing embarrassment & he has clearly stated time and again that he supports Bush's policies and will continue to do Bush's bidding. But are people running in droves from him? NO! They are piling on. The ONLY reason I see to be doing that is because, at heart, many of these voters are racist. Give me ONE good reason why, when the choice is Obama or McCain, anyone who ISN'T a millionaire would vote McCain???????
If I were Obama & Joe Biden right now, I'd be banging my head on a ****ing table. People REALLY are ****ING STUPID.
We should have this in the bag right now. It is SO beyond clear that Obama is the only choice that can start steering this country in the right direction.
I'll be completely honest- I know I am emotional about this. "Losing" in 2000 SUCKED... but as bad as it was, we didn't know what we were in for.
Once we did, that made 2004's loss absolutely gutting. It was beyond depressing- not that I need to tell you guys that. You know. As I am watching this play out, and watching the M$M gently caress the McCain campaign, I am terrified at where this could be going. I just really, really don't think that FINANCIALLY I can afford another 4 years of this shit.
I'm sorry, I know I am talking a lot about me here. But if not to you guys who will understand, than who?
I am not concern trolling. I am voicing legitimate frustration.
It is my hope that in posting this, I'll get feedback from you guys telling me not to worry & give me some positives to focus on.
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What a great rant. I enjoyed the pain. Does this make me a bad person? :overreaction:
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What a great rant. I enjoyed the pain. Does this make me a bad person? :overreaction:
If it does then I am doomed too. :rotf:
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Your tears taste so great!
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I like the clear indication that if you don't vote Obama, you are a racist.
okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Sep-08-08 09:30 AM
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1. it's close, but I agree with you 110%. obama is fighting an up hill
battle because of race. there are a lot of people who are going to have second thoughts with turning over the keys to a black man. I'm surprised that mcnutts hasn't tried to use the detroit mayor deal to sell that line of thought.
LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Sep-08-08 09:34 AM
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6. How CRAZY is that?!?! Obama is the one fighting the uphill battle?
It makes me mental. He should be coasting right now. The campaign he's run... the campaign McCain's run.
Obama's plans for change... McCain's plan to change nothing. Why is this even tight?
I see them ripping it out of our hands, again, and I just want to cry.
Literally.
It's either racism or they are stealing it.
Who are these fundie mother****ers stealing our country?!?!
I've tried and tried to not be angry at people who I know are Republicans. But more and more, they make me SICK.
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Gee, they call us stupid and wonder why we don't join them on the left. :whatever:
I love the liberal angst oozing out of that post though. What a great way to start the day!
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Your tears taste so great!
H5! :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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Now to answer the underlying question:
Who would not vote for a smarmy, effete, elitist dilettante who has no experience, has no original thoughts, hides his relevant past and employs thug political tactics?? And his buffoon, asshole running mate? Emplty suit and stuffed shirt -- who would NOT vote for that?
Racists, I guess.
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As soon as our numbers go up a notch they go for the race card. Every. Damned. Time. They dont even see how knee jerk predictable they are either. I sure hope they don't wise up. :cheersmate:
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What the liberal lizard primitive is actually saying is, "People who don't see things the same way I do, are stupid."
Oh my.
Hardly anybody sees things the same way franksolich sees them, but franksolich doesn't think they're stupid.
In fact, a great many times, people who saw things different from the way franksolich saw them were right, and franksolich was wrong.
I have no idea where the primitives, especially the Obamaite primitives, get this idea that they're more cerebrally-endowed than anybody else.
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Who are these fundie mother****ers stealing our country?!?!
I've tried and tried to not be angry at people who I know are Republicans. But more and more, they make me SICK.
The same people the you and your type stole it from in the 70's, and 90's and now those "fundies" are taking it back.
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I'd make LibraLiz head explode then to tell her that the same 2 obamessiah signs sit where they have the whole campaign in their respective yards, yet in the last week(in fact over the weekend) 7 yards in my circle of 100 homes are sporting McCain yard signs. I'm enjoying imagining how the homes with the Oobama's are handling the influx of support for their perceived nemesis. :rotf:
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Now to answer the underlying question:
Who would not vote for a smarmy, effete, elitist dilettante who has no experience, has no original thoughts, hides his relevant past and employs thug political tactics?? And his buffoon, asshole running mate? Emplty suit and stuffed shirt -- who would NOT vote for that?
Racists, I guess.
Must be the same brand of racists that plan to vote for him precisely for the color of his skin and sadly I know an awful lot of blacks to whom that personification applies to, even ones that were moderates or uninterested in politics previously. I would submit to LibraLiz that Obama's promises are transparent and change is NOT always good and people know this. Calculated, planned, and smart change is a good thing. Changing the fundamental things that built this into a great nation is NOT. See how that works?
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I haven't laughed this hard...since yesterday.
You are enjoying yourself aren't you BC? :-)
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-08-08 10:29 AM
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40. To paraphrase Adlai Stevenson
'All thinking people will vote for Obama. That's not enough, he needs a majority'.
The about half of the American people are apathetic idiots who are not able to comprehend anything more in depth then a 30 second sound-bite. They would rather have a President that they would be comfortable drinking a beer with then a President who is truly exceptional.
"When facism comes to America it will
"WHY WON"T THESE ****ING IDIOTS VOTE FOR US?" {du mode off} :-) They just don't get it! :rotf:
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LibraLiz1973
We should have this in the bag right now. It is SO beyond clear that Obama is the only choice that can start steering this country in the right direction.
If the right direction is over a cliff, then the Obamassiah is your driver. No, I don't expect you to be intelligent enough to understand how economically disasterious his policies would be.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Sep-08-08 09:30 AM
Response to Original message
1. it's close, but I agree with you 110%. obama is fighting an up hill
battle because of race. there are a lot of people who are going to have second thoughts with turning over the keys to a black man. I'm surprised that mcnutts hasn't tried to use the detroit mayor deal to sell that line of thought.
Thanks for your concern, DUmmie okieinpain, but it isn't necessary for mcnutts to do that. The mayor of Detroit has been taking care of it himself.
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People REALLY are ****ING STUPID.
I agree. Just look at the RAT party and their base.
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So if people who don't vote for Obama are racists does that mean if Hillary was the nominee those voting against her would be sexist?
Cindie
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Comments like the one that bowens43 makes concerning the intelligence of the American people is precisely why the dems fail to win the oval office. For all the issues with Bill Clinton, he didn't seem to be looking down on the voters. He may have thought they were idiots but he didn't come across that way. The last three offerings from the libs have come across as elitists who know what is in everyones best interest. "Vote for me because I'm smarter than you" doesn't when elections.
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Um........ya......... :rotf: :tongue:
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Sep-08-08 09:34 AM
Response to Reply #1
6. How CRAZY is that?!?! Obama is the one fighting the uphill battle?
It makes me mental.
Still having a little trouble getting 'cause' and 'effect' in the right order, I see.
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Comments like the one that bowens43 makes concerning the intelligence of the American people is precisely why the dems fail to win the oval office. For all the issues with Bill Clinton, he didn't seem to be looking down on the voters. He may have thought they were idiots but he didn't come across that way. The last three offerings from the libs have come across as elitists who know what is in everyones best interest. "Vote for me because I'm smarter than you" doesn't when elections.
In order for them to start winning elections they would have to actually admit that Bush beat them fair and square and it was directly because of their condescending attitude. They still believe Bush stole the 2000 election and 90% of them think he stole the 2004 election. It is because of their own arrogance and condescension that they continue to lose! If Bubba was good at one thing it was that he was able to triangulate and take votes from the middle!
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts)
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I see them ripping it out of our hands, again, and I just want to cry.
I plan on seeing it. Watching you asshats act out in 2004 was so entertaining - it's going to be even better this year. :-)
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Gee, they call us stupid and wonder why we don't join them on the left. :whatever:
I love the liberal angst oozing out of that post though. What a great way to start the day!
Yeah, imagine that. ::)
If we all smoked a bunch of weed, maybe we'd see things through lib-glasses, also.
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-08-08 10:29 AM
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40. To paraphrase Adlai Stevenson
'All thinking people will vote for Obama. That's not enough, he needs a majority'.
The about half of the American people are apathetic idiots who are not able to comprehend anything more in depth then a 30 second sound-bite. They would rather have a President that they would be comfortable drinking a beer with then a President who is truly exceptional.
"When facism comes to America it will
"WHY WON"T THESE ****ING IDIOTS VOTE FOR US?" {du mode off} :-) They just don't get it! :rotf:
Again, look at how liberals look at "average Americans."
And they wonder why their blind arrogance (and self-echoing stupidity) isn't rewarded by votes.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts)
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I see them ripping it out of our hands, again, and I just want to cry.
I plan on seeing it. Watching you asshats act out in 2004 was so entertaining - it's going to be even better this year. :-)
There is even more going on here -- the personal attacks on Sarah Palin and her family are not only tainting the anointed one's ointment, it is starting to foul the waters in other local elections as right thinking people ask, GENERICALLY, "why would I vote for such hateful and petty people?" of the democratic party.
The more they dig, the deeper the hole gets.
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The ONLY reason I see to be doing that is because, at heart, many of these voters are racist.
Well hot damn, you've figured it all out! Yes, we're all racists. It has nothing to do with our respect for McCain as a vet or Palin as a conservative and a mother. It's just race. My family has harbored irrational prejudices against wealthy liberal presidential canidates for years, and it doesn't look like the cycle will be broken anytime soon.
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{inserts picture of Nelson from The Simpsons]
HA HA!!!
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-08-08 10:29 AM
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40. To paraphrase Adlai Stevenson
'All thinking people will vote for Obama. That's not enough, he needs a majority'.
The about half of the American people are apathetic idiots who are not able to comprehend anything more in depth then a 30 second sound-bite. They would rather have a President that they would be comfortable drinking a beer with then a President who is truly exceptional.
"When facism comes to America it will
"WHY WON"T THESE ******* IDIOTS VOTE FOR US?" {du mode off} :-) They just don't get it! :rotf:
Again, look at how liberals look at "average Americans."
And they wonder why their blind arrogance (and self-echoing stupidity) isn't rewarded by votes.
Ah yes, the successful politician and populist president of the United States Adlai Stevenon....of course history remembers his term of office as...........a first standard deviation (didn't actually exist).
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Comments like the one that bowens43 makes concerning the intelligence of the American people is precisely why the dems fail to win the oval office. For all the issues with Bill Clinton, he didn't seem to be looking down on the voters. He may have thought they were idiots but he didn't come across that way. The last three offerings from the libs have come across as elitists who know what is in everyones best interest. "Vote for me because I'm smarter than you" doesn't when elections.
In order for them to start winning elections they would have to actually admit that Bush beat them fair and square and it was directly because of their condescending attitude. They still believe Bush stole the 2000 election and 90% of them think he stole the 2004 election. It is because of their own arrogance and condescension that they continue to lose! If Bubba was good at one thing it was that he was able to triangulate and take votes from the middle!
They are already setting the stage for a "2008" was stolen. And I think we will see tendrils of a "Sarah stole 2012" preemption pretty soon.
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{inserts picture of Nelson from The Simpsons]
HA HA!!!
:haha:
It's a smiley!