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Current Events => Archives => Politics => Election 2008 => Topic started by: Baruch Menachem on September 06, 2008, 05:25:40 PM
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She sounds just like my dentist: "Drill drill drill....."
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any other contributions...?
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She sounds just like my dentist: "Drill drill drill....."
any other contributions...?
You must not like T. Boone Pickens then, too.
Me, I love her. Only from afar, though. I sure wish that enough Dem voters would say, "Hey--she's just like us," just like one of Hugh Hewitt's emailers to his blog on Townhall.com said, and turn NYS into a "Toss-Up" state.
If she could take a moose down with no problem, she could probably give me pointers on whitetail deer.
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She sounds just like my dentist: "Drill drill drill....."
any other contributions...?
She's not in my bed.
We're not flying to Vegas for wild booze soaked weekend adventure.
Damn! :banghead:
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Maybe you've missed this?
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She sounds just like my dentist: "Drill drill drill....."
any other contributions...?
She's not in my bed.
We're not flying to Vegas for wild booze soaked weekend adventure.
Damn! :banghead:
I feel your pain
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Ok, serious here. When I first heard about her as a possible choice for McCain's running mate a couple of months ago, I thought it was a good choice back then. However I thought that, like Bobby Jindal, that her state needed her more. During the past week or so, I am believing more and more that this was the best choice, especially after the speech and the increasing popularity despite, or perhaps because of, all of the negative, slanderous, hate-filled attacks by the moonbats.
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Ok, serious here. When I first heard about her as a possible choice for McCain's running mate a couple of months ago, I thought it was a good choice back then. However I thought that, like Bobby Jindal, that her state needed her more. During the past week or so, I am believing more and more that this was the best choice, especially after the speech and the increasing popularity despite, or perhaps because of, all of the negative, slanderous, hate-filled attacks by the moonbats.
consider the alternatives. if he had gone with mitt, or huck, or rudy, or anyone else, it would have put the base to sleep. and then,
sooner or later, the MSM would have gotten around to telling us all that the republicans were running a couple of white guys against
a black guy. message : "See? they are closet racists".
Sarah Palin destroys all that.
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consider the alternatives. if he had gone with mitt, or huck, or rudy, or anyone else, it would have put the base to sleep. and then,
sooner or later, the MSM would have gotten around to telling us all that the republicans were running a couple of white guys against
a black guy. message : "See? they are closet racists".
Sarah Palin destroys all that.
Precisely. Of all the possible choices, this one was the best. That and the fact that Obama completely passed over Hillary and picked Biden of all people certainly helps as well.
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I like her. I like knowing John McCain and Joe Biden both have a running mate who sits down to pee. Good balance.
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I like her. I like knowing John McCain and Joe Biden both have a running mate who sits down to pee. Good balance.
Ouch! H5! :-)
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When I wanted to see where she stood on certain issues, I found little to nothing. It occured to me that some of that might be because of her unique location. For example, I haven't found very much on her ideas regarding education outside of supporting vouchers and "accountability". I'd like to hear more on what she means by accountablity. Is she just for holding kids back a grade or is she for giving those students additional help in those subjects being struggled in? She seems to concentrate a lot on energy, which is good. I wish she'd discuss the other subjects more.
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When I wanted to see where she stood on certain issues, I found little to nothing. It occured to me that some of that might be because of her unique location. For example, I haven't found very much on her ideas regarding education outside of supporting vouchers and "accountability". I'd like to hear more on what she means by accountablity. Is she just for holding kids back a grade or is she for giving those students additional help in those subjects being struggled in? She seems to concentrate a lot on energy, which is good. I wish she'd discuss the other subjects more.
And what are Obama's views on vouchers, accountability, tutoring, etc? How about his views on drilling? What is his plan for tiding us over until alternative energy sources are ready for use? I wish he'd discuss the fixes, instead of the problems. Especially since he is running for President, while Sarah is running for VICE President.
It's so amusing, so many people expect her to have every issue covered just days after being tapped to run. :whatever:
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When I wanted to see where she stood on certain issues, I found little to nothing. It occured to me that some of that might be because of her unique location. For example, I haven't found very much on her ideas regarding education outside of supporting vouchers and "accountability". I'd like to hear more on what she means by accountablity. Is she just for holding kids back a grade or is she for giving those students additional help in those subjects being struggled in? She seems to concentrate a lot on energy, which is good. I wish she'd discuss the other subjects more.
her involvement in politics STARTED at the PTA level
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Accountability here means the teachers and the schools. They are getting huge amounts of money and doing worse every year. And the students aren't getting dumber, and there should not be such a huge disparity in results, as two standard deviations in intelligence are a very small range. To be totally crass here, the input into the system is of very narrow range, so why is the output so very different, and declining in quality? If Ford or GM produced such a low quality product, they would be broke. Since the money increases all the time, and the students skills seem to decrease, there seems to be a need for accountability in the process of education.
That is something that really rocked for me in the McCain speech. Hold the schools accountable. They are the experts, we want results from them.
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When I wanted to see where she stood on certain issues, I found little to nothing. It occured to me that some of that might be because of her unique location. For example, I haven't found very much on her ideas regarding education outside of supporting vouchers and "accountability". I'd like to hear more on what she means by accountablity. Is she just for holding kids back a grade or is she for giving those students additional help in those subjects being struggled in? She seems to concentrate a lot on energy, which is good. I wish she'd discuss the other subjects more.
This right here shows you to be a ****in' moron. ::)
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When I wanted to see where she stood on certain issues, I found little to nothing. It occured to me that some of that might be because of her unique location. For example, I haven't found very much on her ideas regarding education outside of supporting vouchers and "accountability". I'd like to hear more on what she means by accountablity. Is she just for holding kids back a grade or is she for giving those students additional help in those subjects being struggled in? She seems to concentrate a lot on energy, which is good. I wish she'd discuss the other subjects more.
And what are Obama's views on vouchers, accountability, tutoring, etc? How about his views on drilling? What is his plan for tiding us over until alternative energy sources are ready for use? I wish he'd discuss the fixes, instead of the problems. Especially since he is running for President, while Sarah is running for VICE President.
It's so amusing, so many people expect her to have every issue covered just days after being tapped to run. :whatever:
With Obama, I could at least find voting records about where he stood on certain things. Ditto with McCain (although I didn't agree with a lot of it, but I found other ideas he was trying to encourage that I think might work if he becomes President). I don't expect her to cover every issue, but right now, probably 90% of her stuff is talking about energy.
I'm not too worried about drilling. I think it's been argued so much back and forth that something will be drilled regardless of who gets it.
WE, It is good that she started at the PTA level. I think she also has educators in the family. She probably at least understands some of the stuff that goes on in schools.
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When I wanted to see where she stood on certain issues, I found little to nothing. It occured to me that some of that might be because of her unique location. For example, I haven't found very much on her ideas regarding education outside of supporting vouchers and "accountability". I'd like to hear more on what she means by accountablity. Is she just for holding kids back a grade or is she for giving those students additional help in those subjects being struggled in? She seems to concentrate a lot on energy, which is good. I wish she'd discuss the other subjects more.
And what are Obama's views on vouchers, accountability, tutoring, etc? How about his views on drilling? What is his plan for tiding us over until alternative energy sources are ready for use? I wish he'd discuss the fixes, instead of the problems. Especially since he is running for President, while Sarah is running for VICE President.
It's so amusing, so many people expect her to have every issue covered just days after being tapped to run. :whatever:
With Obama, I could at least find voting records about where he stood on certain things. Ditto with McCain (although I didn't agree with a lot of it, but I found other ideas he was trying to encourage that I think might work if he becomes President). I don't expect her to cover every issue, but right now, probably 90% of her stuff is talking about energy.
I'm not too worried about drilling. I think it's been argued so much back and forth that something will be drilled regardless of who gets it.
WE, It is good that she started at the PTA level. I think she also has educators in the family. She probably at least understands some of the stuff that goes on in schools.
Oh come on Lanie.
We all know you have no intention of voting Republican this year. So your false desire to "learn" more about Palin's stances is just that.
FALSE!!!!
False.
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Accountability here means the teachers and the schools. They are getting huge amounts of money and doing worse every year. And the students aren't getting dumber, and there should not be such a huge disparity in results, as two standard deviations in intelligence are a very small range. To be totally crass here, the input into the system is of very narrow range, so why is the output so very different, and declining in quality? If Ford or GM produced such a low quality product, they would be broke. Since the money increases all the time, and the students skills seem to decrease, there seems to be a need for accountability in the process of education.
That is something that really rocked for me in the McCain speech. Hold the schools accountable. They are the experts, we want results from them.
I see what you're saying, but I am not sure I like the current way of dealing with that. Taking away federal money won't help struggling schools. That's what NCLB does. Furthermore, that same "accountability" law is demanding that kids of special needs take the same tests as other kids their grade level. Of course that's bad for the individual student to be taking a test they can never do well in (in some cases of special needs kids). To top it all off though, those tests of the special needs kids reflect the overall image of how well the school does. So a school can be in danger of losing federal funds because kids were demanded to take a test they couldn't necessarily take. I'm hoping Palin would be willing to work toward fixing that part of NCLB.
McCain says he wants to help teachers who can't teach "find another line of work", and I would support that.
What they really need to do is stop having this "one size fits all" system. Start allowing raises for teachers who do really well.
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When I wanted to see where she stood on certain issues, I found little to nothing. It occured to me that some of that might be because of her unique location. For example, I haven't found very much on her ideas regarding education outside of supporting vouchers and "accountability". I'd like to hear more on what she means by accountablity. Is she just for holding kids back a grade or is she for giving those students additional help in those subjects being struggled in? She seems to concentrate a lot on energy, which is good. I wish she'd discuss the other subjects more.
And what are Obama's views on vouchers, accountability, tutoring, etc? How about his views on drilling? What is his plan for tiding us over until alternative energy sources are ready for use? I wish he'd discuss the fixes, instead of the problems. Especially since he is running for President, while Sarah is running for VICE President.
It's so amusing, so many people expect her to have every issue covered just days after being tapped to run. :whatever:
With Obama, I could at least find voting records about where he stood on certain things. Ditto with McCain (although I didn't agree with a lot of it, but I found other ideas he was trying to encourage that I think might work if he becomes President). I don't expect her to cover every issue, but right now, probably 90% of her stuff is talking about energy.
I'm not too worried about drilling. I think it's been argued so much back and forth that something will be drilled regardless of who gets it.
WE, It is good that she started at the PTA level. I think she also has educators in the family. She probably at least understands some of the stuff that goes on in schools.
Oh come on Lanie.
We all know you have no intention of voting Republican this year. So your false desire to "learn" more about Palin's stances is just that.
FALSE!!!!
False.
Hehe. Actually, I am voting McCain this year. One of the reasons is that I actually do like Palin. She has a lot of girl power. I just enjoy making the devil advocates arguments. I also get interested in seeing if anybody can address my points or vice versa.
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And your so called research couldn't have been done over there at NU ?
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And your so called research couldn't have been done over there at NU ?
I never called this research.
And yes, I did discuss it over there.
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When I wanted to see where she stood on certain issues, I found little to nothing. It occured to me that some of that might be because of her unique location. For example, I haven't found very much on her ideas regarding education outside of supporting vouchers and "accountability". I'd like to hear more on what she means by accountablity. Is she just for holding kids back a grade or is she for giving those students additional help in those subjects being struggled in? She seems to concentrate a lot on energy, which is good. I wish she'd discuss the other subjects more.
And what are Obama's views on vouchers, accountability, tutoring, etc? How about his views on drilling? What is his plan for tiding us over until alternative energy sources are ready for use? I wish he'd discuss the fixes, instead of the problems. Especially since he is running for President, while Sarah is running for VICE President.
It's so amusing, so many people expect her to have every issue covered just days after being tapped to run. :whatever:
With Obama, I could at least find voting records about where he stood on certain things. Ditto with McCain (although I didn't agree with a lot of it, but I found other ideas he was trying to encourage that I think might work if he becomes President). I don't expect her to cover every issue, but right now, probably 90% of her stuff is talking about energy.
I'm not too worried about drilling. I think it's been argued so much back and forth that something will be drilled regardless of who gets it.
WE, It is good that she started at the PTA level. I think she also has educators in the family. She probably at least understands some of the stuff that goes on in schools.
Oh come on Lanie.
We all know you have no intention of voting Republican this year. So your false desire to "learn" more about Palin's stances is just that.
FALSE!!!!
False.
Hehe. Actually, I am voting McCain this year. One of the reasons is that I actually do like Palin. She has a lot of girl power. I just enjoy making the devil advocates arguments. I also get interested in seeing if anybody can address my points or vice versa.
great! welcome to mccain-palin!
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Accountability here means the teachers and the schools. They are getting huge amounts of money and doing worse every year. And the students aren't getting dumber, and there should not be such a huge disparity in results, as two standard deviations in intelligence are a very small range. To be totally crass here, the input into the system is of very narrow range, so why is the output so very different, and declining in quality? If Ford or GM produced such a low quality product, they would be broke. Since the money increases all the time, and the students skills seem to decrease, there seems to be a need for accountability in the process of education.
That is something that really rocked for me in the McCain speech. Hold the schools accountable. They are the experts, we want results from them.
I see what you're saying, but I am not sure I like the current way of dealing with that. Taking away federal money won't help struggling schools. That's what NCLB does. Furthermore, that same "accountability" law is demanding that kids of special needs take the same tests as other kids their grade level. Of course that's bad for the individual student to be taking a test they can never do well in (in some cases of special needs kids). To top it all off though, those tests of the special needs kids reflect the overall image of how well the school does. So a school can be in danger of losing federal funds because kids were demanded to take a test they couldn't necessarily take. I'm hoping Palin would be willing to work toward fixing that part of NCLB.
McCain says he wants to help teachers who can't teach "find another line of work", and I would support that.
What they really need to do is stop having this "one size fits all" system. Start allowing raises for teachers who do really well.
One point...NCLB merely supplies the framework, each state writes their own tests. Therefore, if the libs in the particular state don't care for NCLB because "it's Pres. Bush's" legislation (ignoring Ted Kennedy's authorship), they simply make the test nearly impossible for the kids to pass. Then the teachers are forced to "teach to the test" instead of to grade level. I don't know who writes the tests in every state, but in Kansas, it's the elite libtards in KU who write the tests. In 4th grade, my daughter had to learn statistics...things I've never studied and Mr Smith learned in college. Obviously, the KU 'tards don't like NCLB, and are making the test as difficult as possible to express their opinion.
If we want results from our schools, giving teachers raises would be nice, but the union won't agree to that. As the union supports the Dims by about 95% to 5% (just like the NEA), good teachers have just about no chance of reward.
Removing money from schools IS an acceptable solution, in that case. It also forces the school districts to allow kids to move to different schools, something many districts refuse citing desegregation laws. When they've screwed up badly enough, the schools gets a kick in the backside, and the parents who care get their kids into better schools.
Vouchers would, of course, be even better...but the libs, teacher's union and NEA hate that idea. The more kids escape from the regular public school, the fewer they can brainwash.
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Accountability here means the teachers and the schools. They are getting huge amounts of money and doing worse every year. And the students aren't getting dumber, and there should not be such a huge disparity in results, as two standard deviations in intelligence are a very small range. To be totally crass here, the input into the system is of very narrow range, so why is the output so very different, and declining in quality? If Ford or GM produced such a low quality product, they would be broke. Since the money increases all the time, and the students skills seem to decrease, there seems to be a need for accountability in the process of education.
That is something that really rocked for me in the McCain speech. Hold the schools accountable. They are the experts, we want results from them.
I see what you're saying, but I am not sure I like the current way of dealing with that. Taking away federal money won't help struggling schools. That's what NCLB does. Furthermore, that same "accountability" law is demanding that kids of special needs take the same tests as other kids their grade level. Of course that's bad for the individual student to be taking a test they can never do well in (in some cases of special needs kids). To top it all off though, those tests of the special needs kids reflect the overall image of how well the school does. So a school can be in danger of losing federal funds because kids were demanded to take a test they couldn't necessarily take. I'm hoping Palin would be willing to work toward fixing that part of NCLB.
McCain says he wants to help teachers who can't teach "find another line of work", and I would support that.
What they really need to do is stop having this "one size fits all" system. Start allowing raises for teachers who do really well.
Prior to the enactment of NCLB school districts pushed special needs children through without exerting any efforts whatsoever to teach them as, save for the parents who advocated for their children relentlessly, there was no accountability. So these children colored a lot, became adults, and pretty much became wards of the welfare state.
NCLB mandated these children be included in assessments and by doing so, school districts have to actually teach them. Assesments are brokens into categories of the aggregate and sub-aggregates. Special needs children are measured against themselves for AYP, not the aggregate. All children are capable of learning. Teaching special needs children enables them to be productive members of their communities as adults.
School Districts aren't meeting AYP? Then they should lose their funding (and of course they don't - one part of NCLB that is never enforced). Throwing more money on a failed system is not the answer.
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Lie once, lie twice.
And your so called research couldn't have been done over there at NU ?
I never called this research.
And yes, I did discuss it over there.
Have you backtracked and told all your fellow NUers that you've changed your mind?
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When I wanted to see where she stood on certain issues, I found little to nothing. It occured to me that some of that might be because of her unique location. For example, I haven't found very much on her ideas regarding education outside of supporting vouchers and "accountability". I'd like to hear more on what she means by accountablity. Is she just for holding kids back a grade or is she for giving those students additional help in those subjects being struggled in? She seems to concentrate a lot on energy, which is good. I wish she'd discuss the other subjects more.
You expect the VPOTUS to express views on academic policy? Accountability is administrative policy, mot academic.
Thanks for once againshowing us just how vapid libtards can be.
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Hehe. Actually, I am voting McCain this year. One of the reasons is that I actually do like Palin. She has a lot of girl power. I just enjoy making the devil advocates arguments. I also get interested in seeing if anybody can address my points or vice versa.
Liar.
And your (talking) points are so many baby blocks, easily addressed but better dismissed.