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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: RuralNc on September 22, 2022, 08:55:05 PM
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217185304
Nevilledog (42,388 posts)
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“There is no such thing as a heartbeat at six weeks,” Abrams said. “It is a manufactured sound designed to convince people that men have the right to take control of a woman’s body away from her.”
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This is quite possibly the stupidest...
Lurking Muppets. Want to know why Dr. Stacey isnt popular in Georgia? Its because she is an idiot. Thats why. The actual Dr. at places such as Johns Hopkins would beg to disagree. I damn well trust them over your precious Dr. Stacey.
But Abrams is correct that there’s no real heartbeat that early in pregnancy. Not only do six-week embryos not have hearts, but the sound of pulsing cells that will eventually become a heart “is created by the [ultrasound] machine itself, which translates the waves of electrical activity into something audible,” per the New York Times. It is, really and truly, a manufactured sound.
And this statement is simply wrong. Ultrasounds use sound waves, not electrical activity.
SheltieLover (46,850 posts)
2. How dare a woooman of color contradict their lies!
Goooooooo Stacey!!!
How stupid are you? Contradict who? What lies? I thought you Muppets believed in Science?
underpants (171,953 posts)
4. Okay I did NOT know that
I had no idea.
Deuxcents (7,218 posts)
6. Me, either. I'm glad Ms Abrams set the facts
For sure, heads are gonna explode 🤯
It just goes on and on. The Muppets marvel that Dr. Stacey has set the facts straight. :whatever:
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You want information about Stacey Abrams? She has no platform to speak of, and she's going to lose. Again.
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That they defend that nonsense proves to the world they’re a cult.
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"Follow the science" becomes "make up the science" as is typical for a liberal.
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Funny how a while back it was great that a moonbat couldn't define "woman" cause she wasn't a biologist, and now Abrams is applauded for defining "heartbeat" without being a doctor. Firmly believing whatever is useful at any given moment.
Also funny, this ad that popped up while looking at the DUmp...
(https://i.ibb.co/Cs2LMCx/interesting-DUmp-ad.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bRJt2wp)
Bet that made some hearts skip :rofl:
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'Fact' Checker Glenn Kessler Claims Fetal Heartbeat Is a 'Misnomer,' Instantly Regrets Getting Out of Bed Today
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2022/09/22/fact-checker-glenn-kessler-claims-fetal-heartbeat-is-a-misnomer-instantly-regrets-getting-out-of-bed-today-n1631511 (https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2022/09/22/fact-checker-glenn-kessler-claims-fetal-heartbeat-is-a-misnomer-instantly-regrets-getting-out-of-bed-today-n1631511)
Kessler weighed in with, “FWIW, ‘fetal heartbeat’ is a misnomer. The ultrasound picks up electrical activity generated by an embryo.”
“The so-called ‘heartbeat’ sound you hear is created by the ultrasound,” he added. “Not until 10 weeks can the opening and closing of cardiac valves be detected by a Doppler machine.”
Apparently, a memo went out on the Left this week with the new pro-abortion talking point to justify the murder of unborn children. Dr. Stacey Abrams, M.D., and Kessler wasted no time running to Twitter to shout the New Abortion Narrative.
(Embedded Tweet)
Radiologist Pradheep J. Shanker quickly pointed out that Kessler has no idea what he is talking about:
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He said the NPR article Kessler cited was wrong. “Ultrasound only detects density and motion. It cannot detect any electrical activity at all. This is a scientific fact,” Shanker declared. “It is true that the valves in the heart develop later. However, the cardiac muscles that are located in the embryological heart are contracting. They are in fact moving inward and outward. That is how you define a beat.”
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Townhall’s Kurt Schlichter offered this inconvenient truth:
So you’re saying the embryo is generating electrical activity which means it’s… alive.
Talk about a fact check that bites you in the ass. https://t.co/49PwThwoVM
— Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) September 22, 2022
So Stacy's claim, probably based on NPR's or NYT's article is false, and as Schlicter pointed out, even if correct, would prove the human fetus is alive.
:tongue: :rotf: Progs - whether in the MSM or pols - don't think through their talking points! :rotf: :tongue:
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JanMichael (24,218 posts)
14. While she is correct...I don't care if one is heard at 5 months. Irrelevant.
Evil, satanic mfers.
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JanMichael (24,218 posts)
14. While she is correct...I don't care if one is heard at 5 months. Irrelevant.
Evil, satanic mfers.
Honest at least.
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JanMichael (24,218 posts)
14. While she is correct...I don't care if one is heard at 5 months. Irrelevant.
Many/Most Pro-Abortion people want abortion to be legal up to the point of the baby having completed their exit from the birth canal. BTW, a significant % of preemies born at 5 months' gestation survive, also "Irrelevant" to Pro-Aborts like JanMichael.
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Funny how a while back it was great that a moonbat couldn't define "woman" cause she wasn't a biologist, and now Abrams is applauded for defining "heartbeat" without being a doctor. Firmly believing whatever is useful at any given moment.
Also funny, this ad that popped up while looking at the DUmp...
(https://i.ibb.co/Cs2LMCx/interesting-DUmp-ad.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bRJt2wp)
Bet that made some hearts skip :rofl:
AdBot is still the undefeated master at trolling the DUmp Monkies...
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'Fact' Checker Glenn Kessler Claims Fetal Heartbeat Is a 'Misnomer,' Instantly Regrets Getting Out of Bed Today
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2022/09/22/fact-checker-glenn-kessler-claims-fetal-heartbeat-is-a-misnomer-instantly-regrets-getting-out-of-bed-today-n1631511 (https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2022/09/22/fact-checker-glenn-kessler-claims-fetal-heartbeat-is-a-misnomer-instantly-regrets-getting-out-of-bed-today-n1631511)Kessler weighed in with, “FWIW, ‘fetal heartbeat’ is a misnomer. The ultrasound picks up electrical activity generated by an embryo.”
“The so-called ‘heartbeat’ sound you hear is created by the ultrasound,” he added. “Not until 10 weeks can the opening and closing of cardiac valves be detected by a Doppler machine.”
Apparently, a memo went out on the Left this week with the new pro-abortion talking point to justify the murder of unborn children. Dr. Stacey Abrams, M.D., and Kessler wasted no time running to Twitter to shout the New Abortion Narrative.
(Embedded Tweet)
Radiologist Pradheep J. Shanker quickly pointed out that Kessler has no idea what he is talking about:
(Embedded Tweet)
He said the NPR article Kessler cited was wrong. “Ultrasound only detects density and motion. It cannot detect any electrical activity at all. This is a scientific fact,” Shanker declared. “It is true that the valves in the heart develop later. However, the cardiac muscles that are located in the embryological heart are contracting. They are in fact moving inward and outward. That is how you define a beat.”
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Townhall’s Kurt Schlichter offered this inconvenient truth:
So you’re saying the embryo is generating electrical activity which means it’s… alive.
Talk about a fact check that bites you in the ass. https://t.co/49PwThwoVM
— Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) September 22, 2022
So Stacy's claim, probably based on NPR's or NYT's article is false, and as Schlicter pointed out, even if correct, would prove the human fetus is alive.
:tongue: :rotf: Progs - whether in the MSM or pols - don't think through their talking points! :rotf: :tongue:
The "pro-science left", everyone.
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Many/Most Pro-Abortion people want abortion to be legal up to the point of the baby having completed their exit from the birth canal. BTW, a significant % of preemies born at 5 months' gestation survive, also "Irrelevant" to Pro-Aborts like JanMichael.
Or, im California, after. To the left "infanticide" sb relabeled "late term abortion."
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So to summarize, Abrams not only didn't correct disinformation, she added some really bizarre disinfo of her own.