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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on August 11, 2022, 09:59:22 AM
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Novara (3,894 posts)
Karma
It's looking probable that the orange **** will be prosecuted for the FELONY of stealing - and holding - classified information, made a FELONY by his own action as "president."
Karma in action, folks.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217027332
You know nothing about karma. Go **** yourself.
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Since a President can move documents to wherever he happens to be, that, by definition, is not stealing. Trump and his people were working with the National Archives over the remaining documents in his custody. The FBI made those negotiations bad-faith. That they were stored under lock-and-key in a basement was at the Archives request. AFAIK, Melania's clothes closet was not in that room.
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Uh... no. It's looking like this could backfire spectacularly in the faces of the dems. Karma in action, folks.
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Uh... no. It's looking like this could backfire spectacularly in the faces of the dems. Karma in action, folks.
For now, it sounds like more people are POed by the raid than are Snoopy-Dancing over the raid. And in between are people who have suspended judgment until the FBI and "Justice" Department do a lot of 'splainin', people who are probably more likely to join those who are POed than those who are Snoopy-Dancing. I'm not expecting a LIEden-shattering KABOOM! in November (not that I'd mind being proved wrong), but I think this raid will prove very harmful to the Dems. And to Trump-Hating RINOs who haven't yet been primaried out.
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in between are people who have suspended judgment until the FBI and "Justice" Department do a lot of 'splainin', people who are probably more likely to join those who are POed
That's where I'm sitting right now. I'm pretty pissed off, but my rational side is telling me to wait and see what they show. And it better be damned good, and it had better be a grave offense by Trump that warranted this action. And I'm not going to accept "it's so top secret, we can't show you". That'll be the dead giveaway in my eyes.
These swamp mo#$%#@$%ers have a long row to hoe before they ever see a glimpse of trust from me again.
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Novara (3,894 posts)
Karma
It's looking probable that the orange **** will be prosecuted for the FELONY of stealing - and holding - classified information, made a FELONY by his own action as "president."
Karma in action, folks.
Karma would seeing Obama getting the same treatment for doing worse regarding withholding documents.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/08/11/when-will-the-fbi-raid-obamas-home-over-his-missing-records-n2611588
And yet the accumulation of recent congressional testimony has made it clear that the Obama administration itself engaged in the wholesale destruction and “loss” of tens of thousands of government records covered under the act as well as the intentional evasion of the government records recording system by engaging in private email exchanges. So far, former President Obama, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, former Attorney General Lynch and several EPA officials have been named as offenders. The IRS suffered record “losses” as well. Former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy called it “an unauthorized private communications system for official business for the patent purpose of defeating federal record-keeping and disclosure laws.”
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I'm in the POed realm, but if evidence that both the search warrant and the manner in which the raid was carried out - doing it while the Trumps and National archives have been working cooperatively, 30 agents swarming the home, searching far more than the area the documents were known to be secured, demanding that security cameras be shut down, refusing Trump's lawyers' request to be allowed in the building, making sure to do it when Trump was hundreds of miles away, "guarding" the building with agents carrying M4 carbines (M$s are select-fire, not simply semi-automatic) - were justified and proportional, I can adjust to reality. Need I say I do not expect to have a reality requiring such an adjustment?
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Karma would seeing Obama getting the same treatment for doing worse regarding withholding documents.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/08/11/when-will-the-fbi-raid-obamas-home-over-his-missing-records-n2611588
And yet the accumulation of recent congressional testimony has made it clear that the Obama administration itself engaged in the wholesale destruction and “loss” of tens of thousands of government records covered under the act as well as the intentional evasion of the government records recording system by engaging in private email exchanges. So far, former President Obama, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, former Attorney General Lynch and several EPA officials have been named as offenders. The IRS suffered record “losses” as well. Former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy called it “an unauthorized private communications system for official business for the patent purpose of defeating federal record-keeping and disclosure laws.”
That's (D)ifferent...
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That's (D)ifferent...
And that's a HI5!