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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: RuralNc on July 08, 2022, 06:52:26 AM
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brush (42,317 posts)
We need to fix the Constitution.
The Constitution was written by white, male slaveholders whose wives were their property and who couldn't vote. And too many Americans see the document as infallible. Of course it's not. It's a great framework but has flaws (the most obvious being the 2nd Amendment and Scalia's Heller decision on it) and needs modernizing and made easier to amend so that it becomes a living, breathing document that allows the nation to progress as times progress.
And speaking of amendments, the lifetime tenure of Supreme Court justices needs looking at as the present SCOTUS Taliban 6 are running amuck, snatching women's rights, defanging the EPA, making it even easier for guns to be carried openly in public which of course means a new mass shooting even more frequently.
And they're not finished yet as they've promised to take on a case in the next session to decide if state legislatures can toss our election results that don't please them. And that's not all as Uncle Clarence has threaten to review decisions on contraception, same-sex relationshipss, and same-sex marriage.
We're in trouble. The document is not sacrosanct and we should start talking up the need to make it easier to correct its flaws.
For the lurking Dummies. I would highly encourage you to read the printed works of our founding fathers. You might learn something.
About Slavery. During the founding, the states north of Maryland, abolished Slavery. The Founding Fathers wrote tirelessly about eradicating Slavery. They wanted to see it come to an end.
Wives as Property. No. This is simply not true. And I might note, Women were voting as early as 1790s in New Jersey, alone. The Founding Fathers did believe in Traditional Family Values, such as normal Male Female relationships. Having Children, etc. Going to Church on Sunday. Which we know you Morons hate more then anything.
2nd Amendment. Sorry that triggers you. But, grow up. We have a right to defend ourselves.
About Amendments. Did you ever consider that there is maybe a reason its difficult to amend? Ill shed some light on that. Ill also make this simple for your little pea brains to understand. Its difficult to amend, so as to not be effected by the daily hurt feelings of people like you.
It goes on and on with their delusional pipedream, then this nugget from the community pigperson
BigmanPigman (46,539 posts)
12. We need to get rid of the Electoral College.
No. Just no. Much like above, its been explained time, and time again.
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You "fix" the Constitution by amending it. There are rules for how that takes place. And seeing how you lefties claim to be all about the "rule of law", that should be OK with you.
So hop to it.
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BigmanPigman (46,539 posts)
12. We need to get rid of the Electoral College.
To the contrary: We need a form of electoral college at the state level in each state, to keep the cities from running roughshod over the countryside.
We live in a republic, not a democracy.
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To the contrary: We need a form of electoral college at the state level in each state, to keep the cities from running roughshod over the countryside.
We live in a republic, not a democracy.
Were it not for the electoral college, people in Kansas would be forced to live the way people in Queens think they should live. The will of freaks like AOC would be imposed on people who have never and will never live her way, with her values. If you want to grease the skids for a civil war, make LA and New York decide every election. Let's see how that goes.
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BigmanPigman (46,539 posts)
12. We need to get rid of the Electoral College.
Yeah, and then watch states bow the hell out of "These" United States. Good idea.
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Yeah, and then watch states bow the hell out of "These" United States. Good idea.
Ya know, I never considered that point. I think that if anything caused Secession, that would be the most likely culprit. Well, maybe an AOC/Abrams ticket.. :panic:
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Ya know, I never considered that point. I think that if anything caused Secession, that would be the most likely culprit. Well, maybe an AOC/Abrams ticket.. :panic:
There is no equal representation among the states if a few major cities determine the outcome of every single election. Matter of fact, the 17th amendment needs to also be repealed.
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BigmanPigman (46,539 posts)
12. We need to get rid of the Electoral Liberal Colleges that fill our youth's heads with liberal bull shit..
:thatsright:
Fixed it :lmao: :lmao:
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To the contrary: We need a form of electoral college at the state level in each state, to keep the cities from running roughshod over the countryside.
We live in a republic, not a democracy.
Andrew Willow has been pushing that idea for years. I totally agree with it as Raleigh and Charlotte rule NC.
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The 2A is just a notice of a Declaration of Independence to put the federal government on notice from the beginning if ever needed
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To the contrary: We need a form of electoral college at the state level in each state, to keep the cities from running roughshod over the countryside.
We live in a republic, not a democracy.
H5!!!!!
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brush (42,317 posts)
We need to fix the Constitution.
The Constitution was written by white, male slaveholders whose wives were their property and who couldn't vote. And too many Americans see the document as infallible. Of course it's not. It's a great framework but has flaws (the most obvious being the 2nd Amendment and Scalia's Heller decision on it) and needs modernizing and made easier to amend so that it becomes a living, breathing document that allows the nation to progress as times progress.
That's an interesting - if utterly bullshit - proposition, DUmbshit. There's an established procedure for doing that - put in place by those eee-vil white, male slaveholders, no less. Two actually; but they both require the same levels of support for your sick fantasy utopia visions for America.
See; any Constitutional changes anybody wants to make, needs the ratification (approval, for those of you DUmbasses in Rio Linda) from 3/4 of the state legislatures. Therein lies the problem for you mouth-breathing imbeciles: as things currently stand, the political masters of you pea-wits currently control 13 out of 50 state legislatures. Your opposition controls 37 out of 50. 3/4 of the 50 states would be 38 states. And your political masters are currently doing everything possible to ensure that the groundswell AGAINST you imbeciles in November will be spoken of in hushed, fearful tones by you morons for a hundred years afterward.
Good luck convincing 25 state legislatures to swing your way, Buckwheat... :popcorn: