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Title: NPR reporter says 'leading theory' on SCOTUS leak is conservative clerk
Post by: dutch508 on May 09, 2022, 09:07:06 AM
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Star Member kpete (69,071 posts)
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NPR reporter says 'leading theory' on SCOTUS leak is conservative clerk

A clerk for a conservative justice is the “leading theory” amid intense speculation about who released a draft opinion authored by Justice Samuel Alito showing the court is set to overturn Roe v. Wade, according to legal affairs correspondent Nina Totenberg of NPR.

Totenberg said on ABC’s “This Week” that the prevailing theory is that a conservative clerk released the decision in an attempt to lock in the five justices who voted to support overturning Roe as Chief Justice John Roberts reportedly attempts to pull his colleagues toward a more moderate position.

“That has never, ever occurred before,” Totenberg said of the leak. “That could only, in all likelihood, have come from a justice — that I think is less likely — or perhaps one of the clerks.”

“The only one that makes sense is it came from somebody who was afraid that this majority might not hold,” she added.

except, of course... without the leak there wouldn't be any fear of the vote changing as there would be no pressure to change... because no one knew about it.

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Star Member CrispyQ (31,798 posts)

1. I'm still betting it's Ginni.

At any rate, if it is a conservative who leaked, we'll never find out for sure, but if it's a lib who leaked, that info will be released.

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Star Member onenote (37,057 posts)

5. I'm not convinced by the "lock in the conservatives" theory.

What difference would it make? Whether or not one or more of the conservatives is convinced by Roberts to pull back from overturning Roe, Alito will still issue his opinion and several justices will join it. What difference will it make that they may have initially voted to go further but then backed away? It happens all the time in the drafting of Supreme Court opinions.

To me, someone wanting to expose how radical the position is of those favoring overturning Roe seems like a more probable candidate for leaking it.

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Star Member Hoyt (54,303 posts)

6. Yep. I don't buy the "lock in conservatives" theory either. Anyone favoring Alito's Middle Ages view would likely keep their heads down, mouths shut, and hope it sails through to final version. Seems more likely someone shocked by the whole approach seems, assuming it's not just someone wanting the be then next Annonymous, Snowden, etc.

But, nowadays who knows what is going on or the rationale behind things.

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Star Member underpants (169,180 posts)

7. If Totenberg reported it I believe it

She’s been reporting for too long to stick her neck out.

The unified distracting projection from the right was telling.

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Star Member nuxvomica (10,506 posts)

9. The leak also serves to make the opinion appear more grounded

There's a lot of speculation about this opinion and what it's ramifications are but what is missing from the conversation are the dissents by Alito's peers. This is a very poorly researched and bone-headed piece of judicial writing, so badly thought out the author feels compelled to include a disclaimer that it doesn't vacate other rights despite exploding the right of privacy so fundamental to other rights. Now imagine how devastating the dissents are likely to be? They would probably pick apart the logic, reasoning and citations in this opinion mercilessly. But we don't get to see those dissents so Alito's opinion gets to have a one-sided conversation without any peer review, giving it a respectability it could not have under normal circumstances. I bet many people think the entire court is on-board. This is similar to Barr's "summarizing" the Mueller Report to have its conclusions skewed in the public's mindset. I think this is what's meant by "catapulting the propaganda."

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FM123 (9,454 posts)

10. Could be....

I guess they didn't want one of the conservative justices to pull a "John Roberts" at the last minute like he did with Obamacare.

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Title: Re: NPR reporter says 'leading theory' on SCOTUS leak is conservative clerk
Post by: SVPete on May 09, 2022, 09:31:40 AM
A conservative clerk would leak so as to bring public and media outrage against conservative justices, bring Pro-Abortion activists to protest in front of conservative justices' homes, invite death threats against conservative justices and their families, and get Pro-Abortion activists to disrupt church services and vandalize churches?

Yeah, I can see how that would make sense to NPR journalist-partisans an DUpipo.
Title: Re: NPR reporter says 'leading theory' on SCOTUS leak is conservative clerk
Post by: FlaGator on May 09, 2022, 10:44:37 AM
Because we know how honest and truthful liberal reporters are.
Title: Re: NPR reporter says 'leading theory' on SCOTUS leak is conservative clerk
Post by: jukin on May 09, 2022, 12:44:24 PM
NPR is communist propaganda.

That. Is. All.
Title: Re: NPR reporter says 'leading theory' on SCOTUS leak is conservative clerk
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on May 09, 2022, 12:55:41 PM
except, of course... without the leak there wouldn't be any fear of the vote changing as there would be no pressure to change... because no one knew about it.

 :whatever:

 :thatsright:

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

 :whatever:

 :yawn:

Here is how you know it's NOT a conservative:

- IF it was a conservative, they'd have already been outed and it would be a 24/7/365 media news item

- IF it was a liberal their identity will be protected and the story will slowly die.

Believe me, people know who the leaker is, including those that have the power to order something like that. Jugears, Hitlary and others come to mind including the FIB.
Title: Re: NPR reporter says 'leading theory' on SCOTUS leak is conservative clerk
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on May 09, 2022, 02:14:16 PM
Of course "leading NPR Reporter" Nina Totenberg probably thought that President Trump colluded with Russia, the Hunter Biden laptop from hell was Russian disinformation, Kyle Rittenhouse killed three unarmed black protesters in Kenosha, the Chinese Wuhan Red Death originated in a wet market, etc., etc., etc.
Title: Re: NPR reporter says 'leading theory' on SCOTUS leak is conservative clerk
Post by: ADsOutburst on May 09, 2022, 03:47:30 PM
The leading theory among...? They don't even say "sources"?
Title: Re: NPR reporter says 'leading theory' on SCOTUS leak is conservative clerk
Post by: Drafe Hoblin on May 09, 2022, 08:44:20 PM
The lack of voter-interest in the draft-opinion proves the leak came from the left.  They screwed-up on the timing.  Republicans don't screw-up on things like timing... or misjudging the public-discourse.