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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Texacon on May 04, 2022, 09:18:34 PM
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216659843
Just saving this to see how the digital Pan handling goes the third or fourth time around.
KC
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216659843
STAR member mvd, begging again.
Couldn't put this up last night.
mvd (63,930 posts)
My mom is about to have her electricity shut off. I created an emergency fundraiser for her
Hi all,
As you might know from before, my mom turns 73 next week and is widowed. She just has her social security as income, and is therefore considered low income. I currently don’t earn an income and she has no other close relatives. She has nowhere to go if her electricity is shut off. She has an anxiety condition, depression and high blood pressure. Recently PECO, her electric company, sent her a ten day shut off notice. The shut off notice is being held by my mom in the fundraiser picture to help show how urgent this is. She just can’t have her electricity shut off. Her doctor agreed and wrote a medical certification, but this only delays the shut off for a short time and the bill still has to be paid. This is a bill that started festering when my dad was still alive - before 2019. His cancer bills and lack of job or savings left us in bad financial shape. My mom and I are unfortunately still in bad shape. She was on a payment plan, but had to miss some payments when tough decisions were required. Now PECO has not offered a new payment plan after numerous calls. LIHEAP wasn’t much help either and is now out of season anyway. I made the goal $1,500 on advice I got at DU. But since the bill is about double that, I will see how the fundraiser goes and can raise the goal some based on that. My mom and I appreciate anything you can give to help out.
Another thing, my mom and I both have our birthdays on May 12, and it would be a much better birthday to not be worried about the electricity. I don’t like doing this and wish I could donate to a lot of GoFundMes. Right now I have applied for disability and want to sell the house (which is in foreclosure) very soon. But we have no way to cover this emergency expense.
Here is the link to my fundraiser:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-keep-my-moms-electricity-on
Thank you very, very much!
-Matt/mvd
This dude (dud?) has done this several times on DU and each time he just needs a 'little money' to get them through until mom gets her check then he won't beg anymore. He gets called out, admits his problem, and they still donate. :rotf:
BlackSkimmer (45,658 posts)
5. Isn't this the third time you've done this?
I’m just curious because the last time you said that you just needed money this “one time” and all would be fine.
mvd (63,930 posts)
8. It is but I thought she had a payment arrangement..
for this bill. So I didn’t mention it. If this bill is handled, the budgeting my mom have done should at least help us afloat. We’re going to have to live within our means. It will take more than a fundraiser to change that.
I have no problems answering concerns when they arise.
BlackSkimmer (45,658 posts)
13. Yes, living within one's means is important.
Did you say her bill is over $1000? That’s insane.
mvd (63,930 posts)
14. Unfortunately. It has been growing since..
My dad was alive. He died in January 2019. I still miss him greatly.
BlackSkimmer (45,658 posts)
17. So if you "thought" she had a payment plan, what happened?
Did she not?
I know our electric companies here work with people who are in dire straits. I donate money on my bill every month for that program.
mvd (63,930 posts)
18. PECO is not a very good company
In the US, many private electric companies just care about the money despite record profits. When she had to miss a few payments, the plan was taken away.
It's all the electric companies fault! They made a deal that mvd's mom reneged on and those bastards are going to turn her electricity off. In the words of our (in)famous VP "How dare they!"
Indykatie (3,148 posts)
25. Black Magic Marker Should Take Care of That.
You need to know that if this is your 3rd? time asking for $$$ on DU you have an obligation to document your dire need. It seems like you've gone out of your way to hide any relevant information on the bill but had no problem putting your mom's picture on the internet.
Even the top part of the bill would probably suffice since it probably contains demand for payment and shut off date.
BlackSkimmer (45,658 posts)
34. Yes, everything you said.
No problem putting mom’s face on the internet, though with a mask. Odd, since they are in each other’s bubble so to speak, and they have no interaction with friends or family?
How is an electric bill over $3000?
mvd (63,930 posts)
42. I explained how it is that much
It wasn’t being paid because of problems ever since my dad was alive. During COVID they were not shutting off and we still were in trouble.
As for family, we drifted apart. It happens. The family I was closest to has died, and one that was somewhat close also drifted away.
Let me translate that bolded part; "They got tired of me begging for money and disowned us!"
mvd (63,930 posts)
43. Mom is in bed now but I can change it tomorrow
I didn’t think of the marker thing. That’s a good idea. I understand if some want to see the amount. There is nothing to hide. My mom put the mask on because she is private and sensitive to such things.
She's tired of you using her to beg for weed money.
mvd (63,930 posts)
24. Thank you. All of it helps!
Much appreciated. I have a question for you: as said, the bill is around $3,000. But I wanted to start with a $1,500 goal. Would you move up the goal or just note that I am keeping things open due to the amount of the bill?
Same line he used the last couple of begathons.
mvd (63,930 posts)
28. So very true
I filed for disability in November and I just have my evaluation Zoom call coming this month. I am listing a few things, but as you said, they make it hard. All of what you said is worth considering. Sorry to hear about your health issues. Sending my best wishes.
He's gotten used to the free money and now wants to force the rest of us to pay his bills.
mvd (63,930 posts)
39. For now I am leaving it open with the statement that..
$1500 is just a soft goal. If I could get it to close to the bill amount near $3000, I would be beyond grateful.
mvd (63,930 posts)
46. Thank you
I have a few things I can use:
- autism
- nearly deaf without hearing aids
- physical limitations and arthritis
It’s good to see a positive story. And thank you very much for donating. I am only in my 40s so can’t get Medicare yet.
XanaDUer2 (4,858 posts)
48. Thanks for the positive ssdi story
It gives me hope. I'm not giving up. I have a good lawyer and great doctors.
North Shore Chicago (2,664 posts)
47. Hugs to you and your mom
Wish folks here would stop giving you a hard time, they can either help or not. No
one is forcing them and they need not be the gofund me police.
That said, my good thoughts and a positive outcome to your current situation.
:rofl:
KC
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I just looked at that picture on gofundme and if the monthly bill is $140.00 but they owe $3,500.00, they haven't been paying that bill for a very long time. He wants to complain about PECO?! How long does he think a utility provider should let them skate?
KC
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...How long does he think a utility provider should let them skate?
KC
S/h/it's a DUmmy, so it's fair to assume they think utility companies shouldn't be charging for their service at all. Ever...
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Oh good God.
mvd (63,930 posts)
46. Thank you
I have a few things I can use:
- autism
- nearly deaf without hearing aids
- physical limitations and arthritis
You mean to tell me that I spent fifty years of my life, beginning when I was twelve, working, when I could've just gotten on board the disability gravy train?
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Oh good God.
You mean to tell me that I spent fifty years of my life, beginning when I was twelve, working, when I could've just gotten on board the disability gravy train?
Never knew the good thing you coulda had, didja Frank? [/DUmp Monkey] :whatever:
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Oh good God.
You mean to tell me that I spent fifty years of my life, beginning when I was twelve, working, when I could've just gotten on board the disability gravy train?
You were the first person I thought of when I read that.
KC
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A mother and her 40yo leach both living off of SS and now trying to scam its way into SSDI. :censored:
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I just looked at that picture on gofundme and if the monthly bill is $140.00 but they owe $3,500.00, they haven't been paying that bill for a very long time. He wants to complain about PECO?! How long does he think a utility provider should let them skate?
KC
I was going to post that one-time charity acts can't solve a long-term problem. ASSuming this is not a total scam, if her current mo'ly bill is $140 and the total balance is $3500, that balance has been building up for as long as 25 months (maybe on the order of 18 months if that mo'ly is on the low side of her usage range). A one-time GoFundMe will only pay down a bill that has been accumulating for a long time, and will start building up again with the mo'ly following the GoFundMe. I think most DU-folk realize or could realize this.
ASSuming this is not a total scam, mvd and any other family need to make huge significant (and probably painful) changes in Mom's life and lifestyle.
OTOH, there definitely are scamsters "out there" who leech $$ off people's sympathies, and semi-psychopathic narcissists who play Perils of (fictional) Pauline with their targets' mental sympathies.
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mvd (63,930 posts)
18. PECO is not a very good company
In the US, many private electric companies just care about the money despite record profits. When she had to miss a few payments, the plan was taken away.
Maybe Texas is different from California in this respect, but in California utilities' profits are capped by a regulatory agency. So I'm calling :bs2flag: on "record profits". It's just typical Prog bogeymanizing of businesses who earn their profits by providing a desired/needed product or service.
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I was going to post that one-time charity acts can't solve a long-term problem. ASSuming this is not a total scam, if her current mo'ly bill is $140 and the total balance is $3500, that balance has been building up for as long as 25 months (maybe on the order of 18 months if that mo'ly is on the low side of her usage range). A one-time GoFundMe will only pay down a bill that has been accumulating for a long time, and will start building up again with the mo'ly following the GoFundMe. I think most DU-folk realize or could realize this.
ASSuming this is not a total scam, mvd and any other family need to make huge significant (and probably painful) changes in Mom's life and lifestyle.
OTOH, there definitely are scamsters "out there" who leech $$ off people's sympathies, and semi-psychopathic narcissists who play Perils of (fictional) Pauline with their targets' mental sympathies.
My personal opinion on mvd is the scam is for him. I think he just uses mom to gain sympathy. That is the 3rd, or possibly 4th time and each time it's the same ol' same ol'. Ask for a little, and only this ONE time, then start asking people on the thread if he should raise the amount. It's like he's feeling out the room to see if he thinks he could get just a little more.
If my search skills were up to it, I would find his other begging threads and bring them over.
KC
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$3,000 power bill? Bullshit lol. I live in a 2,000 sq ft block home in Florida and before I replaced my very old unit, probably a SEER -42 if they even did SEER back then, my highest bill was $450 and I run the AC constantly. $4,000 would be about 7 months of bills. Where does his mother live, a shopping mall?
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My personal opinion on mvd is the scam is for him. I think he just uses mom to gain sympathy. That is the 3rd, or possibly 4th time and each time it's the same ol' same ol'. Ask for a little, and only this ONE time, then start asking people on the thread if he should raise the amount. It's like he's feeling out the room to see if he thinks he could get just a little more.
If my search skills were up to it, I would find his other begging threads and bring them over.
KC
Update to my GoFundMe fundraiser
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215946390 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215946390)
My mom needs urgent help. My GoFundMe is included in this thread
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100215909861 (https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100215909861)
Thank you very much and this will help
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15910369 (https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15910369)
My mother is requesting immediate help
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216254697 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216254697)
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MVD could very well be a very good mole scamming the DUmmies out of the government check dollars they receive on first of the month.
Past scams have occurred around the beginning of the month. Just sayin. :-)
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Update to my GoFundMe fundraiser
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215946390 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215946390)
My mom needs urgent help. My GoFundMe is included in this thread
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100215909861 (https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100215909861)
Thank you very much and this will help
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15910369 (https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15910369)
My mother is requesting immediate help
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216254697 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216254697)
Perfect! Thanks FZ.
KC
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Update to my GoFundMe fundraiser
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215946390 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215946390)
My mom needs urgent help. My GoFundMe is included in this thread
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100215909861 (https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100215909861)
Thank you very much and this will help
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15910369 (https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15910369)
My mother is requesting immediate help
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216254697 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216254697)
:rofl:
Hi5 for you and Texacon for that title. Very appropriate.
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Maybe Texas is different from California in this respect, but in California utilities' profits are capped by a regulatory agency. So I'm calling :bs2flag: on "record profits". It's just typical Prog bogeymanizing of businesses who earn their profits by providing a desired/needed product or service.
I think he's in PA, not TX.
KC
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If my search skills were up to it, I would find his other begging threads and bring them over.
I'm not a DU-member, so I can't search the Island, but there's this Cave thread from January 2022, https://conservativecave.com/cave/index.php?topic=127864.0 . Evidently mvd dates back at least to 2008, and has been a Mod on the Island at times.
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This is from his second run at DU looking to grift
mvd (63,931 posts)
11. Also..
While I am not changing the goal this time, I really could use as much as possible for mom. It’s the last one of this kind I am doing at DU (I have some plans in motion) so as much as you can give is greatly appreciated.
:lmao:
KC
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Also in that January 2022 beg-thread, "When I put on a GoFundMe fundraiser for my mom in October, DU was absolutely wonderful and caring. "When I put on a GoFundMe fundraiser for my mom in October, DU was absolutely ..."
So 3 begathons in about 7 months. He also claimed in that January thread that he had plans in motion for a remedy. Guess those plans, 4 months later haven't come to fruition. I wonder if those "plans" are some sort of SSDI or other government disability application/program.
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Also in that January 2022 beg-thread, "When I put on a GoFundMe fundraiser for my mom in October, DU was absolutely wonderful and caring. "When I put on a GoFundMe fundraiser for my mom in October, DU was absolutely ..."
So 3 begathons in about 7 months. He also claimed in that January thread that he had plans in motion for a remedy. Guess those plans, 4 months later haven't come to fruition. I wonder if those "plans" are some sort of SSDI or other government disability application/program.
Yes they are. He mentions it in the thread on this last begathon. He says he applied to SSDI in November and he's just now getting his hearing.
His picture is on one of those gofundme pages. He looks like the loser you think he would look like.
KC
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This guy isn't the first serial panhandler on Skins' island.
This thread from 2014 mentions the stewert primitive.
I believe however that my great and good friend GOBUCKS erred when saying that ColesCountyDem and stewert were one and the same.
ColesCountyDem, a great and good and chummy friend of Omaha Steve, was (is) the guy on the sexual offender registry in Illinois.
stewert was the lazy slob who lived in his late father's house rent-free. His brother, who had inherited the house, after a couple of years decided to sell it. Only God now knows what happened to the stewert primitive.
I dunno how many times it happened--like maybe five or six--stewert did his panhandling job, until the primitives finally saw something, and chased him away. The guy never posted about anything else, just his gofundme pleas.
https://conservativecave.com/cave/index.php?topic=97544.0
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I think he's in PA, not TX.
KC
I think that is correct.
I don't know what made me think of this but our electric utility (PP&L) just announced a 35% rate hike.
https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/lehighvalley/ppl-set-to-increase-default-rates-many-customers-pay-for-electricity-supply/article_def65b26-cb1c-11ec-a8c0-23c296f951f8.html
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I think that is correct.
I don't know what made me think of this but our electric utility (PP&L) just announced a 35% rate hike.
https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/lehighvalley/ppl-set-to-increase-default-rates-many-customers-pay-for-electricity-supply/article_def65b26-cb1c-11ec-a8c0-23c296f951f8.html
Holy smoke! That's got to hurt.
KC
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This guy isn't the first serial panhandler on Skins' island.
This thread from 2014 mentions the stewert primitive.
I believe however that my great and good friend GOBUCKS erred when saying that ColesCountyDem and stewert were one and the same.
ColesCountyDem, a great and good and chummy friend of Omaha Steve, was (is) the guy on the sexual offender registry in Illinois.
stewert was the lazy slob who lived in his late father's house rent-free. His brother, who had inherited the house, after a couple of years decided to sell it. Only God now knows what happened to the stewert primitive.
I dunno how many times it happened--like maybe five or six--stewert did his panhandling job, until the primitives finally saw something, and chased him away. The guy never posted about anything else, just his gofundme pleas.
https://conservativecave.com/cave/index.php?topic=97544.0
2014 and 2021. Hmm, those two years have something in common. :confused:
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Holy smoke! That's got to hurt.
KC
PPL is about half of our electric bill as they don't generate power anymore. We shop around every year and find the best deal on the actual electrons, this year the best I could find was another 10% for the power aspect.
We have a 1600 sq ft home there is 4 of us there. On average our electric bill about $105.00 per month. Once we turn in the AC (window units) I expect $200/month.
I'm one of those persons that goes around turning off what others leave on.
I thought I read in this thread where the mom is getting foreclosed? So the old man didn't have any kind of life insurance to protect the little lady and the homestead? Is it a bank foreclosure or tax sale?
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I think he's in PA, not TX.
KC
I sit corrected. PA probably has an equivalent of CA's Public Utility Commission - different state, same principle.
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The original (as far as I know) begathon.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/v676x-my-mother-needs-help
Raised 3300.00 but didn't pay the electric bill.
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I don't know what made me think of this but our electric utility (PP&L) just announced a 35% rate hike.
https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/lehighvalley/ppl-set-to-increase-default-rates-many-customers-pay-for-electricity-supply/article_def65b26-cb1c-11ec-a8c0-23c296f951f8.html
Gee, why did I foresee what I highlighted in the article quote below?
"We do not own power plants so we don't generate electricity - we purchase energy, electricity, the same way you that you as a customer can purchase your electricity," said Jane George, Regional Affairs Director for PPL.
She says if you use about a 1000 kilowatt hours a month, it will be about a $34 increase.
"It has to do with general market conditions, overall inflation, the cost of energy sources is increasing, like natural gas," George said.
(https://rlv.zcache.com/biden_i_did_that_funny_anti_biden_sticker-r06e626a2d3764deab2d1ed5550c60681_08m34_630.jpg)
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The original (as far as I know) begathon.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/v676x-my-mother-needs-help
Raised 3300.00 but didn't pay the electric bill.
Newest Playstation, weed, internet, Iphone, fleshlight . $3300 just doesn't go very far anymore.
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mvd (63,936 posts)
57. Based on how quickly the $1500 was reached, I raised the goal to $2,000
The ultimate goal would be $3,000 - which is still less than the amount that I now documented in the fundraiser. But whatever you can do is greatly, greatly appreciated!
Latest :rofl:
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This guy is a piece of shit. His mother 73. He's what, 50? Can't get a job?
For reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLvX1R1Gg94
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The original (as far as I know) begathon.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/v676x-my-mother-needs-help
Raised 3300.00 but didn't pay the electric bill.
The first begathon claimed they hadn’t paid water for months. I get the feeling he’s figured out people have more sympathy if they think you’re doing without a utility rather than straight up asking for money for crack.
Maybe I’m wrong.
KC
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One of his replies in the current thread.
Response to Bluesaph (Reply #59)
Thu May 5, 2022, 03:31 PM
Star Member mvd (63,942 posts)
60. Luckily they are considering the things I mentioned
Severe hearing loss and autism at least in PA can be mentioned. Hard to say if my arthritis is bad enough. I have never been employed, so maybe they will understand why.
I am so sorry about your nephew. Very tragic.
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Even the DUmmies are beginning to notice that he is just using his mother for sympathy. He carefully avoids saying that he lives off of her and provides zero support to their living expenses. In the pictures he's put up of her on GoFundMe she looks like a hostage providing "proof of life". And she really is a hostage. She probably could get by if she didn't have to put up with a deadbeat loser sponging off of her. But she's trapped in a bad situation, because neither she, nor her husband, ever kicked his ass out into the real world. And when she finally passes on he'll have no idea how to survive on his own. I'm always amazed by how many of them proudly proclaim that they never worked a day in their lives, that they still live with their parents, that they pray for the day they can get SSI or SSDI and that they want to blame other people for their lot in life. Sorry DUmmies, when you add no value to a society you shouldn't expect much in return. And there comes a point in your life where your lifestyle choices guarantee that you'll never escape a life of poverty. So DUer's quit complaining about billionaires and accept that fact that the net worth of people like Bill Gates and Elon Musk don't affect your net worth. If you're worthless and rely on the charity of strangers you'll never have financial security. You choose poorly, live with it.
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One of his replies in the current thread.
Wow. Fifty years old and never been employed.
Probably not even as a newspaper boy or grocery carry-out boy.
It boogles my mind, trying to figure out what he did during that vast empty period in his life.
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Wow. Fifty years old and never been employed.
Probably not even as a newspaper boy or grocery carry-out boy.
It boogles my mind, trying to figure out what he did during that vast empty period in his life.
Next up will be demanding a raise to its SSDI check to help improve the lifestyle he has become accustomed to.
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Wow. Fifty years old and never been employed.
Probably not even as a newspaper boy or grocery carry-out boy.
It boogles my mind, trying to figure out what he did during that vast empty period in his life.
Ignoring very occasionally helping my Dad with his farm work, I had my first job at age 16, $1.25/hour doing field work for a seed company in the summer, 8 hours a day (90F-105F every afternoon, not quite picking lettuce in Yuma, but close, and I and other high-schoolers did it)). I'm sure many/most here (possibly excepting DU-Onlurkers, :-) ) started several years earlier (I lived 6 miles from the nearest town, so having a paper route was not practical). Hoeing weeds and bagging safflower flowers (so they would only self-pollinate) wasn't what I wanted to do as a career, but I never viewed that work as "beneath me". By age 20 I was attending college and working at my 4th job.
Next up will be demanding a raise to its SSDI check to help improve the lifestyle he has become accustomed to.
Yeppers, that was the foundation underlying the "Welfare Rights" movement of the 1970s, being entitled to leech off productive people rather than social programs being a safety net.
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You all see all of his kicks starting last night? Last 3 posts :rofl:
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He’s doing the same thing he’s done on his other fund raising. What an artist.
Makes you wonder how many other sites he posts on. He has a full time job just raising funds. LOL
KC
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He's like the Energizer Bunny with the grift :rofl:
mvd (63,946 posts)
65. I'll keep this visible until around our birthday (May 12)..
and then I will see where we are. Thankfully after this is handled, we would have no huge bills that have to be paid. And the help from before on DU has improved things with proper budgeting. I can’t guarantee I will never start another GoFundMe anywhere, but I see no reason for one after this.
Thanks all and the closer I get to the bill amount, the more relief my mom and I will have.
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He's like the Energizer Bunny with the grift :rofl:
:rotf:
He’s telling them he’s seeing his budget up based on the money from DU members! That’s too funny!
He needs to just start being honest in his thread titles. Something like; ok DU, time to pony up! My budget relies on my quarterly gofundme.
KC
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IMPORTANT: If you do not qualify for Social Security payments, then you will need to ensure that you have sufficient income to support your lifestyle in retirement.
https://www.investopedia.com/retirement/8-types-americans-who-wont-get-social-security/#:~:text=A%20minimum%20requirement%20to%20collect%20Social%20Security%20retirement,%22enough%20work%22%20as%20earning%2040%20Social%20Security%20credits.
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IMPORTANT: If you do not qualify for Social Security payments, then you will need to ensure that you have sufficient income to support your lifestyle in retirement.
https://www.investopedia.com/retirement/8-types-americans-who-wont-get-social-security/#:~:text=A%20minimum%20requirement%20to%20collect%20Social%20Security%20retirement,%22enough%20work%22%20as%20earning%2040%20Social%20Security%20credits.
Wow. I never thought about that, what happens when one doesn't ever pay into the system.
So this lazy layabout might reach the age of 65, and have nothing, not a thing, on which to fall back?
Actually, I think that's good news.
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BlackSkimmer (45,658 posts)
5. Isn't this the third time you've done this?
I’m just curious because the last time you said that you just needed money this “one time” and all would be fine.
Try being that critical and questioning of anyone chronically on the public dole at DU and you'll get eaten alive if not outright banned.
Welfare leeches are not to be questioned on their life choices or how they spend their money, lest you be told it's none of your business or you be accused of being some brand of "-ist" for even raising the subject.
Only when they are asked to pony up out of their own pockets do DUmmies become fiscal conservatives.
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I wonder if money from gofundme is taxable income or just considered a gift.
Like mentioned above, this loser is going to lose his mom/income at some point and that’s it. That’s all she wrote. He’ll have nothing.
KC