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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on May 04, 2022, 09:13:17 AM
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Star Member babylonsister (169,180 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216657278
How We Know It Wasn't A Liberal Who Leaked SCOTUS Decision
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/how-we-know-it-wasnt-liberal-who-leaked
How We Know It Wasn't A Liberal Who Leaked SCOTUS Decision
Pay no attention to the right-wing outrage. It was clearly a conservative.
By Susie Madrak — May 4, 2022
Republicans like Ted Cruz and Mitch McConnell are shocked, shocked! that someone would leak Alito's draconian opinion overturning Roe v. Wade. They had their talking points ready, and pointed the finger at "radical leftists" inside the Court. (First clue: The only radicals clerking at the Court are right wingers.)
Joe Scarborough gives a pretty good explanation of why it was actually a pissed-off right winger who leaked the opinion (Morning Joe devoted the first half hour to the topic). He explains it was an attempt to lock in conservative support who might be wavering about the harshness of Alito's decision. That sounds right.
But I'll tell you how I knew: It was leaked to Politico.
Liberals don't leak to Politico, it's not even in the liberal media ecosphere. Liberals leak to the New York Times, or the Washington Post -- or maybe Mother Jones. Not Politico.
But here's the other thing: How did conservatives know the particulars of this decision before the leak? The Wall Street Journal's editorial page (another prominent right-wing mouthpiece) wrote an editorial about it the day before!
And how did Republicans all have their talking points organized so widely, so quickly?
Look: The kind of liberals who clerk at the Court are idealists, not troublemakers. The radical right wingers? We already know they feel entitled to win by any means necessary. This isn't even close.
But it probably wasn't a clerk. The most likely suspect is Ginni Thomas. And John Roberts knows it.
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Star Member yardwork (54,159 posts)
1. I hadn't thought of Ginni Thomas. Sounds very possible.
Maybe it was a victory lap? She's seriously mentally ill, imo.
:thatsright:
Star Member jfz9580m (14,060 posts)
2. There is something to that -Politico is not very popular with liberals.nt
Star Member EYESORE 9001 (20,453 posts)
15. Politico gets cited here on a daily basis
but your point stands.
Buckeyeblue (4,334 posts)
4. That's who I think did it. With Clarence's help.
For her it is both a victory lap and a "you better not change your mind" clinched fist at the others. I wonder if someone was having second thoughts?
But for Ginni, it's a "I told you I could deliver" moment. Every good sales person reminds their client how much they've helped them.
I bet her fee just went up.
Sympthsical (3,725 posts)
8. I don't get why people are writing articles like this
I mean, I know why - clicks and content.
But, I have seen so many articles on this topic. Weirdly enough, the speculation has generally been running towards, "The leaker is someone who will fit my narrative." I mean, the coincidence of it all!
We're going to find out who did it, liberal or conservative. This isn't a secret that's going to be kept. Someone just immolated their career. But it seems like a waste of time to spend so much time on, "Here's my detailed reasoning for why it's someone I want it to be." It's one thing to idly speculate in conversation as many of us have done here (me too).
But man, the sheer volume of ink being spilled over speculating on something we will concretely know sooner rather than later.
Cozmo (1,100 posts)
12. Yup, yup yup Surely Cruz's team couldn't have come up with his diatribe so quickly
:whatever:
Star Member FSogol (42,525 posts)
13. Also, the liberals on the court respect the law and respect traditions on the high court.
The repugs are essentially howler monkeys flinging feces. The leaker is Gini Thomas taking a victory lap.
:whatever:
hueymahl (2,009 posts)
20. I think there is a damn good chance that it was Roberts himself that leaked it
Maybe not Roberts talking to the reporter, but one of his clerks/go-betweens.
Why? Mostly just a gut feeling. Look at how Roberts has ruled recently. Been often the swing vote between liberal and conservative causes. Perception is he is losing control of the court with the heavy conservative bent. Understands the terrible effect this will have not only on the nation but precedent for dozens of other branches of privacy cases. Wants to mold the narrative. Is the face of the court publicly. Thinks this is an important enough issue that this is the best way to pressure the weaker hands of the majority to join his middle route before it is final.
Could be 100% wrong. But we are all shooting in the dark anyway!
Star Member tavernier (10,314 posts)
24. They got caught trying to pull off their usual sneaky BS.
They’re used to getting away with it, but suddenly it’s dawning on them that this time they may have crossed the Rubicon.
Oh well.
:???:
Star Member former9thward (26,041 posts)
25. The WSJ did not write an editorial about this the day before.
That is simply false. I subscribe and its false. I guess that is why there is no link to the allegation.
:yawn:
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Star Member former9thward (26,041 posts)
25. The WSJ did not write an editorial about this the day before.
That is simply false. I subscribe and its false. I guess that is why there is no link to the allegation.
:rotf: Cassandra II speaks. :rotf: Babylonsister doubled down in a Reply a few minutes ago and claimed the TWSJ editorial ran April 26th. Since TWSJ uses a paywall and I haven't paid, I'm not going to factcheck her claim. But if someone here is a TWSJ subscriber ...
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Democrats yesterday: "The leaker is a hero! The right wants revenge on the whistleblower!"
Democrats today: "It couldn't have been a liberal who leaked it!"
So they would have us believe a conservative did it, because... ... ...reasons?
Also, leftists project like an LED stadium light. That is all.
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Cause conservatives really want to give you nutjobs an excuse to get out and riot? I'll admit to lacking the patience to dig through the SCREEEEEEEing over this leak, but the only possible reasons for it that I see is pure pot stirring and excuses to go out Burning, Looting, and Murdering. Anyone with two functioning brain cells would know that is exactly what would happen once this got out. LA protests got violent, Seattle antifa announced their shopping spree plans on Twitter and carried signs like this
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FR40e2sVkAA6dnf?format=jpg&name=small)
I know, logic and liberals, oil and water.
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Hot Air's John Sexton suggests two bases for speculation about the leaker, https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2022/05/03/the-best-argument-that-the-draft-decision-was-leaked-by-a-progressive-n466863 : 1. Who benefits; 2. What sort of person would do such a thing. IMO, in either case, it's a Prog.
First, the timing is totally wrong, by 4 or 5 weeks, for Proggies' claim that it was intended to distract from Pelosiroo's Show Trial Kommittee. OTOH, it is pressure on justices who voted to overturn to change their votes, rallies Pro-Aborts to riot against the decision, threaten and possibly try to assassinate justices who voted to overturn, and invade the Supreme Court building on the day the decision is announced.
Second, it is Progs who continually denounce the US Constitution as anti-democratic, racist, fundamentally flawed, yada, yada, yada. It is Progs who regularly riot, murder, burn, and loot when they don't get their way.