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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on April 14, 2022, 05:41:51 PM
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Iwasthere (2,755 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216595060
We're being gaslighted. How do we combat this?
tRump has actually admitted crimes right in front of us, and it was televised!!
He refuses to condemn putin. He actually is now claiming that he strengthened NATO. tRump seriously has blood on his hands, he is an Evil criminal that the media states is going to run in 2024. How do we stop this madness? We are frogs in a pot.
Many in here are still suggesting that it'll all be fine, that the DOJ has got this, I'm not so sure. Something nefarious is going on imo. It's almost like a scifi movie where peoples minds are unwillingly taken over.
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Star Member smirkymonkey (62,634 posts)
3. Seriously. I always say this, but it's like the f**king Twilight Zone and it has been for years.
I feel like I am going mad most of the time. My most frequent thought is "How can so many other people not see this? How can so many other people not be horrified by what is happening in this country?"
It just gets worse and worse and we just manage to adjust to each incremental step toward fascism without missing a beat.
It really f**king scares me how we are just taking it, yet I don't know what to do, other than the usual sane things to support democracy, but they don't seem to be working. Not in the face of this kind of blatant disregard for law, order and decency.
They laugh in our faces and they have no fear of us. They will do as they please and they know that we are, so far, powerless to stop them.
Star Member abqtommy (13,910 posts)
5. They can try to gaslight us but it mainly works on their base. Their base is a minority in
the U.S. The rest of us are enlightened, educated, knowledgeable and woke and we
vote like they're a sick joke.
Iwasthere (2,755 posts)
9. Will ALL of our votes be counted though?
Manipulation of the vote will hopefully be less a possibilty, considering putin has less time to get his hands in it.
Star Member 2naSalit (57,187 posts)
10. I don't feel so confident about that idea.
I have a dear friend of many years, not a Democrat but not a Repug either. Intelligent, pays attention to current events, we discuss politics a lot and still he wonders if the R point of view isn't legit at times.
People have varying degrees of critical thinking skills and many don;t want to pay attention to politics, they want to just live their lives and not have to think about anything else. Folly as many of those world views may be, that's what I see in my environment. Even the pretty savvy will question their values when something that sounds viable arrives wearing a bow.
Fortunately we end up agreeing on most political views after discussing the facts of each issue. He gets his news and info from some other sources than I do so we compare notes on what is being presented and where.
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Star Member abqtommy (13,910 posts)
12. Did you feel confident in 2020 whan 93 million of us voted to make President 'Nato Joe'
Biden our political leader? Is there some good reason why we can't do that again? NO!
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Star Member Hoyt (53,471 posts)
6. Best way to fight trump is to beat him or his endorsees at polls.
Everything else depends on finding evidence to indict and a jury that will convict.
While it’s proof that trump is unfit for office, your examples probably aren’t a crime— kissing up to Putin, and wanting NATO to pay more than relying on us.
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underthematrix (5,686 posts)
8. I'm an African American woman of 71 years
and I don't understand what the attraction is to such evil. The thing I always find surprising by this type of post is why you're attending to, listening to and then repeating and spreading the garbage coming out of this evil mentally disturbed man's mouth?
I get why he's doing it but why are you repeating it? Is this like being attracted to the thing you hate?
The only thing I care about is doing everything I can do to save our democracy. Repeating and spreading lies in an election year is not helpful.
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PSPS (12,162 posts)
16. "why you're attending to, listening to and then repeating..."
The thing I always find surprising by this type of post is why you're attending to, listening to and then repeating and spreading the garbage coming out of this evil mentally disturbed man's mouth?
I've been saying for years that, if DU is any indication, the largest audience segment for RW people and RW media is DU members!
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Every utterance someone hears from a RW politician, hate RW radio/tv host, etc., gets re-posted here, often in its entirety. People should just change the channel or turn the damn thing off! Its sole purpose is to stoke outrage in whatever way it can. I call it the "outrage industry" or "outrage porn." It seems to be the hottest ticket in town because people just can't stop watching/listening and become outraged. Take a break and watch cat videos instead! Your life will be happier!
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Star Member KY_EnviroGuy (13,640 posts)
13. The truth always sets us free. Don't let yourself be the gaslightee.
What's happening is traditional fascist and oligarchical tactics on steroids. That is, efforts to saturate the global public's minds with lies, bullshit, deception and fake conspiracy to the point where most don't know what to believe.
Not at all new in human history although still a bit alien to America, so we're prone to be naive and gullible.
About all we can do is keep ourselves informed, support Democratic campaigns and democratic organizations such as ACLU, but most importantly GOTV and VOTE.
gaskinite (62 posts)
19. Anyone Remember the ending of Schindler's List?
The concentration camp leader is unceremoniously hanged.
While I am against capital punishment, I would be willing to make an exception with f Trump faced this same fate.
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I thought Buggee/Baltimike copyrighted "gaslighted". :rotf: :tongue:
Unsurprisingly, Iwasthere lied or is ignorant, https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-condemns-russia-invasion-says-he-prays-ukrainian-people-2022-02-27/ . Nosing around a bit more, from 2017, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-condemns-russia-vladimir-putin-syria-michael-gove-a7528876.html . In 2018, https://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-condemns-putin-for-backing-animal-assad-in-responding-to-syria-chemical-attack-big-price-to-pay/ .
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We're being gaslighted. How do we combat this?
Leave the echo chamber of DU and the democratic party.
He actually is now claiming that he strengthened NATO
Trump told NATO members to pay what they agreed to pay for their defense. What effect would that have? Yes, that's right, it would strengthen them.
12. Did you feel confident in 2020 whan 93 million of us voted to make President 'Nato Joe'
Biden our political leader? Is there some good reason why we can't do that again? NO!
Hmm, 93 million. Did we conjure up some extras in there somewhere? :whatever:
Anyway yes, there is a reason you won't be able to pull that off again. The biggest reason Biden got 81 million votes was because people were propagandized into doing voting for him, and the obvious suppression of the laptop story. That's not going to work again.
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gaskinite (62 posts)
19. Anyone Remember the ending of Schindler's List?
The concentration camp leader is unceremoniously hanged.
While I am against capital punishment, I would be willing to make an exception with f Trump faced this same fate.
I remember the ending of eric schneidermann.
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