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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Texacon on April 07, 2022, 07:39:34 AM
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216570447
I predict this will be a VERY short thread.
sl8 (8,833 posts)
A wind energy company has pleaded guilty after killing at least 150 eagles
https://www.npr.org/2022/04/06/1091250692/esi-energy-bald-eagles
A wind energy company has pleaded guilty after killing at least 150 eagles
April 6, 2022 1:36 PM ET
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
BILLINGS, Mont. — A wind energy company was sentenced to probation and ordered to pay more than $8 million in fines and restitution after at least 150 eagles were killed over the past decade at its wind farms in eight states, federal prosecutors said Wednesday.
NextEra Energy subsidiary ESI Energy pleaded guilty to three counts of violating the Migratory Bird Treaty Act during a Tuesday court appearance in Cheyenne, Wyoming. It was charged in the deaths of eagles at three of its wind farms in Wyoming and New Mexico.
In addition to those deaths, golden and bald eagles were killed at wind farms affiliated with ESI and NextEra since 2012 in eight states, prosecutors said: Wyoming, California, New Mexico, North Dakota, Colorado, Michigan, Arizona and Illinois. The birds are killed when they fly into the blades of wind turbines. Some ESI turbines killed multiple eagles, prosecutors said.
It's illegal to kill or harm eagles under federal law.
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I would be dollars to donuts that 99% of the DUmmies don't know what I'm about to post, and the 1% who do know would never talk about it.
Obama admin regulation allows wind turbines to kill up to 4,200 bald eagles per company
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/14/obama-admin-regulation-allows-wind-turbines-kill-4/
The quest for green energy brings with it a bloody downside for America’s national symbol.
Bald and golden eagles may be legally killed or injured in the thousands by high-speed turbines (reaching speeds up to 170 miles per hour), under new regulations released Wednesday by the Obama administration. The rules, which affect individual wind-energy companies that plan to operate the technology for up to 30 years, allows up to 4,200 of the birds to perish.
Enforcement by federal officials is set to begin in January prior to President Obama’s last day in office.
Obama Allows Wind Turbines to Legally Kill Eagles
https://canadafreepress.com/article/obama-allows-wind-turbines-to-legally-kill-eagles
On January 17, 2017, the number of bald eagles that can be killed by wind farm permit holders will increase from the current legal number of 1,100 to 4,200—almost a quadrupling. The Fish and Wildlife Service is issuing new 30-year permits that allow the additional eagles to be killed or injured without prosecution under the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act. The fee for a long-term permit is $36,000. A permitted facility that exceeds its authorized eagle kill limit will not be fined or criminally prosecuted, although it could be “subject to an enforcement action at any time for unpermitted prior take of eagles.” sup>1 Under the previous rule, the permits were for a five-year term.
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Two large wind farms were assessed fines in the past several years. In 2013, Duke Energy Renewables was found to be criminally liable for killing 163 protected birds, including 14 golden eagles, at two of its wind farms in Wyoming. The company agreed to pay a $1 million fine and another $900,000 in restitution and compensatory mitigation. Last year, PacifiCorp was the second wind energy company to be prosecuted. It was fined $2.5 million for killing 38 golden eagles and hundreds of other protected migratory birds at its wind projects in Wyoming.
I don't know how many times I've seen the DUmmies claim wind turbines don't kill birds, but it's been a lot. I would love to see someone go to that thread and post this information!
KC
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By the way, I love how DUmmies will always drop a post like this and not comment on it in their OP. They want to see which way the wind blows on the subject before they pipe up.
KC
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The wind turbines I see near me are never rotating so are the Eagles trying to make Brandon look bad by committing suicide and flying directly into the blades? :o
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The wind turbines I see near me are never rotating so are the Eagles trying to make Brandon look bad by committing suicide and flying directly into the blades? :o
Yup. Even the eagles know!
:lmao:
KC
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Mr. Sparkle (2,285 posts)
6. The rotor blades need to be made of flexable material so birds just bounce off them
KC
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I predict this will be a VERY short thread.
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I don't know how many times I've seen the DUmmies claim wind turbines don't kill birds, but it's been a lot. I would love to see someone go to that thread and post this information!
KC
9 Replies in about an hour and a half, so far.
That's a Blue-on-Blue fight, so :rotf: :popcorn: .
A couple of gems:
Mr. Sparkle (2,286 posts)
6. The rotor blades need to be made of flexable material so birds just bounce off them
Response to Mr. Sparkle (Reply #6)Thu Apr 7, 2022, 09:12 AM
Star Member mopinko (62,326 posts)
9. um. that wouldnt work.
if it was that soft, it wouldnt catch the wind.
Iron sharpens iron, proverbially. Evidently, stupid makes stupid stupider. :rotf:
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Maybe we could suspend some wacky waving inflatable tube guy's around the turbines to scare the eagles away. Brilliant! :lmao:
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Mr. Sparkle (2,285 posts)
6. The rotor blades need to be made of flexable material so birds just bounce off them
How about adding a gas powered motor to reverse the rotation of the blades and blow the birds away.
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:lmao:
MagickMuffin (12,759 posts)
20. Ya know back in the day regular desk fans came with a cage to protect consumers
They cage didn't obstruct the performance of the blades. Perhaps this could be a workable solution!
Let's build some 310' in diameter cages to hang up there! That's the ticket!
:rotf:
KC
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Star Member NNadir (29,008 posts)
47. Germany has been burning coal all winter. This should suggest that the often...
...repeated dogma that the wind industry is an alternative to any fossil fuel is a delusional myth.
The enthusiasm for this fossil fuel dependent destruction of wilderness to lace it with access roads to render it into industrial parks for the wind industry has nothing to do with climate change.
It never did.
It is and always has been rather to attack, unsuccessfully I might add, the last best hope of the environment, nuclear energy.
He also called wind turbines "unsustainable garbage."
The DUmmies also proposed painting one blade black, because some study said it helped. How to do that?
Star Member Disaffected (2,565 posts)
37. I don't see what that has to do with it.
Use helicopters or drones with a spray paint gun.
:lmao:
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Do DUmmies understand that paint has weight? And that spray-painting black one blade in an installed set of turbine blades would unbalance the turbine blades by quite a few pounds? Thus unbalancing, possibly dangerously, the turbine? Morons,
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In addition to all their brilliant ideas about wind turbine design, they also are quite adept at math.
Shanti Shanti Shanti (11,114 posts)
41. 150 eagles, over 10 years....so 1 1/2 birds a year or so....got it
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Do DUmmies understand that paint has weight? And that spray-painting black one blade in an installed set of turbine blades would unbalance the turbine blades by quite a few pounds? Thus unbalancing, possibly dangerously, the turbine? Morons,
I'd bet the mortgage none of them could follow what you just said, even if you DID have the necessary crayons to explain it to them. :confused:
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Wind power kills ptarmigans.
Effect of tower base painting on willow ptarmigan collision rates with wind turbines
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7319111/
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Mr. Sparkle (2,286 posts)
6. The rotor blades need to be made of flexable material so birds just bounce off them
Nah, just put up some signs warning eagles not to fly near the blades.
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Wind power kills ptarmigans.
Effect of tower base painting on willow ptarmigan collision rates with wind turbines
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7319111/
Just make sure turbines are built in fields with plenty of rabbits - to keep everybody safe.
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I predict this will be a VERY short thread.
Just 49 rplies. Good call!!!
I would be dollars to donuts that 99% of the DUmmies don't know what I'm about to post, and the 1% who do know would never talk about it.
Jabbering while in a state of ignorance is standard DU fare. And often :rotf: and :popcorn: .
I don't know how many times I've seen the DUmmies claim wind turbines don't kill birds, but it's been a lot. I would love to see someone go to that thread and post this information!
Well, speaking of DUmmies jabbering while in a state of ignorance ... windmills chopping up raptors and birds generally has been a story in SF Bay Area MSM for a couple of decades. There's a large-ish bird chopper farm in the hills around the Altamont Pass, east of Livermore.
KC
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Create a no-fly zone around the turbines and shoot them before they hurt themselves
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Create a no-fly zone around the turbines and shoot them before they hurt themselves
Better yet, pass a law that makes it illegal for Iggles to commit suicide by flying into turbine blades. Hefty fines and stiff prison terms for any bird that breaks the law.
That'll teach 'em...
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Better yet, pass a law that makes it illegal for Iggles to commit suicide by flying into turbine blades. Hefty fines and stiff prison terms for any bird that breaks the law.
That'll teach 'em...
I would agree to this only if they had low or no bail until the trial. :cheersmate: