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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on March 30, 2022, 08:25:32 AM
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Septua (861 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216543193
I don't understand why the Jan 6 Committee is concerned over the possible appearance of conducting a partisan witch hunt to get Donald Trump.
That's what Dan Goldman said today on Deadline White House, relative to the Committee making criminal referrals to DOJ. Goldman has had the opinion all along that DOJ should be in the process of investigating the Jan 6 insurrection based on all the evidence already floating around.
And I don't disagree with that but with everything everybody already knows, where does any hint of partisan witch hunt activity exist? Trump lost the election, everybody knows it. Trump tried to get swing state election officials to nullify their election results and everybody knows it. Trump tried to get Pence to not certify the electoral vote count and everybody knows it. Trump spent an hour at the Jan 6 rally stoking the crowd with rigged election lies, stolen election lies, Democrat and media conspiracy lies, 'got to fight like hell' comments, totally unsubstantiated 'proof' of a rigged election lies...over and over and over. And after the riot began, he let it run for 3 hours and everybody knows it.
Donald Trump, 100 Republican Senators and Representatives, along with several lawyers and radical right personalities devised a plan to undo the 2020 election that would keep Trump in the White House, which is an attempted coup d' état. Any investigation, by any group of investigators, is a necessary and logical attempt to determine what Trump knew and when did he know it.
The Republicans are already calling the investigation partisan...might as well forget about possible appearances. If DOJ doesn't start the investigation, make the damned criminal referral.
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Star Member brooklynite (76,917 posts)
1. I have no idea what you're referring to other than the opinion of a cable news pundit.
What actual evidence do you have about such an alleged concern?
dem4decades (9,033 posts)
2. Have you heard the comments from the Committee members themselves concerned about DOJ
And its lack of action?
Septua (861 posts)
9. Law enforcement isn't a valid legislative purpose
"The Select Committee is gathering facts and asking questions about the violence of January 6th and its causes so we can make legislative recommendations and help ensure nothing like that day happens again," a committee aide told CNN. "The Select Committee is not conducting a law enforcement investigation, so if we uncover information that we believe could be related to criminal conduct, we will make whatever referrals are appropriate."
But any referrals made by the committee may serve as more of a political statement than anything else.
"Law enforcement and the punishment of perceived legal wrongs are not valid legislative purposes. To the extent Congress seeks to utilize subpoenas to investigate and punish perceived criminal wrongdoing, it unconstitutionally intrudes on the prerogatives of the Executive Branch," his attorneys wrote. "Bringing information to light for the sake of bringing it to light is not a valid legislative end."
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Star Member Hoyt (52,938 posts)
3. You think a conviction in court is assured? If not, that's your answer.
In a period where less than 5% of voters — true independents — decide a national election, it’s a big deal.
Star Member Chin music (16,958 posts)
4. "And everybody knows it," 'stuff' are facts so obvious by now the Judge should admit it by taking
"Judicial Notice' of same and move on to the other issues.
It's all common knowledge backed up by video and testimony.
I heard Jackie Alemany on msnbc tonight say something about the J6 hearings.."starting in April OR MAY." now. I have to say, a red flag went up for me. This sounds like goal post moving yet again, and Jackie raised an eyebrow.
Honest quesion....if they have interviewed 800 + people, how do they intend to get it all out on TV in time for the gop to suffer the price by November?
April already was a pushed out date to get he hearings on tv. Wth is going on? It would seem-to me- that the public hearings should start now, and keep interviewing whats left on the side. We HAVE to get started w the endgame here imho. The summertime everyone will be on vacation too. Not tuned in as much I think.
And,...Jackie? Wth
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Star Member no_hypocrisy (39,747 posts)
7. It's the Republicans' logical fallacy of trying to make the Democrats and the
Investigation adopt the position that this process look "fair".
There is no "fair". It's an investigation. You can't ignore, you can't control the facts.
If it were a murder case, the Republicans position would be "You hate the defendant. That's why you put him on trial."
It doesn't work that way.
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Septua (861 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216543193
I don't understand why the Jan 6 Committee is concerned over the possible appearance of conducting a partisan witch hunt to get Donald Trump.
I don't either. The Trump-Russia-Collusion Shamvestigation, Shampeachment 1.0, and Shampeachment 2.0 were all grossly obvious partisan exercises uninterested in facts, so who could be fooled into thinking the 1/6 Kangaroo Kourt is anything different?