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Title: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: USA4ME on March 22, 2022, 04:41:19 PM
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brooklynite

Can anyone point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about military action?

No-fly zones

"Red Lines"

Military action in Belarus

Providing missles and planes

Truly amazing.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216511933

Yes, it is!!

And even more so when one considers that if a Republican were in the WH, given the exact same circumstances the political left would be crying that the R’s were going to get us into WW3. There certainly wouldn’t be anyone on DU claiming they were becoming “increasingly hawkish”.

Hey lefties, and especially you primitives, you’re two-faced!! And it shows!!

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Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: SVPete on March 22, 2022, 04:48:33 PM
When in 2011 OhBummer needed an accomplishment and engineered the overthrow of Gaddafi? When did OhBummer try to take out Assad? 2011? 2012? brooklynite might want to Search DU's archive. Clinton's Bosnia war was before DU came into being, but there might be expressions of approval of that war in DU's archives. IOW, Proggies are hawkish when the President has a D after his name and dovish for R Presidents.
Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: Aristotelian on March 23, 2022, 02:56:12 AM
When in 2011 OhBummer needed an accomplishment and engineered the overthrow of Gaddafi? When did OhBummer try to take out Assad? 2011? 2012? brooklynite might want to Search DU's archive. Clinton's Bosnia war was before DU came into being, but there might be expressions of approval of that war in DU's archives. IOW, Proggies are hawkish when the President has a D after his name and dovish for R Presidents.

There we have the point. They don't think about whether a particular conflict is necessary - all that matters is the party politics. They just want to follow the dear leader.
Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: Drafe Hoblin on March 23, 2022, 09:58:15 AM
I haven't heard the term 'war-doves' since the Vietnam-era. 

Looks like it's been making a comeback on DU.
Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: BannedFromDU on March 23, 2022, 10:12:36 AM
There we have the point. They don't think about whether a particular conflict is necessary - all that matters is the party politics. They just want to follow the dear leader.


     Unlike any other conflict since DU inception, they can put their money where their fat mouths are and go fight. There is a path for liberals to go live out their fantasies of being Billy Jack. All they have, of course, is excuses, led by Col. Stinky the Coward, whose MOS is being a hypocrite warmongering *****.
Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: jukin on March 23, 2022, 10:32:06 AM
One order of granite pizza for DUmmy brooklynite coming up!

First rule of DUmbass internet DUmp site is that nobody talks against the established DUmb democrat talking points.
Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: SVPete on March 23, 2022, 12:04:34 PM
One order of granite pizza for DUmmy brooklynite coming up!

First rule of DUmbass internet DUmp site is that nobody talks against the established DUmb democrat talking points.

Wasn't he FFRed a week or three ago? DU owners & Mods have given him a really long leash for many years.

ETA:  He was FFRed in late February, https://conservativecave.com/cave/index.php?topic=128426.0 .
Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: BannedFromDU on March 23, 2022, 12:15:07 PM
Wasn't he FFRed a week or three ago? DU owners & Mods have given him a really long leash for many years.

ETA:  He was FFRed in late February, https://conservativecave.com/cave/index.php?topic=128426.0 .

     He allegedly knows Hillary and other party luminaries, which is one hell of a DU insurance policy.
Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: DefiantSix on March 23, 2022, 12:28:47 PM
     He allegedly knows Hillary and other party luminaries, which is one hell of a DU insurance policy.

May not be much of an insurance policy if Komrade Kankles ever gets it in her head that he might have information which could lead to arrests and convictions of members of the Clinton Crime Family. :devious:
Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: BannedFromDU on March 23, 2022, 12:39:23 PM
May not be much of an insurance policy if Komrade Kankles ever gets it in her head that he might have information which could lead to arrests and convictions of members of the Clinton Crime Family. :devious:


     I think all Dems in that realm know better than to provoke the Clinton Death Squad. Definitely puts a new spin on a DU tombstone, though.
Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: CollectivismMustDie on March 23, 2022, 12:51:09 PM

     Unlike any other conflict since DU inception, they can put their money where their fat mouths are and go fight. There is a path for liberals to go live out their fantasies of being Billy Jack. All they have, of course, is excuses, led by Col. Stinky the Coward, whose MOS is being a hypocrite warmongering *****.

WWTMND?

Would he go over there and stump for ukraine?


 :whistling:

Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: BannedFromDU on March 23, 2022, 01:28:51 PM
WWTMND?

Would he go over there and stump for ukraine?


 :whistling:


      He would definitely attempt a stand, that's for sure. He might need to be pushed into it, sure, but he'd put his best foot forward.
Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: SVPete on March 23, 2022, 01:37:12 PM

      He would definitely attempt a stand, that's for sure. He might need to be pushed into it, sure, but he'd put his best foot forward.

I miss Nematode, in a wry cringing sort of way.
Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: BannedFromDU on March 23, 2022, 02:01:41 PM
I miss Nematode, in a wry cringing sort of way.

     I enjoyed watching his slow burn from a garden variety moonbat to a fire-breathing certified lunatic in just a year or so. The pictures of him always scowling, with that most that looks like a chink of cauliflower...such memories.
Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: Zathras on March 23, 2022, 02:20:16 PM
Isn't it ironic that the same people that were screaming that President Trump was going to start WW3 are all Gung Ho about us getting involved in Ukraine against Russia.....which would start WW3.

We need a facepalm emoji/gif. If any time it was needed now would be the time.
Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: BamaMoose on March 23, 2022, 02:32:48 PM
Wasn't he FFRed a week or three ago? DU owners & Mods have given him a really long leash for many years.

ETA:  He was FFRed in late February, https://conservativecave.com/cave/index.php?topic=128426.0 .

He, no doubt, wrote a substantial check to EarlG and promised to tone it down in order to escape purgatory.  DU's management has always selectively enforced the site's rules for the big donors.  EarlG will never let his "integrity" impact his cash flow.
Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: CollectivismMustDie on March 23, 2022, 04:46:54 PM

      He would definitely attempt a stand, that's for sure. He might need to be pushed into it, sure, but he'd put his best foot forward.

Hoyt should start recruiting for the beancan brigade, and they can go over to ukraine and show us how useless guns are in relation to bean cans.

 :rotf:
Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: dandi on March 23, 2022, 05:28:22 PM
It's all about Putin.

Of all the oppression, murder and genocide in the World they had to choose from they've always demanded the U.S. stay out of things. Don't be the World Police. Stop enriching the military-industrial complex. No more war for oil. Save the troops by not sending them to war. etc, etc.

But they've bought into the Russian collaboration hoax so deeply that they see Putin and Trump as one in the same. Kill Putin, and you kill the orange man. And they're more than happy to have Ukraine turned into rubble and NATO soldiers thrown into the meat grinder to get it done.

Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: USA4ME on March 24, 2022, 06:20:37 AM
It's all about Putin.

Of all the oppression, murder and genocide in the World they had to choose from they've always demanded the U.S. stay out of things. Don't be the World Police. Stop enriching the military-industrial complex. No more war for oil. Save the troops by not sending them to war. etc, etc.

But they've bought into the Russian collaboration hoax so deeply that they see Putin and Trump as one in the same. Kill Putin, and you kill the orange man. And they're more than happy to have Ukraine turned into rubble and NATO soldiers thrown into the meat grinder to get it done.

You're absolutely right!!

For some reason they've latched onto this war and wanting the US military to get involved because they have made some weird connection between Russia losing and Biden winning. This is how desperate they are for Slo Joe, and by extension the Dems, to gain something positive going into the midterms. From their POV, all other wars going on in the world and the suffering those people face daily don't mean anything to them because the outcome of those wars won't help them at the polls.

The Ukrainian people are just a tool to gain sympathy for the Dems. They're just itching for a chemical or nuke attack by Russia so the USA/NATO can roll in the military and Slo Joe can be a "war president". This is how sick in the head they are.

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Title: Re: Point to another instance where folks here were so...enthusiastic about war
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 24, 2022, 09:35:14 PM
When in 2011 OhBummer needed an accomplishment and engineered the overthrow of Gaddafi? When did OhBummer try to take out Assad? 2011? 2012? brooklynite might want to Search DU's archive. Clinton's Bosnia war was before DU came into being, but there might be expressions of approval of that war in DU's archives. IOW, Proggies are hawkish when the President has a D after his name and dovish for R Presidents.

Let's not forget NATO bombing the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade in 1999.

The Chinese Embassy Bombing, 20 Years Later
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/the-chinese-embassy-bombing-20-years-later/

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Tom Fox comments on the legacy of the U.S. bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade during the Kosovo war that took place 20 years ago today:

In China, the incident is both vividly remembered and woven tightly into the broader historical narrative of national humiliation. To this day, it is largely regarded as a deliberate strike on sovereign Chinese territory, despite competing lines of argument for why the United States took such action. The U.S. government’s formal apologies and explanations satisfied neither Chinese leaders nor the Chinese people, a stalemate that holds true from the time of the incident until today.

This huge gap in the historical interpretations merits exploration because the five bombs that detonated 20 years ago still reverberate in today’s policy debates. While plenty of analysis is currently devoted to the 30th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square protests, the Belgrade bombing is arguably more relevant to understanding how current U.S.-China relations evolved.

The bombing of the Chinese embassy was one of many screw-ups in the Kosovo war, some of which Gil Barndollar described very well in his article for the current issue of TAC. The original official excuse for the attack was that the U.S. was relying on outdated maps and didn’t realize what our forces were bombing, but it was such a monumental and glaring error that it isn’t surprising that this has not persuaded the Chinese government or the public.