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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on February 16, 2022, 08:58:52 AM
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edhopper (28,514 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216360599
Did Biden avert a war?
And if so, will we find out what happen behind the scenes?
And if so, will he get the credit he deserves.
Star Member cilla4progress (18,260 posts)
1. Mastermind -
I'm betting on him.
And credit? Only for those with an ounce of intelligence, awareness, and conscience.
Tetrachloride (1,596 posts)
5. Don't count any chickens yet. The White House said the threat is still there
Star Member Deuxcents (4,516 posts)
8. Biden deserves a lot of credit..
He was instrumental in getting NATO to trust us after tfg damn near destroyed our reputation. He helped to form a strong n United alliance against an evil foe. This was on his terms n I hope Putin goes home n realizes tfg is no longer relevant.
BGBD (3,097 posts)
10. Bob Woodward
will probably write a book about it that'll come out in like a year and a half or something.
Whatever happened, it'll eventually come out.
Star Member ms liberty (7,007 posts)
16. I told someone yesterday, Biden's a pro at this
He was on the Foreign Relations committee, and was a Senator forever and VP for 8. He's not going to panic or freak out at Putin maneuvering, he's been watching Soviets play games for 50 years. Remember that this is the guy who at one time wanted to be Sec State.
Deminpenn (13,314 posts)
18. There was a discussion of this on MSNBC
yesterday. One of the guests noted how well Biden's played a bad hand. The guest thought that the decision to declassify and announce everything Putin was going to do ahead of time really threw Putin off-guard and "took control of the narrative" away from Russia. When you think about it, it's quite a clever strategy.
:yawn:
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My uneducated guess, Putin is sowing chaos and confusion, particularly among the US "leadership", our mass media, and the dumb masses as part of a larger scheme that likely does include overtaking Ukraine and other former Soviet territories eventually. Biden and his string pullers (several of the same folks listed previously) are also sowing confusion, but to give the impression that Biden actually accomplished something and distract from the floating dumpster fire that is his administration. The quoted posts from the DUmp suggest both plans working splendidly.
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Putin knows he’s dealing with the gang that can’t shoot straight. Now it’s just a matter of what he wants to do.
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Confirmation bias.
Whatever happens, Biden's supporters will interpret it in a way that makes Biden look like a genius.
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Confirmation bias.
Whatever happens, Biden's supporters will interpret it in a way that makes Biden look like a genius.
Yeah. It's a shoo-in that DU will fall for it.
If viewed from Mars, Putin has been moving material around on his property while Ukraine has been moving material around on their property. That's it. Nothing else has been happening for weeks.
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Putin drove a wedge between the US and Ukraine and demonstrated to NATO members that LIEden is weak, never prepared, and indecisive.
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Putin drove a wedge between the US and Ukraine and demonstrated to NATO members that LIEden is weak, never prepared, and indecisive.
Can't even figure out how to work a mute button and Brandon is responsible for averting a war. Yea. :whatever:
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Biden didn't no such thing but you DUchebags believe whatever communist propaganda tells you. This was a complete distraction to getoil prices higher and take all of the other failures that JoePedo gave us in his path to destruction of the USA.
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edhopper (28,514 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216360599
Did Biden avert a war?
And if so, will we find out what happen behind the scenes?
And if so, will he get the credit he deserves.
If by some chance #JoeTheIncompetent did avert a war, you may safely bet the mortgage - well, mommy's mortgage is probably the closest you'll get to such instruments, DUmbass - that the outcome wasn't the dementia-addled bastard's actual intention. But then, even Reggie Love's Li'l Bitch knew, you "never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up", so it's not as if you weren't warned ahead of time.
Given #JoeThePretender's current polling, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if the Pretender to the Throne tried to start a war to take advantage of the numbers boost a war-time pResident gets - and screwed it up seven ways from Sunday...
:popcorn: :rotf: :rofl:
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Joe Biden Is a Mess
By KEVIN D. WILLIAMSON
February 15, 2022 5:45 PM
Watching President Biden’s Ukraine speech, there’s good news and bad news.
The good news is, Biden isn’t drunk.
President Joe Biden speaks about the situation in Russia and Ukraine from the White House in Washington, D.C., February 15, 2022. (Kevin Lamarque/Reuters)
Watching President Biden’s Ukraine speech, there’s good news and bad news.
The good news is, Biden isn’t drunk.
Biden doesn’t drink.
The bad news is, Biden isn’t drunk. He just talks that way now.
Biden may be as sober as Sunday morning, but he’s as lost as last year’s Easter eggs.
The content of the speech was predictably bad. The short version: The United States is firmly committed to its principles but would like Putin to know in advance that we will not fight for them. Not in this case. Maybe if he invades a NATO country rather than a country Washington has quietly endeavored to keep out of NATO.
The content is unremarkable, mainly. This is what Biden was always going to say. But the performance is something: Biden is slurring his words, getting lost in the middle of short sentences, and in general acting like a grandpa who cannot figure out how his new phone works.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/joe-biden-is-a-mess/ (https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/joe-biden-is-a-mess/)
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https://news.sky.com/story/russia-ukraine-crisis-moscow-says-western-propaganda-has-failed-without-a-single-shot-fired-12542524?fbclid=IwAR1l04ybx2-YX4GRGXh7aqPypTILbifrpztVFMnJfKi-52QOqhNxvZO_oC4 (https://news.sky.com/story/russia-ukraine-crisis-moscow-says-western-propaganda-has-failed-without-a-single-shot-fired-12542524?fbclid=IwAR1l04ybx2-YX4GRGXh7aqPypTILbifrpztVFMnJfKi-52QOqhNxvZO_oC4)
Russia-Ukraine crisis: Boris Johnson says Russia sending 'mixed signals' as Moscow says West 'humiliated' over Ukraine invasion warnings
Western leaders are still warning Russia could invade Ukraine but Moscow claims it has just been training troops near the border and some are now leaving.
Alix Culbertson
Political reporter @alixculbertson
Tuesday 15 February 2022 16:03, UK
Boris Johnson said Russia is sending "mixed signals" as it appears to be preparing to invade Ukraine - but Moscow said some military units are returning to their bases and the West has been "humiliated" over its warnings about an incursion.
The prime minister said Russia is constructing field hospitals near the border with Ukraine and more battalion tactical groups are being brought closer to the border "which can only be construed as preparation for an invasion".
"So, mixed signals we're seeing at the moment and all the more reason for us to remain very tough and united, particularly on economic sanctions," Mr Johnson said.
Not familiar with Skynews (looks very British) but pretty much matches my thoughts. Putin playing 3D chess while Biden is playing Candyland.
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Star Member cilla4progress (18,260 posts)
1. Mastermind -
I'm betting on him.
And credit? Only for those with an ounce of intelligence, awareness, and conscience.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS0CtQnq08KURNg0Qk2a1iYC25yAbXqUApojw&usqp=CAU)
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Confirmation bias.
Whatever happens, Biden's supporters will interpret it in a way that makes Biden look like a genius.
So very true.
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Confirmation bias.
Whatever happens, Biden's supporters will interpret it in a way that makes Biden look like a genius.
And if Putin invades, DUpipo will go Full-Stalinist, calling Ukrainians "Nazis".
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And if Putin invades, DUpipo will go Full-Stalinist, calling Ukrainians "Nazis".
Well, I've heard Ukraine is home to one of the more active neo-NAZI movements.
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Like I said, calling Ukrainians "Nazis" began in the Stalin era. Ukrainians briefly welcomed the Nazis - courtesy of the Holodomor, they hoped for liberation from Stalin - but when the Nazis oppressed them, the Ukrainians turned against the Nazis.
Neo-Nazi groups are probably in all European countries, plus or minus Russia.
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When you have lost KEVIN D. WILLIAMSON, noted cuckservative and leftist...
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Biden can't even hold back his farts, but they're going to act like he can hold back Russia.
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Biden can't even hold back his farts, but they're going to act like he can hold back Russia.
No need to worry. We just sent our best and brightest Kamala over there to straighten them Ruskies out.
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No need to worry. We just sent our best and brightest Kamala over there to straighten them Ruskies out.
:thatsright:
Isn't giving the entire political class of a foreign power the clap considered biological warfare?
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:thatsright:
Isn't giving the entire political class of a foreign power the clap considered biological warfare?
Entirely possible that Kamala may be the force that joins Russia and the EU together to attack the USA.