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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on January 27, 2022, 02:22:35 PM
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Alexander Of Assyria (1,488 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216292701
TFG must be tried for both Treason and Sedition.
https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-sedition-and-vs-treason/
All quotes in reference to linked article
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What is Sedition?
If you are doing something or saying something that is meant to overthrow the established authority in your country, you are liable to be charged with sedition.
What is Treason?
Treason is a concept that overlaps with sedition. It refers to acts of brazen defiance against one’s own government in a bid to bring harm or to overthrow the government in place. If you owe allegiance to your government but do something to overthrow the government…
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Do the actions, as revealed by undisputed evidence to date, merit an indictment on Sedition?
Yes. TFG said many things and did many things to overthrow the established authority on J6, the purpose being to overthrow the established authority of Congress to certify the will of the Electorate as to the next government.
Do the actions, as revealed by undisputed evidence to date, merit an indictment on the capital offence of treason?
Yes.
Were there “acts of brazen defiance against one’s own government in a bid to bring harm or to overthrow the government in place ? If you owe allegiance to your government but do something to overthrow the government or betray your state by harming its interests and by helping an enemy state, you are liable to be charged with treason.”
All checkboxes are marked; a President owes high allegiance to the government in place at the time of the bid to overthrow the government. As well many subordinates would meet the tests.
The DOJ is asking these very same questions, applying the legal lenses, using the same tests.
The outcome of all tests must come out the same. Bearing in mind the full picture is not yet known to the public, the full evidence not yet released.
Indictments for Sedition and Treason, a certainty.
It can only be a matter of time, which as of today is not of the essence.
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Section 3.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.
The Sedition Act, as finally Amended
§2384. Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=%2Fprelim%40title18%2Fpart1%2Fchapter115&edition=prelim
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A number of other related offences listed at the link are also available for those lower down in chain of the conspiracy and organization of the coup and the violence.
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Star Member SCantiGOP (12,176 posts)
1. In the interest of truth
What is quoted above is not close to the Constitutional definition of treason.
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rsdsharp (4,797 posts)
7. Thank you. The word "treason" is thrown around casually by
those who have no idea of what it actually means. Often throwing in “Death is the punishment for treason.” The actual possible penalties for treason include death, but that isn’t the only option:
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
115 USC §2381
Zeitghost (917 posts)
4. The only thing that might empower Trump...
Enough to win reelection might be a failed prosecution which would be almost guaranteed.
Star Member MineralMan (141,581 posts)
6. You should probably look downthread, where someone posted the actual
language from the Constitution regarding Treason. Nobody is going to be charged with Treason, and there's no need to do so.
Sedition or Conspiracy for an Insurrection is more than adequate to put them all in prison for what will amount to a life sentence.
Accuracy matters.
maxsolomon (26,359 posts)
11. Must be, should be, but won't be.
He must be defeated at the ballot box, again. Only then will he slink off into eternal ignominy.
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They never get around to actually stating any evidence, i.e. quotes, time and place of specific actions, etc.
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Cool, now do the rioters in Portand Oregon.
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The more the DUmmys scream about Real President Trump, the more they know there is going to be democrat blood in the street come the first Tuesday of 2022.
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What is Sedition?
If you are doing something or saying something that is meant to overthrow the established authority in your country, you are liable to be charged with sedition.
What is Treason?
Treason is a concept that overlaps with sedition. It refers to acts of brazen defiance against one’s own government in a bid to bring harm or to overthrow the government in place. If you owe allegiance to your government but do something to overthrow the government…
1. That is not how the US Constitution defines treason.
2. First, apply this reasoning to AlGore and HilLIARy.
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Cool, now do the rioters in Portand Oregon.
And Seattle. Never mind the two black men murdered there.
How about that DUmmies?