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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on December 18, 2021, 08:46:54 AM
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kentuck (103,757 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216156226
A democracy without justice will be forever divided.
When Merrick Garland was sworn in as the Attorney-General of the United States, he was very clear in his regard for the rule of law.
If he is true to his word, what can we expect from him in the coming weeks and months?
The J6 Committee has stated that they wish to have public hearings sometimes after the new year. They may be finished by the first day of spring? What happens then?
How many more names will they refer to the DOJ? How many will the DOJ prosecute?
Will the Attorney General name a Special Prosecutor to investigate the role of Donald Trump in the insurrection?
If that were to happen, the investigation would continue, even if the Republicans win the House and Senate in November. The DOJ would have at least two more years to complete their investigation.
We will find out if Merrick Garland is a man of his word and whether our nation is a nation of men or a nation of laws?
:whatever:
Star Member brooklynite (74,520 posts)
1. Another aspect of "justice" is that we don't rush indictments...
…simply to make base voters and bloggers happy.
Star Member walkingman (3,550 posts)
3. Rushing and ignoring are two different things.
Garland doesn't seem interested in getting into anything that has a political stench. I would like to see more leadership.
Star Member brooklynite (74,520 posts)
4. Provide any proof that he's "ignoring" anything.
Star Member walkingman (3,550 posts)
5. His reluctance to impanel a grand jury seems strange to me. In today's
world I think we would know if that had happened. With 2022 election coming soon any delay will only ensure that the contempt charges will be meaningless. Our judicial system can expediate rulings as they please - delay has the same effect as ignoring.
Admittedly, I have no "proof" but I worry that lack of accountability is a green light for more treasonous actions in the future.
Star Member brooklynite (74,520 posts)
7. Have you ever served on a Grand Jury? I have.
The purpose of the Grand Jury is to issue indictments. The job of the prosecutor is to present enough hard evidence to secure an indictment.
That evidence is NOT "we know he's guilty" or "here's a newspaper report" assertions.
Case in point: it took close to two years to issue indictments for Watergate.
The armchair prosecutors here have an assumption about how long it takes to collect enough hard evidence to convince a Grand Jury based on how long it takes on LAW & ORDER.
:whatever:
radius777 (3,153 posts)
2. +1. Democracy cannot exist without justice,
which the left has stated for the past 100 years. You can't have a society in which some are exempt from the law while others are systematically held down by it. If Garland fails to act and Trump and his cronies are not punished it will only embolden them. The right is building an entire infrastructure to support a potential non-democratic future Trump admin.
Busterscruggs (166 posts)
9. I hope the timing is planned out
That Trump has to go back and forth to court while campaigning. That'll be ugly for the rethugs
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Brooklynite is either a mole or red pilled.
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The J6 Committee has stated that they wish to have public hearings sometimes after the new year.
Democrats could have made these hearings public, but then they couldn't control the messaging. That is why there will never be public hearings for the mostly peaceful protesters of January 6th, 2020.
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kt doesn't get Pelosiroo's and Schifftyroo's plan. They need to string this Kangaroo Kommittee's shamvestigation into late summer at the least, because 2022 Congressional elections. The Kangaroo Kommittee needs to obscure the fact that the rioters are being prosecuted, for minor offenses, and they need to fabricate ways - as Schifftyroo tried - to falsely smear R Congress Critters with "crimes" that didn't happen.
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Star Member brooklynite (74,520 posts)
7. Have you ever served on a Grand Jury? I have.
The purpose of the Grand Jury is to issue indictments. The job of the prosecutor is to present enough hard evidence to secure an indictment.
That evidence is NOT "we know he's guilty" or "here's a newspaper report" assertions.
Case in point: it took close to two years to issue indictments for Watergate.
The armchair prosecutors here have an assumption about how long it takes to collect enough hard evidence to convince a Grand Jury based on how long it takes on LAW & ORDER.
:lmao: If DU had a Most Alerted-On Member award, brooklynite would own it and be retired to "Emeritus" status. :lmao:
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Brooklynite is either a mole or red pilled.
Reading his posts one has to wonder why he’s still there, AND a democrat. Seriously.
KC
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which the left has stated for the past 100 years. You can't have a society in which some are exempt from the law while others are systematically held down by it. If Garland fails to act and Trump and his cronies are not punished it will only embolden them. The right is building an entire infrastructure to support a potential non-democratic future Trump admin.
Pantyfa?
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which the left has stated for the past 100 years.
You can't have a society in which some are exempt from the law while others are systematically held down by it. If Garland fails to act and Trump and his cronies are not punished it will only embolden them. The right is building an entire infrastructure to support a potential non-democratic future Trump admin.
Who is kevin clinesmith?
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When Merrick Garland was sworn in as the Attorney-General of the United States, he was very clear in his regard for the rule of law.
Unfortunately just not the constitutional laws of the US :thatsright:
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Waco. Ruby Ridge. J6. Rule of Law. FBI. Uh huh. Tell me about it. (I just read part II of the Revolver article last night)
https://www.revolver.news/2021/10/meet-ray-epps-the-fed-protected-provocateur-who-appears-to-have-led-the-very-first-1-6-attack-on-the-u-s-capitol/
https://www.revolver.news/2021/12/damning-new-details-massive-web-unindicted-operators-january-6/
Select Committee. Yeah right. Now where did I put my tinfoil helmet?
:tinfoil2: Ah there it is.
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Look out, Elon... kt just won the Most Maudlin Thread-Title Of The Year.
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Pantyfa?
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:-)
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Do you think they've ever considered for a moment that the DOJ isn't investigating what they want because there's not enough evidence to warrant it? If DOJ thought there was, they'd be on it instead of waiting for Congress to act as their investigative arm. Congressional investigations, like impeachment, are POLITICAL acts, not law enforcement acts. Clinton was impeached because it had already been established that he broke the law by lying under oath, not because "we don't like him, so he must be guilty of sumthin'."
During the four-year-long rolling insurrection by the Left during Trump's presidency, we had sitting members of Congress standing in the well and before raucous crowds, not calling for peaceful demonstrations like Trump did, but exhorting mobs already rioting to become even more "active" and confrontational and to harass their political opponents. Chris Cuomo was asking, "Who said protests were supposed to be peaceful?", and Democrat mayors were issuing stand down orders to police while their cities burned and their citizens were terrorized.
If you want to investigate something for the sake of justice, investigate that.
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America is Constitutional Republic, not a leftist commie democracy dipChit. ESAD leftTard.