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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Mary Ann on December 15, 2021, 10:18:03 AM
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maxrandb (12,359 posts)
If one wanted to organize against Hate Radio, how would one start ( it's personal to me)
I know there are a few DUers that share my passion about "finally" doing something about the cancer of Hate Radio in this country, but it seems that without the resources and organization it would require, it's like tilting at windmills.
I may have relayed this story before, but I realized the harm of Hate Radio while on a trip with my family from Lemoore, CA to North Island NAS outside San Diego.
In 2003, I was a Lieutenant "Navy Mustang Officer" at any F18 Squadron in Lemoore, CA. We were about to deploy on the USS CARL VINSON for an 8 month Western Pacific cruise. Since the ship was in North Island, we thought it would be nice too drive down to San Diego as a family. It would be an adventure for my young family. We could spend some time together before I said goodbye for 8 months, and my bride could take the PCH on the way back and spend some time with her cousins family in the Caramel Valley. It was going to be a great trip.
We talked. Counted the cows. Listened to music and enjoyed the beauty of California.
Anyone who has made this trip from Lemoore to San Diego knows that the fastest route is to take Interstate 5, loop around Los Angeles, and continue on to San Diego. On a good day, with no LA traffic, you can make it in about five and a half hours, or, you can get stuck in LA traffic and it will take 8-9 hours. All Lemoore Sailors know the shortcut that includes getting to the 15. It's a little more distance, but it can save you a lot of times and frustration.
I switched the radio to AM to get a traffic report. I hit the scan button. My radio, in the middle of the "bluest" state in the country, commenced to scan and stop on radio station after radio station broadcasting the Rush Limbaugh show. I thought there must have been some mistake. Maybe the radio was just cycling around and landing on the only station it could find. Nope! It was 5 different stations, all with Rush, and each one about 2 seconds of broadcasting time behind. If there were such a thing as Radio Hell, I'd found it.
Here's where it got personal. I decided to just listen, because surely there would be a traffic report at the top of the hour. Surely, I could make it 10-15 minutes.
This was at the top of the drumbeat to the War in Iraq. In fact, the reasons we were deploying just 7 months after getting back from the Afghanistan deployment was because the carrier normally based out of Japan was going to the gulf. Our carrier was taking its place to maintain a carrier presence in the Pacific.
Anyway, Rush was taking about some Dems opposition to the coming Iraq war, and he said; "Dems want more American troops to get killed".
That's when my daughter, who was 10 at the time, and knew my political leanings, said from the back seat; "dad, you don't want more Americans to die, do you"? Hey, kids will be kids.
I assured her that "no, her father wasn't a monster just because he was a Democrat" and that "that guy on the radio was just an idiot".
I took the shortcut, and the rest of the trip was CDs of NSYNC and Shakira. But that question from my daughter stuck with me.
I don't think there was a day of that entire cruise that I didn't think of that. I thought of how I was about to say goodbye to my family for 8 months to serve my country, and millions of my fellow Americans saw me as an enemy because of my political beliefs.
I also thought about how many Americans, despite their age, have the mental capacity of a 10 year old.
My reaction was, how could this be allowed to go on unchecked?
I knew I had listened to college and professional sports teams games broadcast on the same stations that broadcast this cancer.
I knew that I bought and used some of the products and services advertised on the same stations that broadcast this cancer.
I knew there are local stations headquartered in the bluest of blue cities that broadcast this cancer that vilifies, smears and defames the majority of the citizens of those cities.
Here is something else I know in my heart. If there were 200 less of these stations broadcasting this filth, it would equate to 20-30 less Retrumplican House members and 5-7 less Retrumplican Senators.
Corporations and businesses support this cancer.
Universities and professional sports support this filth.
Isn't it time that we at least try to do something about this?
I say yes, but it needs to be coordinated, resourced and organized at a level that is above my paygrade.
*snort*
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There's more hate in that primitive's rant than could be legitimately found on conservative radio over the past 30+ years.
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CrispyQ (30,916 posts)
6. We're 40 years behind the 8-ball in messaging.
I don't know why our side doesn't take messaging seriously. We need a marketing department, stat! The right has more successfully branded our side than we have. Tax and spend democrats. Dems coming for your guns. Socialists. Baby killers. We let the right hang slogans like Defund the Police & CRT around our neck, without a peep of protest or clarification. I don't know why we never hired George Lakoff or someone like him.
Hmm, let's see:
Are Democrats the tax and spend party? Yes.
Coming for guns? Yes.
Socialists? Yes.
Baby killers? Yes.
Defund the police? Yes.
CRT? Yes.
It's not the "messaging." It's your platform.
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It's not the "messaging." It's your platform.
Exactly! They keep harping on this "messaging" platform, when the truth is their message has been, and still is, coming through loud and clear. It's just that people don't like the message.
The left wants everyone to listen to and love the message and don't want them peaking behind the curtain.
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I'm guessing he's never listened to left wing radio or watched left wing TV. They have claimed all kinds of stupid stuff through the years.
I seem to recall a video of them showing a republican pushing a wheelchair bound grandma off a cliff because the republican plan for healthcare was to kill grandma.
::)
KC
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maxrandb (12,359 posts)
If one wanted to organize against Hate Radio, how would one start ( it's personal to me)
Find leftists who can talk intelligently and entertainingly for extended periods of time about topics many people are interested in (yeah that shoots the idea down fast), get good ratings in a small market to prove to the big media chains and their advertisers you and your group will bring in ears for their stations and ads (this takes time, persistence and patience, so another big blow to the left's abilities), then maintain a solid audience in the larger markets for an extended period of time. Basically study El Rushbo, The Great One (Mark Levin), even Hannity and arguably Michael Savage (yes, he's at the low end of the spectrum, but Savage has been going for quite a while).
Yes, none of that will happen, cause the left just wants to spew their hate on the government dime, and force all dissent into the re-education camps.
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The problem with LW radio is that they have nothing new to offer the public they can't already get from the national news offered from ABC, NBC, and CBS, along with the NYT, WaPo, LA Times, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, etc... All of these ignore anything other than the official Dem party narrative.
Conservative radio offers a unique perspective that isn't already saturating the market.
The problem is that the maxrandb primitive isn't fully disclosing what he truly believes, and that is conservative voices need to be silenced. Period. Full stop.
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DUmmies can't organize a one car funeral, so good luck crushing right-wing radio. The hate radio is all on your side.
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Sad little rant. I remember Air America. That station went coast to coast before it had an audience. They assumed they would be as popular as Rush just for showing up.
~~It crashed and burned.
do what Rush did, start small and build from that base. Rush started with one show on one station.
Put together a few sample shows and market yourself in a Blue friendly city. Advertise. expand from there.
Rush had the one thing a lefty will never have though...Humor.
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How can people be so out of the loop that they don't realize them dems' message pervades corporate media, schools, sports, the arts, etc.?
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Libs & Progs have been "organizing against" their Bogey-Hate Radio at least since Rush came on the national scene in 1988 (1987?). Short of a Nazi-Bolshevik-like takeover of radio and TV, Rush's successors - many of whom he personally knew and encouraged - are not going away.
:tongue: And then there's Progs' Err America debacle ... what are the chances there are gushing threads on DU in the second half of the 2000s about Err America? :tongue: :rotf: Or maybe Pacifica Radio, Proggies' soap-opera-grade Kluster-F of Kingdom-Builders? :rotf:
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maxrandb (12,359 posts)
If one wanted to organize against Hate Radio, how would one start
first step is to define what "hate radio" is.
My feelings towards rap music is strong dislike bordering on hate. Does that mean that any radio station that plays rap music is hate radio? Rather than try to organize against any station that plays rap (hate) music, I chose not to listen to such stations and don't let it ruin my day knowing that such stations exist and are broadcasting the crap I hate.
I suggest maxrandb do the same.
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Sad little rant. I remember Air America. That station went coast to coast before it had an audience. They assumed they would be as popular as Rush just for showing up.
~~It crashed and burned.
do what Rush did, start small and build from that base. Rush started with one show on one station. (KFBK, Sacramento)
Put together a few sample shows and market yourself in a Blue friendly city. Advertise. expand from there.
Rush had the one thing a lefty will never have though...Humor.
:hi5: and QFT.
I tried listening to Err America a couple of times. It was so humorlessly venomous that it was unlistenable (probably even many local Libs and Progs found it so). Rush's "Updates" were so funny while being pointed that my second reaction was, "I wish I could get away with that!" My first reaction, until I realized that he was humorously serious and spot-on, was to wonder if the show was a satire of conservatives.
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And for YEARS all we heard was; Right Wing Radio is subsidized by the federal government or they couldn't survive. I remember those rants. Those have pretty much gone away.
Randi Rhodes falling down drunk and knocking all of her teeth out on a curb was the only thing that kept Air America going longer than it should have.
Seems like she concocted some story about getting beat up (I can't remember and don't want to look it up so I'll just ad lib here). She was coming back from a Subway in Chicago at 3:00am and it was minus 104 F, when all of a sudden she was jumped by 2 big ol' white boys who screamed "This is W country!!" Then they threw some cocaine on her and hung a bolo tie around her neck!!
KC
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Sad little rant. I remember Air America. That station went coast to coast before it had an audience. They assumed they would be as popular as Rush just for showing up.
~~It crashed and burned.
do what Rush did, start small and build from that base. Rush started with one show on one station.
Put together a few sample shows and market yourself in a Blue friendly city. Advertise. expand from there.
Rush had the one thing a lefty will never have though...Humor.
One Err America host had a sense of humor - Stephanie Miller. The rest were pissed off raving moonbats though.
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Randi Rhodes falling down drunk and knocking all of her teeth out on a curb was the only thing that kept Air America going longer than it should have.
Seems like she concocted some story about getting beat up (I can't remember and don't want to look it up so I'll just ad lib here). She was coming back from a Subway in Chicago at 3:00am and it was minus 104 F, when all of a sudden she was jumped by 2 big ol' white boys who screamed "This is W country!!" Then they threw some cocaine on her and hung a bolo tie around her neck!!
And then Kyle Rittenhouse shot her in the arm with a blunderbuss, and said "What? I'm just using the weapons from the time of the 2nd amendment!" Then he just casually waved to the police as they drove by, oblivious to Rhodes.
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And then Kyle Rittenhouse shot her in the arm with a blunderbuss, and said "What? I'm just using the weapons from the time of the 2nd amendment!" Then he just casually waved to the police as they drove by, oblivious to Rhodes.
:lmao:
KC
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Sad little rant. I remember Air America. That station went coast to coast before it had an audience. They assumed they would be as popular as Rush just for showing up.
~~It crashed and burned.
do what Rush did, start small and build from that base. Rush started with one show on one station.
Put together a few sample shows and market yourself in a Blue friendly city. Advertise. expand from there.
Rush had the one thing a lefty will never have though...Humor.
He was also whip-smart. And he knew what he did NOT know and deferred to and sought out those who DID. Two more things the left does not have Rush did.
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He was also whip-smart. And he knew what he did NOT know and deferred to and sought out those who DID. Two more things the left does not have Rush did.
He also refused to have guests on, which apparently every program director requires. Yes, he did have the Republican President/nominee (and the VP) the week of the election. Otherwise, it was all him and maybe 10 callers in a 3 hour show.
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One Err America host had a sense of humor - Stephanie Miller. The rest were pissed off raving moonbats though.
I tried to listen to Al Franken when that network first aired, and he was absolutely awful at radio. Don't really remember hearing Stephanie Miller, but Randi Rhodes was occasionally amusing in a moonbat kind of way.
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Here is something else I know in my heart. If there were 200 less of these stations broadcasting this filth, it would equate to 20-30 less Retrumplican House members and 5-7 less Retrumplican Senators.
Darn that pesky 1st Amendment, which allows opposition to our agenda!!
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216146923
*snort*
First, you have to be right about something.
People tend not to listen to radio where the host claims: that the sky is purple with yellow trim, that you can spend your way out of debt, that inflation is actually good, that SUVs mow down people performing in christmas parades all by themselves, that keeping more of what you earn "costs" state or federal governments, that ar-15s are 'weapons of war', that math is racist, white people owe anyone anything due to the color of their skin, that 'separation of church and state' meant anything other than keeping government out of church, that 'promote" in 'promote the general welfare' means 'provide' for the general welfare, that the second amendment says that only 'a well regulated militia' have an actual right to keep and bear arms, that men can magically turn into women...and so on.
Real people with brains know that every single example that I listed, is an example of a leftist 'truth' which in fact isn't truth at all,
Who would tune in to that, other than a portion of the 30 people that watch cnn?
:rofl: