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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on December 14, 2021, 09:09:42 PM
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Star Member DFW (45,074 posts)
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Moral dilemma that took about ten seconds to resolve
A friend of mine is from a very backward (to us coastal folks) part of Tennessee on the Missouri border. He is a rare bird in those parts. He is a solid Democrat who got his ass handed to him when he ran for Congress. He is a devout Christian, which I can't even fathom, being more of the George Carlin school of thinking on the subject. Friendly irreconcilable differences, call it. My friend truly believes the whole thing, tax, title and license. I believe in George Carlin, though I do not pray to Joe Pesci.
However, my friend in Tennessee is genuine, the absolute real thing. Compassionate, caring, and exuding a friendship that just radiates authenticity.
So, when I got his message that his home town of Dresden, Tennessee was demolished, with people left with nothing but the shards of the contents of what used to be their homes, I responded--immediately and substantially. I don't buy the "there, but for the grace of God, go I" line. My version is a simple, "wow, that could have been me!" And when you look at this photo he sent, you do NOT want that to have been you:
There were plenty of other towns that got demolished, too. LOTS of them. The difference here is that my friend and his extended family all live here, and he asked his friends, of which I am one, for help. If it had been my family, he would been one of the first to ask what he could do, and then do it to the extent that it was in his power. I can, and will, do no less.
:whatever:
lame54 (31,253 posts)
4. Just thinking of Kurt Vonnegut
Star Member DFW (45,074 posts)
7. I don't know if their paths ever crossed
He never mentioned it. I should probably ask the next time I see him. I was hoping to see him in 2 weeks in South Carolina, when we go to the USA, but I don't even know if he can get out of there (or wants to) under the current circumstances.
lame54 (31,253 posts)
8. Slauterhouse Five features the bombing and leveling of Dresden...
Germany in WWII
Vonnegut was a prisoner there when it happened
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Star Member DFW (45,074 posts)
9. Oops. I should have known.
Dresden, Tennessee, is a slight trek from Saxony.
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Star Member CaliforniaPeggy (139,930 posts)
5. You are such a good friend, my dear DFW!
There isn't much you can do from that distance, but I'm sure you'll think of something.
We are a complex species, we humans. There can be so many seemingly irreconcilable aspects to each of us that you have to wonder how we hold it all together. Your friend is a supreme example of such a person, and good for him!
stopdiggin (5,626 posts)
10. +1. you're absolutely right
there is no moral dilemma here. People are hurt, people are heart-sick and crushed - people have nothing. And the 'human' response is to come to their aid. Doesn't matter what church, or which side of the aisle ... If you have a problem with that - you need to get yourself some more 'human.'
Star Member DFW (45,074 posts)
16. It really looked like the end of the world
I care plenty about how they vote, but I don't put that in the same category as seeing their lives violently ripped from under them. It's one thing to be an idiot about vaccination. It's quite another to be at the mercy of a 200 MPH tornado tearing the walls of your house /and maybe a family member or two) away right in front of you.
Star Member Skittles (139,362 posts)
23. I donated to a Kentucky fundraiser
I put politics aside during tragedies; yes INDEED
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A friend of mine is from a very backward (to us coastal folks) part of Tennessee on the Missouri border.
Condescending virtual signaling prick
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If it only takes 10 seconds to solve it is not a moral dilemma. It is instead "it only took me 10 seconds make my friends misery all about me and how good I am."
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If it only takes 10 seconds to solve it is not a moral dilemma. It is instead "it only took me 10 seconds make my friends misery all about me and how good I am."
Yup. Spot on.
KC
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I've read this a couple of times now and I'm wondering (other than the fact as pointed out above, Marc wanted to make it about himself), what would he consider a moral dilemma in the story as posted? That he, as an agnostic or atheist, was considering NOT helping his friend because he's a Christian?
Wow! What an asshole.
His story sucks on 2 levels.
KC
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Star Member DFW (45,074 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216145140
Moral dilemma that took about ten seconds to resolve
A friend of mine is from a very backward (to us coastal folks) part of Tennessee on the Missouri border. He is a rare bird in those parts. He is a solid Democrat who got his ass handed to him when he ran for Congress. He is a devout Christian, which I can't even fathom, being more of the George Carlin school of thinking on the subject. Friendly irreconcilable differences, call it. My friend truly believes the whole thing, tax, title and license. I believe in George Carlin, though I do not pray to Joe Pesci.
If that post were any more dripping with bigotry there'd be a lake of bigotry under it. THIS is DU ... unsurprisingly.
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Oh looky, Marc took a few seconds of doing what comes naturally to him by thinking only about himself to write about how he can take what happened to others and make it about himself.
What a guy!
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“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.
Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you."
Matthew 6:1-4
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Star Member DFW (45,074 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216145140
Moral dilemma that took about ten seconds to resolve
A friend of mine is from a very backward (to us coastal folks) part of Tennessee on the Missouri border. He is a rare bird in those parts. He is a solid Democrat who got his ass handed to him when he ran for Congress. He is a devout Christian, which I can't even fathom, being more of the George Carlin school of thinking on the subject. Friendly irreconcilable differences, call it. My friend truly believes the whole thing, tax, title and license. I believe in George Carlin, though I do not pray to Joe Pesci.
However, my friend in Tennessee is genuine, the absolute real thing. Compassionate, caring, and exuding a friendship that just radiates authenticity.
So, when I got his message that his home town of Dresden, Tennessee was demolished, with people left with nothing but the shards of the contents of what used to be their homes, I responded--immediately and substantially. I don't buy the "there, but for the grace of God, go I" line. My version is a simple, "wow, that could have been me!" And when you look at this photo he sent, you do NOT want that to have been you:
There were plenty of other towns that got demolished, too. LOTS of them. The difference here is that my friend and his extended family all live here, and he asked his friends, of which I am one, for help. If it had been my family, he would been one of the first to ask what he could do, and then do it to the extent that it was in his power. I can, and will, do no less.
Elitist. :mental:
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“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.
Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you."
Matthew 6:1-4
Jesus knew the day would come when virtue- signallers like this DUmmy would ne common in this world!