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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Muddling 2 on October 08, 2021, 07:16:54 PM
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"In a.d. 622, Mohammed set out from Medina to conquer the whole Christian world for Allah by force of arms. Within a hundred years, his successors had occupied and pillaged every Christian capital of the Middle East, from Antioch through North Africa (home of Saint Augustine) and Spain. All that remained outside Allah's reign was the northern arc from Southern France to Constantinople.
What we are seeing in 2014 has a history of more than 1,300 years — a very bloody, terror-ridden history. Except that today the struggle is far, far more secular than religious — a war over political institutions and systems of law, with almost no public argument over religious doctrine.
Edward Gibbon, in TheDecline and Fall of the Roman Empire (1776-78), describes how tall Islamic minarets could have been seen in Oxford before his birth, and the accents in its markets would have been Arabic: "The interpretation of the Koran would now be taught in the schools of Oxford, and her pulpits might demonstrate to a circumcised people the sanctity and truth of the revelation of Mahomet."
Gibbon was writing about the decisive battle of Poitiers in a.d. 732, when at last a Christian leader, Charles Martel ("Charles the Hammer"), drove back the Muslims from their high-water mark in Western Europe with such force that they went reeling backwards into Spain. From there, it took Spain another 750 years — until 1492 — to drive Islamic armies back into North Africa, whence they had invaded. Even so, the Islamic terror bombers who just a few years ago killed more than a hundred commuters in Madrid did so (they announced) to avenge the Spanish "Reconquista" of 1492. For Islam, to lose a territory once Muslim is to incur a religious obligation to wrest it back."
Link: https://www.catholiceducation.org/en/culture/history/how-the-1571-battle-of-lepanto-saved-europe.html
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Charles Martel was a good guy who didn't take crap from anybody. :-)
We should hear more about him, but in this day and age, he'd be called an islamophobe -- and they'd be right.
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We need a History forum. Slightly more important than a Semi-Nude Girls Forum although I enjoy both.
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Battle of Tours
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tours
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Charles Martel was a good guy who didn't take crap from anybody. :-)
We should hear more about him, but in this day and age, he'd be called an islamophobe -- and they'd be right.
Not to quibble, but a "phobia" is an irrational fear.
Nothing irrational about fearing militant Islam.
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Not to quibble, but a "phobia" is an irrational fear.
Nothing irrational about fearing militant Islam.
Good point, and I stand corrected. H5.
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We need a History forum. Slightly more important than a Semi-Nude Girls Forum although I enjoy both.
Heresy!!!!
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Heresy!!!!
Perhaps "The History of Semi-Nude Girls"??
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Perhaps "The History of Semi-Nude Girls"??
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Semi?
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Semi?
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Anticipation, son.
Anticipation.
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Anticipation, son.
Anticipation.
:cheersmate:
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