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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on September 30, 2021, 06:43:45 PM
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Star Member DanieRains (3,580 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215910083
Maybe We Could Build A Semiconductor Factory Somewhere In The USA So China
Doesn't control our country's manufacturing.
Ya think?
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Star Member underpants (164,992 posts)
1. Takes lots of water
lagomorph777 (26,085 posts)
2. Yes; would be good for businesses who sell and buy chips.
The semiconductor industry is weird. Only a tiny percentage of chip brands are actually manufactured by the company whose log is on the chip. Hundreds of companies design chips; only a few (less than a dozen) actually fabricate them (other than some tiny specialty houses).
So American firms in the design/sell category would benefit from more on-shore fab capacity.
sanatanadharma (1,345 posts)
4. Like the Hyundai chip plant built in Eugene, Oregon?
In the last decade of the previous century, Eugene, Oregon and Lane County committed to tax breaks and infrastructure costs needed to lure Hyundai to building it's new generation chip plant. Among many who got got employment in the construction phase (my wife) or later operations (my later wife).
Everyone lost their jobs eventually and (for operations) too soon.
The city and county got an empty white elephant in the next decade. Building the buildings for building chips moved elsewhere and likely again.
I think too many people think they are too smart by half and believe they are really in control, riding the wave of uncontrolled capitalist dreams and just in time profit skimming.
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Captain Zero (3,511 posts)
5. Remember Trump was gonna do that in Wisconsin!
Remember all his bullshit about having that one Chinese company locate one there ??
IT. NEVER. HAPPENED.
Trump couldn't get it done.
http://www.mtpleasantwi.gov/2428/Foxconn
Foxconn Technology Group is the global leader in manufacturing services for the computer, communication and consumer electronics (3C) industry. The company has facilities in Asia, Europe, and Latin America. The company is seeking to construct an advanced display manufacturing campus comprised of multiple buildings to produce liquid crystal display (LCD) panels for a variety of industries. In 2017, the Village of Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin was chosen as the site for a new LCD panel glass fabrication plant.
Shanti Shanti Shanti (10,747 posts)
11. WE outsourced chip manufacturing to Asia for cheap skilled labor! and their foundries to make them
zipplewrath (16,118 posts)
12. "global supply chain" wasn't
The last 10 years of my career, I was frustrated by the constant discussion of the "global supply chain" because it wasn't "global". It was the "Asian Pacific" supply chain. My industry had trouble working with that supply chain and therefore was always being castigated for our supply chain problems. Our "problem" was that we could work with 90% of the "supply chain" but that the 10% that dominated the "chain" was off limits to us. And it was silly because basically we'd work with a "supplier" with whom we were allowed to deal, and they were basically acting as a "middle man" with the countries with whom we could not work.
The pandemic has exposed the falsehood of the "global supply chain" and the reliance and resilience of it. We regularly saw small "interruptions" of the "chain", but could create work arounds for the short term. But it was always one major disaster away from collapsing. The whole concept of "just in time" was created in Japan when they were dealing with suppliers that were within 25 miles away. The concept of the "global supply chain" expanded that to the whole world without consideration of things like the Suez and other canals that were choke points, much less global pandemics.
We didn't need the TPP. We needed a NAFTA that recognized the needs of the environment and labor. We needed a pact that would ensure the continued flow of necessary products and materials. We need a "supply chain" that serves the interests of the people, not the manufactures.
Star Member csziggy (32,960 posts)
15. Micron has at least three manufacturing locations in the US
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Somehow the reality of excessive gov’t regulation increasing the cost of doing business and items being manufactured overseas instead of here hasn’t really ever connected with them. I mean, the left comes up with a lot of answers and explanations and excuses in regards to this fact, but it’s always wrong. And if this reality were really connecting with them, they wouldn’t be asking why. So I fail to see why they want to find a way to bring manufacturing back when they aren’t willing to eliminate the reasons they left in the first place.
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If only we had a president willing to wield the duly legislated power of his office to stand up to China.
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Wonder how much it would shock these ****wits to learn that there ARE semiconductor plants within the contiguous United States. Intel has dozens of them and I've worked tool installation jobs at a few of them.
What I think makes these plants invisible to DUmbshits is that most of the (very skilled, highly paid) crew members at these places are decidedly NOT interested in adding the chains of a union to their burdens.
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Somehow the reality of excessive gov’t regulation increasing the cost of doing business and items being manufactured overseas instead of here hasn’t really ever connected with them. I mean, the left comes up with a lot of answers and explanations and excuses in regards to this fact, but it’s always wrong. And if this reality were really connecting with them, they wouldn’t be asking why. So I fail to see why they want to find a way to bring manufacturing back when they aren’t willing to eliminate the reasons they left in the first place.
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As I've said many times: DUmmies and economics are not good friends.
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Business in modern america:
1. Run successful business
2. Government adds on more regulations to Business and or product
3. Business dies
4. Market share lost overseas and hundreds of jobs lost to "coding"
5.government reverses some regulations
6.company still dead
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As I've said many times: DUmmies and economics are not good friends.
Most of the time they aren't even passing acquaintances...