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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on September 30, 2021, 04:40:28 PM
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They seem determined to go for an all or nothing kamikaze gambit. In doing so they are risk tanking Biden and their party.
So, why the fanaticism?
I think they need it all or nothing this year because next being an election they won't get another bite at the apple. In fact, it will be even harder to go home and campaign if the candidate voted for $5 trillion in spending in 1 year alone.
But they need that spending to take over every facet of life in America. This is their one and only chance for many years to come.
I think they also anticipate losing congress.
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They will get rid of the filibuster soon. Then they will pass all the election fraud laws they want to ensure they never loose again.
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But they need that spending to take over every facet of life in America. This is their one and only chance for many years to come.
And a lot of the damage done to the Republic by these bills will be irreparable. Remember, the Great Society isn't going anywhere; the Department of Education isn't going anywhere; Roe v Wade isn't going anywhere; Department of Homeland Security isn't going anywhere; the Patriot Act isn't going anywhere; ObamaCare isn't going anywhere; we're never getting the Panama Canal back ... death by a few dozen cuts.
There's a lot of '22 election slush money in these bills, social justice "infrastructure" funds are being given to Community Organizations to be distributed with no strings or oversight.
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They will get rid of the filibuster soon. Then they will pass all the election fraud laws they want to ensure they never loose again.
I strongly suspect that both Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema have their eyes on the '24 Democrat Presidential primaries. The rank and file might be ready to walk away from the fascist/revolutionaries by then.
Also, they will be able to brag that they saved the filibuster for use against the newly elected 2022 Republican Senate.
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Joe Manchin has said that the reconciliation bill is D.O.A. if it doesnt't include the Hyde Amendment (no federally funded abortions). I am now convinced that he is abandoning traditional Democrat identity politics and is going to run for president in the Democrat primaries as a center-left populist in 2024.
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True to form the GOP has grasped defeat from the jaws of victory collaborating on the kick-the-can-down-the-road CR. Poor Joe had to stay up past his bedtime to sign it. He is a victim of elder abuse and Jill is the guilty party.
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Joe Manchin has said that the reconciliation bill is D.O.A. if it doesnt't include the Hyde Amendment (no federally funded abortions). I am now convinced that he is abandoning traditional Democrat identity politics and is going to run for president in the Democrat primaries as a center-left populist in 2024.
Tend to agree. He's had to dance the tightrope for a long time now and has gotten very good at it. In the end, though, he's a professional politician/liar and will say and do anything to win the next election - the big prize being the WH.
The center/left thing is but a mirage. If he runs, he'll have to position himself more to the left than center to appease the marxists/socialists within his party who have a stranglehold on it.
The Blue Dogs are no more.
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I saw this article today.
Now imagine a different scenario. A dissatisfied state has been building its power and expanding its geopolitical horizons. But then the country peaks, perhaps because its economy slows, perhaps because its own assertiveness provokes a coalition of determined rivals, or perhaps because both of these things happen at once. The future starts to look quite forbidding; a sense of imminent danger starts to replace a feeling of limitless possibility. In these circumstances, a revisionist power may act boldly, even aggressively, to grab what it can before it is too late. The most dangerous trajectory in world politics is a long rise followed by the prospect of a sharp decline.
As we show in our forthcoming book, Danger Zone: The Coming Conflict with China, this scenario is more common than you might think. Historian Donald Kagan showed, for instance, that Athens started acting more belligerently in the years before the Peloponnesian War because it feared adverse shifts in the balance of naval power—in other words, because it was on the verge of losing influence vis-à-vis Sparta. We see the same thing in more recent cases as well.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/09/24/china-great-power-united-states/
I'm a big fan of Kagan, BTW.
I think it goes far in explaining why China is so bellicose: It knows it has peaked, and there is no place to go but down. As my OP suggests, this rings true with the democrats as well.
This is it. This is their one big shot before sliding into impotence and irrelevance. They are (thankfully) at war with themselves and have no strong leader to guide them and their policies initiatives. Normally party leader is a role normally fulfilled by the president. They have no president, they only have his committee of handlers. They can't prevail outside of their political enclaves because - as the article points out - their assertiveness provoked a "coalition of determined rivals" (think: school board meetings among many other possible examples).
The Democrats are at war with each other over the prospect of going to (metaphorical) war with the rest of the nation. Those in swing states blanche. Those who are leftist dictators see that the time is now or never.
Consider the next paragraph from the article and tell me you do not see parallels with the actions of the Democrats:
Over the past 150 years, peaking powers—great powers that had been growing dramatically faster than the world average and then suffered a severe, prolonged slowdown—usually don’t fade away quietly. Rather, they become brash and aggressive. They suppress dissent at home and try to regain economic momentum by creating exclusive spheres of influence abroad. They pour money into their militaries and use force to expand their influence. This behavior commonly provokes great-power tensions. In some cases, it touches disastrous wars.
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Yeah, but they (the leftists) don't speak Greek. They speak leftist.
https://conservativecave.com/cave/index.php/topic,125898.msg1488737/topicseen.html#msg1488737