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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Texacon on August 20, 2021, 11:41:45 AM
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215761712
We now have vaccine snobs! :rofl: The next step will be the vaccine passports not being good for some shots. This is going to be a hoot, a hoot I say.
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luv2fly
Here's Why J & J's Vaccine Could Overtake Both Pfizer and Moderna
Here's Why Johnson & Johnson's Vaccine Could Overtake Both Pfizer and Moderna
David Jagielski
Aug 18, 2021 at 9:30AM
Johnson & Johnson's (NYSE:JNJ) COVID-19 vaccine has had some challenges this year. From production issues to some disquieting reports of blood clots possibly being linked to the vaccine, it hasn't been the success the company was likely hoping it would be at this stage. Vaccines from Pfizer (NYSEFE) and Moderna (NASDAQ:MRNA) have generated far more revenue for those companies and appear to be the vaccines of choice for many people.
However, the delta variant may change that, as both Moderna and Pfizer are suggesting booster shots are necessary. And the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recently authorized a third dose for people with weakened immune systems. Meanwhile, a new study has found the Johnson & Johnson vaccine to be highly effective against the delta variant, so booster shots may not be necessary for individuals who receive that vaccine. While a lack of boosters won't translate to more revenue from the vaccine, it's a development that could ultimately lead to Johnson & Johnson's vaccine rising in popularity and grabbing more market share.
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But the problem is that Johnson & Johnson's vaccine data were never a fair comparison: It only completed enrolling participants in the first phase of its vaccine trial a month later, in December 2020. By then, coronavirus had evolved and new variants of concern were emerging in the U.K., Brazil, and South Africa. In Moderna's and Pfizer's earlier trials, those variants would not have played as much of a role (if at all) in their overall efficacy rates as they did in Johnson & Johnson's trials; when looking at just the U.S., J&J's vaccine efficacy rose to 72% in preventing moderate and severe disease.
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A new study from South Africa, called Sisonke, has shown Johnson & Johnson's vaccine to be highly effective against one of the most concerning variants around right now -- delta. The trial is massive and involves 480,000 healthcare workers (Johnson & Johnson's initial phase 3 trial was relatively large and had only 45,000 participants). Although the data hasn't been peer-reviewed, the initial numbers are extremely encouraging -- showing 71% efficacy in preventing hospitalizations in delta-related cases. And in terms of preventing death, the overall efficacy rose to 96%.
More at:
https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/08/18/heres-why-johnson-johnsons-vaccine-could-overtake/
Dream Girl
1. Now we're on teams. When there was positive news about Moderna, some Moderna fax recepients
Started gloating. Now, it’s time for the J&J folks. I guess it’s human nature. Go Pfizer!!!
LisaL
7. Moderna is the most effective of the three vaccines per the available data.
It's not clear how long Moderna lasts, but from data available now, it's more effective than the other two.
Dream Girl
8. See what I mean?
StarryNite
14. Some people seem to insist on turning it into some kind of competition.
I hope all the vaccines are safe and effective. This is by no means a competition. This is life or death.
People who like to compete should go play football. LOL
womanofthehills
9. But ...the myocarditis stuff with kids is being reviewed now
U.S. officials reviewing possibility Moderna vaccine is linked to higher risk of uncommon side effect than previously thought. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/19/moderna-vaccine-myocarditis/
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Star Member LisaL
10. Yep, seems all vaccines have some rare side effects.
Moderna has a higher dose than Pfizer. That probably makes it more durable and effective, but might also lead to more side effects in younger males.
Those pesky side effects!
Star Member LisaL
6. J&J efficacy in that study was at only71% for preventing hospitalization.
Those are not exactly great numbers.
JohnSJ
12. 71% isn't bad, if it was the only vaccine available, but it isn't, and data from the mRNA vaccines
have demonstrated a much higher percentage in preventing hospitalizations, and serious outcomes
BlueIdaho
11. I remember saying...
“I’ll take any vaccine I can get my hands on.” During those early days when scarcity was the watchword of the day - I was happy to find ANY appointment and any vaccine for immunization.
I hope everyone’s vaccine is fully effective and if not, I hope supplemental shots become available as needed.
honest.abe
15. I also remember early on debating with the "vaccine shoppers"..
who were adamant about waiting to get the "perfect" vaccine based on the efficacy and side effects data available at the time. They may now regret their choice based on what we know now.
They post stuff like this then criticize people who are hesitant to take the shot. :lmao:
LET THE VACCINE WARS BEGIN!! I just hope the zombies are slow zombies. I’m getting older.
KC
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215761712
We now have vaccine snobs! :rofl: The next step will be the vaccine passports not being good for some shots. This is going to be a hoot, a hoot I say.
Those pesky side effects!
They post stuff like this then criticize people who are hesitant to take the shot. :lmao:
LET THE VACCINE WARS BEGIN!! I just hope the zombies are slow zombies. Im getting older.
KC
This ^^ not to mention that ammo is expensive so fewer misses mean more $ saved. :cheersmate:
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excellent finds
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luv2fly
Here's Why J & J's Vaccine Could Overtake Both Pfizer and Moderna
Here's Why Johnson & Johnson's Vaccine Could Overtake Both Pfizer and Moderna
David Jagielski
Aug 18, 2021 at 9:30AM
Johnson & Johnson's (NYSE:JNJ) COVID-19 vaccine has had some challenges this year. From production issues to some disquieting reports of blood clots possibly being linked to the vaccine, it hasn't been the success the company was likely hoping it would be at this stage. Vaccines from Pfizer (NYSEFE) and Moderna (NASDAQ:MRNA) have generated far more revenue for those companies and appear to be the vaccines of choice for many people.
However, the delta variant may change that, as both Moderna and Pfizer are suggesting booster shots are necessary. And the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recently authorized a third dose for people with weakened immune systems. Meanwhile, a new study has found the Johnson & Johnson vaccine to be highly effective against the delta variant, so booster shots may not be necessary for individuals who receive that vaccine. While a lack of boosters won't translate to more revenue from the vaccine, it's a development that could ultimately lead to Johnson & Johnson's vaccine rising in popularity and grabbing more market share.
I'm far from an anti-Covid-vaxxer - I was fully vaxxed as soon after recovering from Covid as followed my doctor's advice. But I am not buying the booster alarmism. Call me in a couple years, mmmkay?
As for J&J's vaccine, LIEden Pooed that Screwch months ago with that bungled week-long pause that the FDA knew on Day 1 was not necessary. Consequentially, J&J's vaccine is currently less than 4% of administered Covid vaccine doses in the US. I'm not :rotf: , because the LIEden sabotage of J&J and the overall vax effort (major fall in daily dosing at the same time) was and is not funny. But David Jagielski's (whoever he is) speculation is laughable. J&J has only been in use since the beginning of March 2021, so its decay of antibody concentrations are much less well known. Jagielski also seems unaware that J&J began a trial in which two doses of their vaccine were administered, well before their vaccine was authorized.
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Dream Girl
1. Now we're on teams. When there was positive news about Moderna, some Moderna fax recepients
Started gloating. Now, it’s time for the J&J folks. I guess it’s human nature. Go Pfizer!!!
That's actually pretty funny.
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Dream Girl
1. Now we're on teams. When there was positive news about Moderna, some Moderna fax recepients
Started gloating. Now, it’s time for the J&J folks. I guess it’s human nature. Go Pfizer!!!
I got the moderna vaccine in May but I have not received a fax from them yet. Is there someone I should call to get this fax that dream girl is talking about? I feel sort of left out not having received the fax.
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And the moonbats say conservatives are divisive. Here they are actively instigating another separation into groups.
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I got the moderna vaccine in May but I have not received a fax from them yet. Is there someone I should call to get this fax that dream girl is talking about? I feel sort of left out not having received the fax.
So you’re saying you’re not a …. Wait for it … recepient? lol
KC
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Is there a video of that blonde bitch eating rancid durian?
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Star Member LisaL
10. Yep, seems all vaccines have some rare side effects.
Moderna has a higher dose than Pfizer. That probably makes it more durable and effective, but might also lead to more side effects in younger males.
Young people are the targets of the vaccine. They want to reduce the population, but not by killing people with the vaccine, but just by causing sterility.
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From https://www.jnj.com/statement-on-boosting-with-the-johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine :
Statement on Boosting with the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 Vaccine
NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J., August 18, 2021 -- We are engaging with the U.S. FDA, CDC and other health authorities and will share new data shortly regarding boosting with the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine
The statement could be that the data does not support doing a booster, but in the current atmosphere of paranoid over-caution, probably not.
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Is there a video of that blonde bitch eating rancid durian?
It's an onlyfans video
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I’m watching what’s going on in Australia and France, and New York is trying to do, this is going to get ugly. Really ugly. France is trying to lock people out of supermarkets. That is not going to end well.
When people get hungry enough they’ll figure out a way to get food. I live in an area with plenty of wildlife, but many do not. Honestly, I’d be willing to help those who don’t have access to food over this.
KC
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Is there a video of that blonde bitch eating rancid durian?
I've heard that eating durian is like eating a can of farts
https://youtu.be/KhA19_tskCs (https://youtu.be/KhA19_tskCs)