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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on August 18, 2021, 04:13:22 PM
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ShazamIam (1,013 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215755022
Wowzie, does anyone have an explanation for the wall to wall attacks on Biden re Afghanistan?
Even sticking to text, it is hard to avoid the message, we must give up on Biden.
Nothing Trump did including the sell out of Afghanistan to the Taliban has ever received the kind of thrashing Biden is being given over Afghanistan.
The MSM seems intent on convincing all Americans to give up on Biden.
Not even the Jan. 6 attack on the Capital, generated this much anti-Trump coverage.
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Star Member jmbar2 (2,472 posts)
1. 2022 elections
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ShazamIam (1,013 posts)
10. Too far off for the attention span, what about those two big legislative agendas, Infrastructure &
the even bigger budget/reconciliation. Are they preparing a path for Sinema and Manchin to withhold support?
Add in the, the not so subtle support the, "big liars," have been given by this same MSM.
Star Member NewHendoLib (54,961 posts)
4. the media so misses the drama - so they create it to draw eyeballs and make money.
hence we are a no media zone in my house - no TV news of any sort for 17 years now.
It's all utter bullshit
Chuuku Davis (290 posts)
6. I think it is because he didn't
Pull the Americans and SIVs out before pulling the troops.
Star Member PortTack (21,057 posts)
13. Biden didn't pull troops..tfg did. Went from 15,000 to 2,500
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Star Member madamesilverspurs (14,742 posts)
7. Might have something to do
with who owns the media.
Non-mainstream media reports that up to 95% of Americans strongly support Biden.
Mainstream media is invested in the opposite point of view.
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Sympthsical (1,766 posts)
17. Because it didn't go well
Sorry, but it didn't. Complaining about the media nonstop accomplishes little. Our allies are appalled with how it's all gone. (The German government has a lot to say).
There are still tens of thousands of Westerners in-country with no easy or even perceivable path out. There are reports that the British military wants to throttle the Americans over what is happening at the airport.
It's a lot of political damage.
I'm with Biden. We needed to get out.
But the execution is just . . . not great. We're going to find out why. What did our intelligence, both civilian and military, know? Who reported what to whom? How much did the administration know? How much should it have known? We already have three committees headed by Democrats looking into it. They're not happy either. When Congressional leaders aren't happy, you know it's bad.
But man, there's a whole lot of this going on right now, it seems:
Star Member Hoyt (49,852 posts)
29. Absolutely. People seem to want the media to cover this up. It was a poor execution of the correct
decision to withdraw.
Don't see how the execution of the withdrawal plan, assuming there was a plan, can be blamed on others.
Biden could have easily announced that he was delaying the withdrawal a month or two because additional troops and air support -- as a rear guard -- were needed because trump drew the troops down too far. He could have also said that he did not think trump's "agreement" with the Taliban could not be relied upon.
Instead, Biden said this would not be like Saigon. That video and people clinging to the plane will be run 24/7 right up to the 2022 elections (which is just over a year away) and in 2024.
I am glad Biden is sending in additional troops and appears to be taking decisive action now.
ProfessorPlum (11,097 posts)
23. Charlie Pierce does
"The only one who got it right was the president.
And the more stories I read from anonymous sources at the Pentagon or in what is laughingly called the intelligence “community,” the more I think that what’s driving this heated C-Y-A effort is that the president called bullshit on what everybody was telling him and acted on what was right there before his eyes. He pulled the emergency brake on the damn gravy train.
Believe this. Almost everything you’re reading on this topic in elite publications is an effort by somebody somewhere to duck out of their responsibility for 20 years of fantasy and illusion and outright lies. Craig Whitlock of the Washington Post called all of them out when he printed the so-called “Afghanistan Papers.” Anything that is attributed to the various anonymous sources that is in any way contradicted by Whitlock’s work is simply not to be trusted."
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Star Member helpisontheway (4,474 posts)
32. They have barely said a word about Iraq and Afghanistan for years
Now it is nonstop because they finally found a way to knock Biden down. All along foreign policy was supposed to be his strength so they want to weaken him. Just as military service was John Kerry’s strength when he was running but the media helped them make it seem like a weakness. They tried to destroy Obama with Reverend Wright but it did not work.
Locutusofborg (368 posts)
34. Whatever goes right during an administration
the president gets the credit for (whether he deserves it or not). And whatever goes wrong during an administration, the president shoulders the blame (whether he deserves it or not). Not unlike the quarterback of a football team.
:whatever:
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This just in...
Joe Biden's State Department moved to cancel a critical State Department program aimed at providing swift and safe evacuations of Americans out of crisis zones just months prior to the fall of Kabul, The National Pulse can exclusively reveal.
The "Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau" -- which was designed to handle medical, diplomatic, and logistical support concerning Americans overseas was paused by Anthony Blinken's State Department earlier this year. Notification was officially signed just months before the Taliban's takeover of Afghanistan.
"SENSITIVE BUT UNCLASSIFIED," an official State Department document from the Biden State Department begins, before outlining the following move the quash the Trump-era funding for the new bureau.
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The document is dated June 11, 2021, though The National Pulse understands the decision to pause the program may have come as early as February, both undermining the original Trump-era date for the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, and certainly giving the Taliban time to threaten American assets and lives on the run up to Joe Biden's September 11th date of withdrawal.
https://thenationalpulse.com/exclusive/bidens-state-dept-halted-trump-era-crisis-response-plan/
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Rather simple, really. The evacuation Cluster-F in Afghanistan was a totally avoidable Cluster-F, and it's LIEden's avoidable Cluster-F!
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