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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: NRAInstructor on August 05, 2021, 08:04:14 AM

Title: Question...
Post by: NRAInstructor on August 05, 2021, 08:04:14 AM
Since when is the CDC a lawmaking body?
Title: Re: Question...
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on August 05, 2021, 08:17:25 AM
It's like that area between the vagina and anus...

't ain't
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Post by: Eupher on August 05, 2021, 08:28:24 AM
The CDC got spanked for its "conditional" order stopping the cruise industry as well.

11th Circuit reversed that order and told the CDC to go stand in the ****ing corner and not come out till they can play nice.
Title: Re: Question...
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on August 05, 2021, 08:34:00 AM
The CDC got spanked for its "conditional" order stopping the cruise industry as well.

11th Circuit reversed that order and told the CDC to go stand in the ****ing corner and not come out till they can play nice.

Here's what I want to know: What if a property owner proceeds with eviction during the illegal moratorium?
Title: Re: Question...
Post by: Eupher on August 05, 2021, 09:09:31 AM
Here's what I want to know: What if a property owner proceeds with eviction during the illegal moratorium?


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“… a person violating this Order may be subject to a fine of no more than $100,000 if the violation does not result in a death or one year in jail, or both, or a fine of no more than $250,000 if the violation results in a death or one year in jail, or both, or as otherwise provided by law.”

CDC's author-i-tay: Section 361 of the Public Health Service Act:
 https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R46758 (https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R46758)

This link gives some good information on the issue:

https://www.turbotenant.com/blog/cdc-eviction-moratorium/
Title: Re: Question...
Post by: DLR Pyro on August 05, 2021, 09:52:47 AM
Here's what I want to know: What if a property owner proceeds with eviction during the illegal moratorium?
I would imagine it to be a winner considering the matter already has a favorable ruling from SCOTUS assuming the cause for eviction is legit.
Title: Re: Question...
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on August 05, 2021, 10:14:09 AM

CDC's author-i-tay: Section 361 of the Public Health Service Act:
 https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R46758 (https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R46758)

This link gives some good information on the issue:

https://www.turbotenant.com/blog/cdc-eviction-moratorium/

But that's not constitutional.
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Post by: NRAInstructor on August 05, 2021, 10:17:49 AM
But that's not constitutional.

It doesn't need to be.  "Might makes right".  Remember, every single thing Hitler did was perfectly legal.
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Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on August 05, 2021, 10:47:20 AM
It doesn't need to be.  "Might makes right".  Remember, every single thing Hitler did was perfectly legal.

I'm just trying to imagine the courts affirming a penalty on a rule that has already been struck down.
Title: Re: Question...
Post by: freedumb2003b on August 05, 2021, 11:02:40 AM
Here's what I want to know: What if a property owner proceeds with eviction during the illegal moratorium?

If I was a LL I would absolutely do that.  Time to challenge when you are aggrieved and have standing.  Even if the government offers to pay that is not the issue.  You do not have to accept an insurance settlement if you think it is not in your best interest such as higher premiums in the long run or if it is too low.

Make the justice system enforce the Administrative Agency CDC's diktat.

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Post by: Eupher on August 05, 2021, 11:09:03 AM
But that's not constitutional.

Of course it isn't. But it didn't stop President Asterisk from doubling down on the mandate by extending it -- yet again.

There is some argument against Kavanaugh for being flimsy in his initial statement that it wasn't constitutional (but it's OK for now and don't do it again, CDC, or we'll take your toys away from you) and that any further extension required legislation. Asterisk basically told SCOTUS to pound sand, I'll do what I want.

Being less than forceful in allowing the moratorium to stand is an invitation for the Dems to keep doing what they habitually do. SCOTUS is even more squishy than establishment republicans.
Title: The Bill Comes Due After the DOJ Capitalizes on Kavanaugh's Cowardice
Post by: Eupher on August 06, 2021, 04:50:11 PM
The price of ambiguity, Brett. You ****ed up and the landlords are gonna pay that price. Congratulations, asshole. With "conservative" justices like you, who the hell needs another Sotomayor? Or Roberts?

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Kavanaugh created a path for Joe Biden and the CDC to essentially game the system, bankrupting more landlords before any new challenge can make it through the courts. Biden admitted yesterday that is their plan.

https://republicandaily.net/2021/08/the-bill-comes-due-after-the-doj-capitalizes-on-brett-kavanaughs-cowardice/ (https://republicandaily.net/2021/08/the-bill-comes-due-after-the-doj-capitalizes-on-brett-kavanaughs-cowardice/)
Title: Re: The Bill Comes Due After the DOJ Capitalizes on Kavanaugh's Cowardice
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on August 06, 2021, 05:05:15 PM
The price of ambiguity, Brett. You ****ed up and the landlords are gonna pay that price. Congratulations, asshole. With "conservative" justices like you, who the hell needs another Sotomayor? Or Roberts?

How much do you want to bet it was 100% naivete?

I'd wager they never once entertained for a moment the idea the illegitimate regime would be so brazen. Give the old duffer an easy-out in the name of civility and comity; trying to calm and already charged political atmosphere - then...

WHAM!

I wonder how many times they'll let themselves be humiliated like this.
Title: Re: The Bill Comes Due After the DOJ Capitalizes on Kavanaugh's Cowardice
Post by: Eupher on August 06, 2021, 06:37:37 PM
How much do you want to bet it was 100% naivete?

I'd wager they never once entertained for a moment the idea the illegitimate regime would be so brazen. Give the old duffer an easy-out in the name of civility and comity; trying to calm and already charged political atmosphere - then...

WHAM!

I wonder how many times they'll let themselves be humiliated like this.

He gets no mulligans from me, dammit. As much as he's getting paid and with as much shit as the leftists put him through during his nomination hearings, he needs to OWN that shit.