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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: Eupher on July 26, 2021, 10:55:09 AM
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OK, Pelousy insists on forming a partisan witch hunt committee or commission that is supposed to investigate 1/6. We all know that's bullshit. The only reason for her walking down that path is to keep DJT front and center with the Dem media and to stave off examination of President *'s failed policies and poor job performance.
Pelousy kicked Jim Jordan and Jim Banks off the committee, largely because of the questions that Banks had floated to CNN, questioning Pelousy's failure to secure the Capitol Building despite having received information that would make it necessary to beef said security up.
McCarthy, in turn, basically said, "**** you, Nancy. I'm pulling ALL of the Republicans off this sham committee you have going. And we'll do our own investigation."
But now, Pelousy crooks a finger and directs RINOs Cheney and Kinzinger to serve on this bullshit committee, all in the guise of "bipartisanship."
WTF?
Can Pelousy direct minority party appointments to committees/commissions and overrule the Minority Leader? Why have a Minority Leader (McCarthy) if the Speaker won't let him lead?
What part of this am I not understanding? :o
https://www.gopusa.com/rigged-selection-pelosi-appoints-gop-trump-hater-to-join-liz-cheney-on-jan-6-committee/
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Cheney and Kinzinger say, "But we just had to follow the orders of the Speaker."
McCarthy should hold a vote to eject the two of them from the party if they accept the appointments.
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China Mitch and Charley McCarthy are just democrat boot lickers.
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McCarthy should hold a vote to eject the two of them from the party if they accept the appointments.
The worst that McCarthy can do to Cheny is pull her off the House Armed Services Committee. He can't eject her from the party. She can quit the party, but she can't be thrown out. The party can later refuse to endorse her in her reelection campaign or take other matters that ensures she is defeated, but McCarthy alone doesn't have that power.
Kinzinger serves on the House Energy and Commerce Committee and on the House Foreign Affairs Committee. Pulling him off those committees would slap him in the face, but there's no doubt that the House Armed Services Committee is the more prestigious gig. Ditto for kicking him out of the party. McCarthy can't do it by himself.
https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/35473/can-an-american-political-party-kick-out-a-member
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In the history of Congress, no Speaker has ever removed whoever the Minority Leader has picked to serve on a Congressional investigatory-committee.
So it must be a case of Cheney & Kinzinger 'volunteering'... which would also be an historical first... since there are empty chairs.
I predict the committee will go Humpty-Dumpty the first day. Then become a series of daily methane-releases.
In order to protect Pelosi's involvement, the case will have to start 'in the middle', during the 'riot'. I'm no prosecuting-attorney but that strategy is a recipe for horizonless meandering.
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So it must be a case of Cheney & Kinzinger 'volunteering'... which would also be an historical first... since there are empty chairs.
How can Cheney and Kinzinger be "volunteering" when the Minority Leader has already made the statement that Republicans would not serve on Pelousy's witch hunt and deflection-from-the-truth campaign?
I've not read anywhere in the past several days that suggests that Cheney and Kinzinger "volunteered." What they've done is dance to Pelousy's tune and make themselves "available" which, I guess could be argued, that they "volunteered." But volunteering for a task when appointed and elected leadership indicates "THERE WILL BE NO PARTICIPATION BY THE MINORITY PARTY" that "volunteering" becomes more like "**** McCarthy and the GOP."
There should be only one response to that - oust them from their committees (much like Pelousy did to to MTG) and otherwise put the apparatus in motion for the GOP (should Ronna McDaniel grow a pair, which is highly doubtful) to withhold support from those two.
Bonchie says at the link that McCarthy can remove those two turds from the GOP caucus, which sounds intriguing -- but I highly doubt that he has the 'nads to do it. But I'd love to be wrong.
RedState (https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/07/26/kevin-mccarthy-goes-there-in-scathing-comments-about-liz-cheney-n416732?utm_source=rsafternoonbriefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&bcid=54b311e9e985a52310aeaad8e21af0fc)
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In the history of Congress, no Speaker has ever removed whoever the Minority Leader has picked to serve on a Congressional investigatory-committee.
I predict the committee will go Humpty-Dumpty the first day. Then become a series of daily methane-releases.
In order to protect Pelosi's involvement, the case will have to start 'in the middle', during the 'riot'. I'm no prosecuting-attorney but that strategy is a recipe for horizonless meandering.
Agreed. It's an exercise in obfuscation and smoke-and-mirrors designed to do two things:
1. Blame DJT for the whole damned thing.
2. Deflect from Pelousy's own responsibilities, and otherwise cover up what really happened. The FBI involvement could very well be real, but Pelousy's pre-determined outcome would never go there.
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How can Cheney and Kinzinger be "volunteering" when the Minority Leader has already made the statement that Republicans would not serve on Pelousy's witch hunt and deflection-from-the-truth campaign?
I've not read anywhere in the past several days that suggests that Cheney and Kinzinger "volunteered." What they've done is dance to Pelousy's tune and make themselves "available" which, I guess could be argued, that they "volunteered." But volunteering for a task when appointed and elected leadership indicates "THERE WILL BE NO PARTICIPATION BY THE MINORITY PARTY" that "volunteering" becomes more like "**** McCarthy and the GOP."
There should be only one response to that - oust them from their committees (much like Pelousy did to to MTG) and otherwise put the apparatus in motion for the GOP (should Ronna McDaniel grow a pair, which is highly doubtful) to withhold support from those two.
Bonchie says at the link that McCarthy can remove those two turds from the GOP caucus, which sounds intriguing -- but I highly doubt that he has the 'nads to do it. But I'd love to be wrong.
RedState (https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/07/26/kevin-mccarthy-goes-there-in-scathing-comments-about-liz-cheney-n416732?utm_source=rsafternoonbriefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&bcid=54b311e9e985a52310aeaad8e21af0fc)
I used quotation-marks for 'volunteering'... You were asking a legal-question, if anyone knew anything about possible precedence for c & k serving on the Committee. Since Pelosi told George Stephanopoulos that she 'invited' c & k, I said 'volunteering' because there may be some longstanding House-wording about how empty seats can be occupied. I didn't mean that they literally volunteered. If I did, I wouldn't have used quotation-marks. Okay, I should've originally said they accepted the Speaker's invitation... if that's even a thing. I don't remember Pelosi verbally inviting Cheney.
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I used quotation-marks for 'volunteering'... You were asking a legal-question, if anyone knew anything about possible precedence for c & k serving on the Committee. Since Pelosi told George Stephanopoulos that she 'invited' c & k, I said 'volunteering' because there may be some longstanding House-wording about how empty seats can be occupied. I didn't mean that they literally volunteered. If I did, I wouldn't have used quotation-marks. Okay, I should've originally said they accepted the Speaker's invitation... if that's even a thing. I don't remember Pelosi verbally inviting Cheney.
I think what it really comes down to is this:
- Pelousy breaks with long-standing tradition, if not actual rule, that the Speaker or Majority Whip will NOT assign specific minority party members to "bipartisan" committees. This being the case, we're talking about unfettered war when the Repubs gain control of the House. All gloves come off -- that is, if the Repubs can actually grow a pair, which I frankly doubt.
- Cheney and Kinzinger will be, again if McCarthy can grow a pair, stripped of their committees. I frankly doubt that McCarthy would go so far as to oust them from the GOP caucus. In a razor-thin situation such as it is, that would be cutting off his nose to spite his face.
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/05/liz_cheney_reportedly_acts_like_a_pig_not_just_to_trump_but_to_other_republicans_and_may_lose_her_gop_post_soon.html
May 3, 2021
Liz Cheney reportedly acts like a pig, not just to Trump, but to other Republicans, and may lose her GOP post soon
Charley McCarthy is too WEAK to make A decision.
In Cheney’s view, the House GOP would embrace the more traditional, establishment positions of former House Speakers John Boehner and Paul Ryan. In Banks’ vision, Republicans would embrace the working-class coalition Donald Trump established in 2016.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/05/liz-cheney-derides-jim-banks-gop-working-class-memo-neo-marxist/
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The only thing more dangerous than liberals to our cause, our party, and our country, are our RINOs.