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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on July 22, 2021, 05:58:25 PM
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Star Member Hekate (69,743 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215649885
Should hospitals be allowed to turn away patients based on race, creed, suspected gayness...
… being trans, or in the case of women, suspicion her claimed miscarriage might instead be a botched abortion?
Because, people, this is where you are going when you demand hospitals turn away the suspected unvaccinated.
Would really like your thoughts.
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Star Member elleng (107,782 posts)
4. No, and they are NOT the same things.
Star Member Aristus (56,024 posts)
5. Race, creed, gayness, and abortions are not infectious.
And the first three are not chosen characteristics.
Just as one can choose not to get vaccinated, one can also choose to get vaccinated. And if one wants admittance into the presence of human beings who don't want to die of COVID-19, making the choice sooner rather than later is a good idea.
Goodheart (3,867 posts)
10. Your analogies make no sense.
Somebody's race can't infect other patients.
Somebody's creed can't infect other patients,
Somebody's gayness can't infect other patients.
Somebody's botched abortion can't infect other patients.
Somebody's failure to vaccinate CAN infect other patients.
How in the world did you think those conditions should all be treated the same?
Star Member Hekate (69,743 posts)
14. There is solid precedent, btw, in the "conscience clauses" demanded by the Evangelicals ...
… and inserted during Dubya’s administration. All you have to do is follow it to a logical conclusion. There are plenty of people in this country who believe everything I listed is a personal choice and it offends them so much they’re just fine if people suffer and die for it.
AND I READ ITERATIONS OF THAT EVERY DAY AT DU
Star Member Crunchy Frog (24,311 posts)
16. I would guess that most people saying that are just venting, because many of us
are really enraged at the fact that a significant portion of the population, mostly FOX viewing Trumpers/Qanon, are making the choice to keep the pandemic in this country going, and essentially holding the rest of the country hostage. And then they get sick because of their choice, and end up costing a huge amount in money and especially in the time and energy of medical workers who are already quitting in large number due to burn out from the previous waves of infection.
So no, I don't believe that they should be denied treatment, or turned away from hospitals, and I doubt that very many people on here genuinely think they should. However, I might express that sentiment on some posts, just because of how angry I am at their shenanigans.
Edit: This is the sort of thing that makes many of us so angry.
Star Member lagomorph777 (24,216 posts)
18. Bullshit.
Star Member roamer65 (27,575 posts)
28. As a highly communicable disease threat, they should go to separate COVID facilities.
They should NOT be in the same buildings as uninfected or immunocompromised persons. They will infect them.
The viral load of a Delta variant infectee is around 1260 times that of a original strain one.
We wouldn’t have an Ebola or SARS-CoV-1 infectee in the same facilities, either.
Star Member JustFiveMoreMinutes (2,118 posts)
29. I am loving the option to 'Trash This Tread'! Silly post based on nonsense! Get a job on Fox News!
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"whiteness"
The defense rests.
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DUmmies are willfully ignorant. most reports of unvaccinated people show that the majority of them tend to be POC who have other reasons for distrusting the government.
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DUmmies are willfully ignorant. most reports of unvaccinated people show that the majority of them tend to be POC who have other reasons for distrusting the government.
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/
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HEY DUMBASSES. That link above says:
Persistently lower vaccination rates among Black and Hispanic people compared to their White counterparts across most states leave them at increased risk, particularly as the variant spreads.
Your unrelenting demonization of this chunk of population will bite you in the ass.
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Star Member Aristus (56,024 posts)
5. Race, creed, gayness, and abortions are not infectious.
Goodheart (3,867 posts)
10. Your analogies make no sense.
Somebody's race can't infect other patients.
Somebody's creed can't infect other patients,
Somebody's gayness can't infect other patients.
Somebody's botched abortion can't infect other patients.
Somebody's failure to vaccinate CAN infect other patients.
How in the world did you think those conditions should all be treated the same?
If creeds aren't infectious, why y'all so vehement about shutting up Christians? Just asking.
Can have some fun pointing out that an awful lot of homosexuals were abused by other homosexuals early in life too. Not all, not always sexually, but the numbers are pretty high if you can find an honest study.
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HEY DUMBASSES. That link above says:
Persistently lower vaccination rates among Black and Hispanic people compared to their White counterparts across most states leave them at increased risk, particularly as the variant spreads.
Your unrelenting demonization of this chunk of population will bite you in the ass.
So vaccination rates among Black and Hispanic people compared to their White counterparts across most states are NOT lower? Or as a result they are not at increased risk?
Not what I am reading - perhaps you have different information?