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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on June 30, 2021, 08:45:41 AM
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Johnny2X2X (10,937 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215573670
BREAKING NEWS: Joe Biden got over 81 Million votes.
All I hear over and over on TV is that "75 Million people voted for Donald Trump."
Well it wasn't 75 Million, it was 74 Million. And what about those 81 Million + that voted for Joe Biden? How come we aren't doing human interest pieces on the "hidden Biden voter"???
And why do they keep rounding up to 75 Million for Trump, Biden was closer to 82 Million than Trump was to 75 Million.
Biden-Harris 81.268,924 votes
Trump-Pence- 74,216,154 votes
So sick of people acting like 74 Million Trump voters are a big story, but 81 Million Biden voters aren't. Where are the "forgotten Americans" stories on Joe Biden's 81 Million voters? This group of people came out and took America back from the brink of a dictatorship, each and everyone of these voters deserves a thank you.
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Star Member Tommy Carcetti (40,062 posts)
1. Also the Former Office Occupant loves to say he got more votes than any other sitting President.
Well, Joe Biden's the sitting President now, and he got more votes than him, so...
Star Member subterranean (3,297 posts)
19. Ya know who else got more votes than any other sitting President?
Barack Obama
George W. Bush
Ronald Reagan
Richard Nixon
LBJ
Dwight Eisenhower
FDR
Except they didn't go around boasting about it.
I guess TFG can rightfully claim that he was the first to get more votes than any other sitting President and still LOSE.
Mike Nelson (7,991 posts)
2. During the last term... the one where Hillary won the vote & The Donald won the Electoral College to become president, the media always reminded us of the Trump voters. They were important, dammit! I don't recall anyone too concerned about the Hillary voters - and they were the majority!
moose65 (2,100 posts)
18. Amazing, isn't it?
Since 1992, Republicans have only won more votes in the Presidential election once, in 2004. George W. Bush got about 3 million more votes than Kerry. Since 2004, it hasn't even been close:
2008: Obama beat McCain by 9.5 million votes.
2012: Obama beat Romney by 5 million votes.
2016: Clinton beat Trump by 3 million votes.
2020: Biden beat Trump by 7 million votes.
The people want a Democratic president.
AleksS (1,499 posts)
12. YUP! There have NEVER been more Trump voters than anti-Trump voters. But you wouldn't know it!
You'd never guess that Trump voters were always the minority share. But they always have been.
Star Member robbob (2,905 posts)
11. TFG says that it's mathematically impossible for Biden to get 81 million votes!
And he’s really really really good at math! Some say the best!!!
Star Member brush (35,965 posts)
9. Yes, we took the nation back from the hands of an out-of-control lunatic, wannabe dictator.
It's becoming more and more obvious how close trump is to incoherence.
Star Member IronLionZion (33,345 posts)
29. Why are Trump voters worth more than Biden voters?
Because rural white people are worth more than urban or minority voters or white liberals. Why are they worth more is the real question.
This is a great opportunity for white liberals to ask why their votes are worth less than white conservatives. Or for the swing voters to be asked why they left Trump to vote for Biden. That is some human interest that is worth learning about.
Star Member Martin Eden (10,725 posts)
32. To me, Trump's 74 million voters are a story ...
... because that many people voting for a pathologically lying malignant narcissist who is mentally and morally unfit for any position of public authority points ro a real problem in the American electorate.
Of course, it's a matter of HOW this story is covered.
Trying to normalize Trump and his voters only serves to validate him and them. Coverage needs to start with the premise that Trump is an abomination.
Star Member Yavin4 (32,947 posts)
41. See AM radio. Fox News. Sinclair broadcasting.
Right wing propaganda outlets are numerous and cover a vast amount of people. The only counter to that empire is social media which does have a lot of conservatives but is not 100% under the control of conservatives which drives them nuts. They can only deal with media outlets that never pushes back on their bullshit.
It's not a surprise that 74 million Americans fell for Trump given this amount of right wing media power.
erpowers (9,146 posts)
72. After Seeing Brian Stelter's Clip About Watching Sean Hannity's Show for A Week
After seeing Brian Stelter's clip about watching Sean Hannity's show for a week I can understand what you are saying. If you have been told not to watch channels like CNN and MSNBC and the only places you get your information from are AM radio, Fox New, and Sinclair broadcasting stations you can end up being misinformed.
I was seeing Republicans tweet about how horrible things are in American cities and I would think where are these people getting this information and their news. I then looked at Brian Stelter's clip and thought, "now I know why there are people claiming American cities are currently a disaster."
I think there were a large number of misinformed people voting in the 2020 election. I think a number of people voted for Trump based on false information. There was one woman who stated she used to vote for the Democratic Party until she learned about Democratic Party pedophile scandal. How many more people were like that woman? How many people voted for Trump because they were told and believed Joe Biden was a secret Socialist? How many people voted for Trump because they were told and believed Joe Biden was in mental decline?
Star Member Rocknation (44,065 posts)
34. As I've been pointing out since January (and in the immortal words of Condi Rice)
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what "nobody could have anticipated" was 26 million people voting Democrat or Republican in 2020 who DIDN'T vote in 2016. That's where Duh Don got the 11 million "additional" votes that put him at 74 million. Unfortunately for Trump, it is also from where Biden got FIFTEEN million of the votes which put him at 81 million!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14890483
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Star Member Yavin4 (32,947 posts)
38. Maybe Biden voters don't eat at Diners.
Would explain why NY Times reporters cannot find any.
Star Member ancianita (23,284 posts)
44. 81 MILLION Americans beat back red state purges and suppressions in 2020, and WILL
DO IT AGAIN IN 2022!
YO, MEDIA! WE 81 MILLION ARE THE STORY!
JOIN THE SANE SOCIETY!
JOIN THE 21ST CENTURY!
bringthePaine (748 posts)
50. refuKKKchickens hate minorities - being a minority drives 'em bug****
RANDYWILDMAN (1,134 posts)
64. So sick of those 81 million people begging for scraps
it's not like they run all the government
We still need to get rid of the stupid electoral college !!!!!
Johnny2X2X (10,937 posts)
73. It's about the end of truth
Trump got 74 Million votes, don't let them get away with saying 75 Million votes.
:whatever:
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:whatever:
Once again, DU showing that no amount of favoritism from the media is enough.
Mike Nelson (7,991 posts)
2. During the last term... the one where Hillary won the vote & The Donald won the Electoral College to become president, the media always reminded us of the Trump voters. They were important, dammit! I don't recall anyone too concerned about the Hillary voters - and they were the majority!
:thatsright:
Because people tend to pay more attention to the majority of voters by default. There's no need to bring more attention to them.
erpowers (9,146 posts)
72. After Seeing Brian Stelter's Clip About Watching Sean Hannity's Show for A Week
After seeing Brian Stelter's clip about watching Sean Hannity's show for a week I can understand what you are saying. If you have been told not to watch channels like CNN and MSNBC and the only places you get your information from are AM radio, Fox New, and Sinclair broadcasting stations you can end up being misinformed.
I was seeing Republicans tweet about how horrible things are in American cities and I would think where are these people getting this information and their news. I then looked at Brian Stelter's clip and thought, "now I know why there are people claiming American cities are currently a disaster."
I think there were a large number of misinformed people voting in the 2020 election. I think a number of people voted for Trump based on false information. There was one woman who stated she used to vote for the Democratic Party until she learned about Democratic Party pedophile scandal. How many more people were like that woman? How many people voted for Trump because they were told and believed Joe Biden was a secret Socialist? How many people voted for Trump because they were told and believed Joe Biden was in mental decline?
1. Most conservatives are exposed to left-leaning new sources, whether they want to be or not. Left-leaning sources are ubiquitous and inescapable.
2. Disinformation about Trump is far more pervasive and damaging than false information against Biden. How many millions of people voted for Biden/against Trump as a result of disinformation about Trump or the omission of unflattering stories about Biden? Also, the mental decline of Biden is something people could conclude based on what they see. This isn't helped by attempts to keep Biden out of the limelight.
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I don't know what happened for certain in the 2020 election, but there had to have been some funny things going on.
Trump was holding multiple rallies where thousands upon thousands were showing up.
Biden stayed in his basement where his on-line campaign speeches attracted only a few thousand at a time. When he did do in-person rallies, it was to a few dozen people parked in their cars.
Stats naturally say that someone who can't even draw a crowd to hear him speak, or also on-line in this case, can't garner 81 million votes. I would say it's impossible.
Also, let's look at total voters in the most recent presidential races (rounded off).
2004 - 122,500,000 voters
2008 - 131,500,000 voters (up 9,000,000)
2012 - 129,000,000 voters (down 2,500,000)
2016 - 137,000,000 voters (up 8,000,000)
2020 - 159,500,000 voters (up 21,500,000)
21+ million more!?! That sets off bells and whistles alone. That's not normal. Even with all the hate directed towards Trump for over 4 years, 21 million more voters than the previous election is not a believable result.
It's not hard to figure out why millions upon millions upon millions are questioning the election results.
Unless, of course, it favors what you want to believe regardless.
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So far, DUms seem pretty realistic about the New York Primary fiasco, which totally fell-apart yesterday.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142763105
But not much criticism of Democrats running it, who had to decertify everything, wipe their servers, and are now retabulating the numbers with every State Dem watching them. Disgraceful.
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So far, DUms seem pretty realistic about the New York Primary fiasco, which totally fell-apart yesterday.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142763105
But not much criticism of Democrats running it, who had to decertify everything, wipe their servers, and are now retabulating the numbers with every State Dem watching them. Disgraceful.
Reminds me of the Iowa Caucus.
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Cinnamonspice
76. There are 168.31 million people registered to vote in the United States.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/273743/number-of-registered-voters-in-the-united-states/
168,310,000 registered voters in 2020. 158,383,403 votes total for prez. 94% participation rate.
Less and less believable all the time. 94% is approaching Saddam Hussein voter participation numbers (100%).
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The US Constitution has no provision for removing a President from office due to vote fraud. So regardless of what the Maricopa County and other audits might find, Biden's not leaving the WH. So all DUpipo's hand-wringing signifies is that they believe there was large-scale vote fraud in the 2020 Presidential election. No surprise in that.
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The US Constitution has no provision for removing a President from office due to vote fraud. So regardless of what the Maricopa County and other audits might find, Biden's not leaving the WH. So all DUpipo's hand-wringing signifies is that they believe there was large-scale vote fraud in the 2020 Presidential election. No surprise in that.
It's unrealistic to fault the Founding Fathers for not anticipating mass-cheating, so SCOTUS better hurry-back in session pronto. Most likely finding fault in a 'political party' who's incapable of policing itself. They'd only need a few key cases.
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BREAKING NEWS: Joe Biden got over 81 Million votes.
Some of those votes were even from living people, some of them were even from U.S. citizens, some of them were even from people who wanted to vote for Biden...some but certainly not all.
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It's unrealistic to fault the Founding Fathers for not anticipating mass-cheating ...
I wasn't faulting them, actually, just pointing out where things stand. I think the FFs had high expectations of future citizens, expectations that have been violated the past 3 decades or so (at least).
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Johnny2X2X (10,937 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215573670
BREAKING NEWS: Joe Biden got over 81 Million votes. from now diseased former republicans.
All I hear over and over on TV is that "75 Million people voted for Donald Trump." And all were alive and citizens.