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Title: Another Missouri thread that will die early
Post by: Kc25 on June 17, 2021, 11:07:15 AM
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215535757


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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/justice-dept-sends-letter-to-missouri-governor-says-state-cant-void-federal-gun-laws/vi-AAL95Gq?ocid=mailsignout
A sub-thread about "whataboutism" already popped and pretty much demonstrated hypocrisy pretty clearly...

Title: Re: Another Missouri thread that will die early
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on June 17, 2021, 12:42:50 PM
A relevant passage or two:

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Hardhead1234 (2 posts)

5. Questions about the law

While I agree that states should not be able to disregard federal law how is what Missouri is doing any different than states that have passed recreational marijuana laws? I realize they are specifically banning police from enforcing federal law in this case but isn't legalizing recreational marijuana at the state level the same thing but done a different way. And yes marijuana should be legalized federally. Just trying understand the difference legally.

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Fullduplexxx (4,714 posts)

6. Whataboutisms are frowned on here


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MarineCombatEngineer (4,226 posts)

8. Maybe so,

but the analogy is correct, if states can ignore immigration laws, marijauana laws, then states can refuse to enforce Fed. firearm laws by not providing any resources to the Feds, like facilities, personnel, etc, they just can't interfere in the enforcement of those laws by the Feds.

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sarisataka (12,224 posts)

9. Especially uncomfortable ones

Although I expect this is a one post wonder, the question is valid.

If a state can invalidate Federal law A, why cannot another state invalidate Federal law B. Or if the first state is sanctioned for interference with Federal law enforcement should the other state be sanctioned?

The specific law is not relevant to the setting of precedent.

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Fullduplexxx (4,714 posts)

13. I agree and I think whataboutisms are usually valid points

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sarisataka (12,224 posts)

16. We are on the same page

Often people will cry whataboutism because they know they can't honestly answer the question without admitting bias and/or hypocrisy.

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Title: Re: Another Missouri thread that will die early
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on June 17, 2021, 12:58:16 PM
A relevant passage or two:

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm actually amazed sarisataka still has an account there.
Title: Re: Another Missouri thread that will die early
Post by: Kc25 on June 17, 2021, 12:59:57 PM
I'm actually amazed sarisataka still has an account there.

They're going to swarm alert him like they did discnt-irony-sarcasm
Title: Re: Another Missouri thread that will die early
Post by: SVPete on June 17, 2021, 01:12:47 PM
sarisataka being a voice of sanity? :o

Fixed an auto-incorrection
Title: Re: Another Missouri thread that will die early
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on June 17, 2021, 01:19:07 PM
sarisataka being a votive of sanity? :o

Actually, I think he/she is quite reasonable when compared to the rest of those idiots.
Title: Re: Another Missouri thread that will die early
Post by: Kc25 on June 17, 2021, 01:49:50 PM
Actually, I think he/she is quite reasonable when compared to the rest of those idiots.

At least when it comes to the 2A, he does not demonstrate the same rabid lunacy that most of the DUmmies over there.
Title: Re: Another Missouri thread that will die early
Post by: Old n Grumpy on June 17, 2021, 01:50:01 PM
If you understand the firearms business and understand gun laws the whole thing is absurd.

First the most restrictive laws and regulations are unique to each state.
Second there is no way you could be involved in dealing any quantity of guns without a federal license.
As for the manufacturing part if you decide to be an unlicensed manufacturer the BATF will be on your ass like flies on sugar, specially if you are building machine guns , silencers or other highly regulated items.