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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on June 12, 2021, 08:45:07 AM
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edhopper (27,574 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215520397
The Trump Administration was so corrupt that
it is an open question of who ordered the surveillance of reporters and members of Congress.
"It might not have been Trump" because it literally could have been any senior member of that crime syndicate.
Star Member ProudMNDemocrat (9,299 posts)
1. How obvious is it now that Trump ran his Administration like a Mob family
All things point to Trump.
:thatsright:
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But St. Jugears the Stutterer ordering candidate Trump to be spied on is perfectly fine with them.
Liberals disgust me.
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The Trump Administration was so corrupt that
it is an open question of who ordered the surveillance of reporters and members of Congress.
I know! I know! The judge who approved the subpoena, :lmao: . :tongue:
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The Trump Administration was so corrupt that
it is an open question of who ordered the surveillance of reporters and members of Congress.
"It might not have been Trump" because it literally could have been any senior member of that crime syndicate.
The spying was probably just continued from the Obama Regime and carried forward.
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I’m still waiting for Adam Schiff to produce the hard evidence of Trump Russia collision.
Maybe that’s why they were investigating him, to find out where he’s keeping it.
KC
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> could have been any senior member of that crime syndicate.
To be so stupid requires one to be a wise DUmole or a real bonified DUmmy!
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edhopper (27,574 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215520397
The Trump Administration was so corrupt that
After 4 years of trying and 2 attempts at impeachment they weren't able to find 1 thing he did that broke the law. while on their side the list is endless. :thatsright: :loser: :loser: :loser: :loser:
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After 4 years of trying and 2 attempts at impeachment they weren't able to find 1 thing he did that broke the law. while on their side the list is endless. :thatsright: :loser: :loser: :loser: :loser:
Exactly. The DUmbasses keep claiming that President Trump and his administration were corrupt but can never give specifics on what they did to back up the corruption claims.
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People don't bother looking for the actual facts.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3y6Jo5WUAQnKUN?format=jpg&name=small)
As pointed out by Orin Kerr, law professor at Berkley.
Reporters looking into the Schiff and McGhan investigations should be making sure that when they report about “subpoenas,” they actually mean subpoenas and not 18 U.S.C. § 2703(d) orders (which are served like subpoenas). The latter are a lot more invasive than the former.
To make a long ECPA short, subpoenas are largely unregulated but can’t (in the Internet context) get the govt much. An account name, IP addresses it was assigned, not much else.
But 2703(d) orders are more like warrants: a judge needs to sign off on it and its showing of cause. And it can get all non-content transactional records of the account, like who you contacted and when.
If you’re an investigator and you want to know who a suspect communicated with, a 2703(d) order tells you that for that account; a subpoena doesn’t. Pretty big difference.
If DOJ only got a subpoena for X, that plausibly means someone else was the suspect (the subject of a 2703d order), revealing contacts with X’s account, and then a subpoena just to see who X is.
But if DOJ got a 2703d order for X’s account, it plausibly means X was a suspect and DOJ went to a judge and made the case for why there may be evidence in X’s contacts.
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Basic translation of what really happened.
The DOJ was investigating a staffer. And as par the course, they sought out contacts that staffer had. Nothing more.
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On DU and among DU-grade Progs, facts inconsistent with narrative are Reich-Wing and rejected and ignored.
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Exactly. The DUmbasses keep claiming that President Trump and his administration were corrupt but can never give specifics on what they did to back up the corruption claims.
Trump is so corrupt that DUers are actually unable to verbally process what is so corrupt about him. :whatever: