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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on May 17, 2021, 09:08:50 AM
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Star Member MineralMan (137,809 posts)
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With only about 36% of people fully vaccinated, nationwide, I predict another surge in cases and deaths within the next 60 days.
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. Masks on, as far as I'm concerned.
Minnesota has pretty good vaccination coverage, one of the best in the nation, except that people of color have a much lower vaccination rate than white folks. Much lower.
I think unmasking is premature. However, I'm not an epidemiologist, nor a doctor, so what do I know?
Star Member madaboutharry (36,019 posts)
1. Actually, I think you know a lot MineralMan.
Dr. Fauci repeatedly has said that the vaccinated are safe.
I also think that all those mask/vaccine deniers are going to get each other sick.
And I am still worried about the variants, though the scientists say the vaccine is holding up agains them.
Star Member MiniMe (19,623 posts)
2. I think the people who won't wear masks are the ones who have been bitching and moaning
about masks since the beginning. I will continue to wear one, I don't trust the assholes
Star Member JI7 (84,281 posts)
4. The no masks thing is only for those who are vaccinated
They are still saying people who haven't been vaccinated need to wear a mask.
Star Member MineralMan (137,809 posts)
7. But will they? I am not convinced that they will.
Vaccinations are slowing down. Either people are refusing or are having problem accessing vaccinations. Nationwide, with only about 36% fully vaccinated, we are not doing all that well. That is especially true in red states and rural areas.
It is a cause for concern, I believe.
magicarpet (10,658 posts)
6. 36%,... I thought it would be closer to 60% by now.
With the no mask declarations, people wanting this over, desire to make up for lost freedumbs during Covid, this summer will be an explosion of get togethers and party hearty crowd...... then late summer and come next fall there will be another explosion of Covid cases and deaths.
Star Member SoonerPride (9,871 posts)
11. Any surge in death will be among the unvaccinated
Natural selection is a thing.
Star Member Yavin4 (32,555 posts)
14. Texas eliminated all masks mandates and social distancing back on March 2.
There have been no surges in cases, hospitalizations, or deaths since then. In fact, all major stats have seen the same stark declines as the national numbers.
Florida did the same, and there was talk about a huge surge after Spring Break. There weren't any surges there as well. Their numbers declined as well.
:popcorn:
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Star Member MineralMan (137,809 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215439281
With only about 36% of people fully vaccinated, nationwide, I predict another surge in cases and deaths within the next 60 days.
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. Masks on, as far as I'm concerned.
Then stay the **** home, hiding behind your shuttered windows and locked doors with 4 masks on as you play keyboard commander trying to dictate to others to ignore the recommendations of the cdc and continue to wear the woketard mask of submission.
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Believe the science until it doesn’t fit our narrative, then don’t believe the science.
Liberals are such hypocrites.
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With >47% of the US population having had at least one dose (a single dose of Pfizer or Moderna is about as efficacious as the single-dose J&J) and another 8% of the US population having immunity from having recovered, I think reality will obstinately not conform to MM's hopes. BTW, until 7 days ago, ~30% of the US population was not allowed to receive a Covid vaccine, but Pfizer got their EUA extended to include 12-15YOs. That's ~30% of the US population of whose status MM is ignorant.
Someone needs to bump MM's thread on July 17th to post whatever reality turns out to be. Other than a small-moderate bump in late March and early April, US daily new cases numbers started falling precipitously on January 8th and then steadily.
BTW, MM is not alone in his hopes for a new surge soon. CDC "experts" predicted one would happen in May, https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-cases-infections-vaccines-variants-cc1d83ed-6523-43d9-9032-91b2ba08cb37.html . In the real world, US daily new cases numbers are still falling.
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Star Member Yavin4 (32,555 posts)
14. Texas eliminated all masks mandates and social distancing back on March 2.
There have been no surges in cases, hospitalizations, or deaths since then. In fact, all major stats have seen the same stark declines as the national numbers.
Florida did the same, and there was talk about a huge surge after Spring Break. There weren't any surges there as well. Their numbers declined as well.
Considering the thing has about a 5 day incubation period, you can stop hoping now.
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The Left is going to milk this for all it's worth, and then when the well is dry, conveniently forget all their wrong disaster predictions, moving along to the next shiny object. It looks as if this one will run dry, as opposed to the ever-shifting pollution/ozone hole/global warming/climate change cow that they keep tweaking for further oppression and government control.
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Star Member Yavin4 (32,555 posts)
14. Texas eliminated all masks mandates and social distancing back on March 2.
There have been no surges in cases, hospitalizations, or deaths since then. In fact, all major stats have seen the same stark declines as the national numbers.
Florida did the same, and there was talk about a huge surge after Spring Break. There weren't any surges there as well. Their numbers declined as well.
DUpipo being gnat strainers, FL experienced and small bump in daily new cases in late March and in April, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ . Probably Spring Break imports. But the big picture is that new cases have been declining in FL significantly and almost uninterruptedly since January 7. TX daily new cases, OTOH, started plummeting on January 13th and has been declining ever since, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/ .
Star Member Yavin4 probably won't be thanked for injecting that unpleasant dose of reality.
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The Left is going to milk this for all it's worth, and then when the well is dry, conveniently forget all their wrong disaster predictions, moving along to the next shiny object. It looks as if this one will run dry, as opposed to the ever-shifting pollution/ozone hole/global warming/climate change cow that they keep tweaking for further oppression and government control.
Yep, never let a crisis go to waste.
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Then stay the **** home, hiding behind your shuttered windows and locked doors with 4 masks on as you play keyboard commander trying to dictate to others to ignore the recommendations of the cdc and continue to wear the woketard mask of submission.
And if they do venture outside their bubble wearing 9 masks, the rest of us know who to ridicule (to ourselves or friends, perhaps to them directly) as to who the weaklings in our society are.
Screw 'em, you damn wimps. Grow a pair and be an freaking adult rather than displaying your mental midgetry.
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Texas reported zero Covid deaths yesterday but many business, cities and people in general are still masked up.
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EarlG
24. The fact is, until the vaccines became widely available, masking and distancing were the only options available to protect oneself and others. And they weren't even very good options. I know that I personally never felt secure spending just 30 minutes in the grocery store even while double masked.
Lord Marblehead <———— What a woosy!!
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EarlG
24. The fact is, until the vaccines became widely available, masking and distancing were the only options available to protect oneself and others. And they weren't even very good options. I know that I personally never felt secure spending just 30 minutes in the grocery store even while double masked.
Good Lord, what a paranoid!
I've mentioned before that recovered from Covid, at the end of last January. I did not get Covid from a rando person in a grocery store, I got it while twice in a car for 10 minutes with a person who did not know she was infected. She got it while in a car for 15 minutes with a friend who did not know she was infected.
Rando people spread out in a grocery store are fairly low risk, unless one goes full mask-Nazi in the grill of an unmasked person who happens not to have symptoms yet. I was the primary family member doing grocery shopping for my family for 10 months and never got infected at stores.
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With only about 36% of people fully vaccinated, nationwide, I predict another surge in cases and deaths within the next 60 days. Hopefully it will be all liberals and progressives.
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. Masks on, as far as I'm concerned. If you knew how to think you would have a much lower post count. You are just a loser :loser: :loser: :loser:
Minnesota has pretty good vaccination coverage, one of the best in the nation, except that people of color have a much lower vaccination rate than white folks. Much lower.
That really sounds RACIST. Perhaps this is a left wing plot to decimate the black population like planned parenthood, run by left wing liberals. Conceived by a modern day margaret sanger.
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Star Member MineralMan (137,809 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215439281
With only about 36% of people fully vaccinated, nationwide, I predict another surge in cases and deaths within the next 60 days.
Given that Dummies are wrong pretty much 100% of the time this is good news and means there will be a drop in cases and deaths.
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Given that Dummies are wrong pretty much 100% of the time this is good news and means there will be a drop in cases and deaths.
Of course, they're never right.
Noticed that Decrepit Joe walked into the Ford plant today (I think) and was still wearing a mask. My theory on why he's doing that:
He's telling the sheep leftists that it's OK to keep wearing their mask. Liberals are totally insecure and are petrified of absolutely everything. Personally, I'm going to laugh at people who cling to their masks. Haven't been to a grocery store yet since the announcement, but going tomorrow night, the first time in nearly a year that I'm not going to wear one at this store.
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Of course, they're never right.
Noticed that Decrepit Joe walked into the Ford plant today (I think) and was still wearing a mask. My theory on why he's doing that:
He's telling the sheep leftists that it's OK to keep wearing their mask. Liberals are totally insecure and are petrified of absolutely everything. Personally, I'm going to laugh at people who cling to their masks. Haven't been to a grocery store yet since the announcement, but going tomorrow night, the first time in nearly a year that I'm not going to wear one at this store.
my theory on the imposter in chief clinging to the mask is he has absolutely zero idea what to do regarding the chi-vi but feels he needs to do something to show he is taking "positive steps forward" to rid the nation of this evil virus that came here because Orange Man bad who didn't wear a mask when he was the President.
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It's almost the end of May, almost 1/4 of the way into MM's prophesied 60 days. And nor surge in cases or deaths, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ .
Meanwhile, over 40% of the US population is fully vaccinated, and over 50% have received at least one dose (one dose of Moderna or Pfizer is similar in effectiveness to the single-dose J&J vaccine),
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations . In addition to this, ~8.4% of the US population are known to have recovered, and many other people were either asymptomatic or simply gutted it out without getting tested. The US is in or close to herd immunity. And every single dose injected and every single dose in storage waiting to be used was purchased by Trump, before LIEden was inaugurated.
Other than the drop in confidence in the vaccines due to the bungling of the J&J vaccine pause, nothing LIEden has done has meaningfully affected the ongoing vaccination effort
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And Karl Rove will be indicted in 24 business hours...
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Well, unlike the CDC "experts", https://www.axios.com/covid-variants-cdc-surge-may-july-25e75c6e-f273-4e3c-98d9-39f404a56fa0.html , MM's predicted surge isn't late yet, but I'm bumping this thread so it's easier to find. And posting the reasons I think MM's and the experts' prediction is likely to fail.
Every day 1-2 million Americans receive a vaccine injection. Some are receiving their second, and some are receiving their first (or only). That's a trend that bodes poorly for MM's and the CDC's hopes. Every day 10s of thousands of Americans beat the virus. Those are 10s of thousands a day who are immune from the virus and won't be spreading the virus, another trend against MM's hopes. BTW, those two statistics links I posted above are updated more or less daily.
Unlike MM and the CDC "experts", I won't make a prediction. Between the witnesses' repeated failed date-setting predictions of Armageddon and the Enviros' multiplied failed Enviro-geddon predictions I don't set dates. That said, MM's and the CDC experts' prediction is looking increasingly unlikely.
I plan to bump this thread occasionally in the next couple of months just in case someone wants to remind MM of his success or "success". I'm so helpful, :-) .
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DUmmies, the masks don't shite. Also, I was in close proximity to my infected boss back in late Sept. I was within 6 ft. or less for 30 min, no mask. He stayed home sick the very next day. I NEVER GOT IT.
Oh, DUmmies, how about the people self quarantining themselves that STILL contracted the dreaded covid?
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https://youtu.be/Z0YIJQ1jgEI
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MM claimed his 97-year-old father died of covid, Campbell is obsessed with this virus and that he has recently bought a new house IN CASH with some of the proceeds of his inheirtance.
Just another pompous windbag like malaise. And like Christine, he's also almost always wrong in his predictions.
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IIRC, his father was basically pushed over the edge he was already at, And then his mother died shortly after from her own health problems (Alzheimers?). MM is very close to playing victim, "Trump killed my father!"
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Still no surge of new cases or of deaths, daily new cases and deaths still falling in the US, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ .
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Still no surge of new cases or of deaths, daily new cases and deaths still falling in the US, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ .
Maybe the vaccine is really an Omaha Steve plasma injection. :-)
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I wish just one DUmmie would come over and give us a list of everything Biden has done differently than what Trump was doing and had already put into place.
I am pretty sure the list would look like this;
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KC
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I wish just one DUmmie would come over and give us a list of everything Biden has done differently than what Trump was doing and had already put into place.
I am pretty sure the list would look like this;
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KC
Truly fascinating! The pandemic is in decline without the use of a 100-day national lockdown, one of the pillars of Biden's proposed COVID response.
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Of course, they're never right.
Noticed that Decrepit Joe walked into the Ford plant today (I think) and was still wearing a mask. My theory on why he's doing that:
He's telling the sheep leftists that it's OK to keep wearing their mask. Liberals are totally insecure and are petrified of absolutely everything. Personally, I'm going to laugh at people who cling to their masks. Haven't been to a grocery store yet since the announcement, but going tomorrow night, the first time in nearly a year that I'm not going to wear one at this store.
Went to the Walmart the other day and when I saw the "mask not needed for vaccinated" took mine off. It was great. Small freedoms may be the sweetest.
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Went to the Walmart the other day and when I saw the "mask not needed for vaccinated" took mine off. It was great. Small freedoms may be the sweetest.
No change here. It is nice not to have the standard talk with the greeter.
Greeter: sir, do you have a mask?
Me: nope.
Greeter: we have some for sale right over there
Me: thats nice ( keeps walking into the store)
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No change here. It is nice not to have the standard talk with the greeter.
Greeter: sir, do you have a mask?
Me: nope.
Greeter: we have some for sale right over there
Me: thats nice ( keeps walking into the store)
Same here. I wasn’t going to be a youtube star, but I wasn’t wearinga mask either.
KC
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My first un-vaxxed, maskless foray is tomorrow, at Kroger... and it'd better be:
" Sir, are you vaccinated? "
" Yeah. "
" Okay. "
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My first un-vaxxed, maskless foray is tomorrow, at Kroger... and it'd better be:
" Sir, are you vaccinated? "
" Yeah. "
" Okay. "
The absolute worst i had seen was family dollar treating vendors like animals. Demanding masks and signing a form saying you don't have kung flu. They will never get a dime out of me and I hope others don't shop there either
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My first un-vaxxed, maskless foray is tomorrow, at Kroger... and it'd better be:
" Sir, are you vaccinated? "
" Yeah. ". “Nunya”
" Okay. "
There ya go. Fixed it for you.
KC
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There ya go. Fixed it for you.
KC
A hesitant "uhhhh....sure!" Before walking in is also permissible
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Still no surge of new cases or of deaths, daily new cases and deaths still falling in the US, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ .
Five days since the quoted post, and the surge obstinately remains AWOMML.
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THIS HEADLINE IN THE NYT SEEMS KIND OF HOPEFUL
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/454520/ (https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/454520/)
The South may see a Covid surge this summer as vaccination rates lag. But the NYT has been gleefully predicting mass death for flyover yahoos since the beginning of Covid, even as NYC and New York State remained among the worst places in the country for the disease.
Predictable clASS from the NYT. Between vax rates that are not that far behind NY or an uber-blue West Coast state and those who have immunity from recovery (people the NYT cannot bring itself to admit exist), I think the NYT, like CDC bureaucrats (who also predicted a spring-summer surge) will be severely disappointed.
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I'm worried about the Biden regime busing untested illegals all over the country ... targeting red states. The Brazilian mutation sounds ominous.
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I'm worried about the Biden regime busing untested illegals all over the country ... targeting red states. The Brazilian mutation sounds ominous.
it's a twofer for the xiden mal-administration. Infect red states with covid positive illegals and also thru a computer "glitch" mail them out ballots for every future election even though they are not citizens to turn the red states blue
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1. Between vaccinated people and those who have immunity from recovery - I'm a twofer - the US is in the "Herd Immunity" zone. IOW, the risk from infected illegals is not very high, especially with the Feds' inefficiency in sprinkling them around the country. By the time those who didn't die arrive wherever, they'll have recovered.
2. "Variants" are chimeric Panic Porn. The vaccines used in the US are known to be effective against known variants. And immunity from recovery seems to be as well.
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If Dallas has a surge in the next couple weeks, can we blame it on the crowds of largely unmasked people our partying for Pride month this weekend?
Asking for a friend.
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If Dallas has a surge in the next couple weeks, can we blame it on the crowds of largely unmasked people our partying for Pride month this weekend?
Asking for a friend.
As we all learned last summer, BLM, Antifa riots, as well as Gay Pride events cannot be super-spreader events by definition of the left. Same with illegal immigrants flowing into our country. Each are approved and downright encouraged activities by leftist woketards.
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I'll be visiting relatives and friend in Kansas for a week, so I thought I'd bump this thread. I'm happy to be able to say that based on data I see on Worldometer, MM's record as a non-prophet is intact and looking solid. :tongue: :tongue: US daily new cases continue to decline.
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I'll be visiting relatives and friend in Kansas for a week, so I thought I'd bump this thread. I'm happy to be able to say that based on data I see on Worldometer, MM's record as a non-prophet is intact and looking solid. :tongue: :tongue: US daily new cases continue to decline.
You'll get to enjoy your respite in one of the free states, in comparison to the Wuhan slave states where you reside.
As a lifetime Central Time Zone resident (in different parts of the country), things are damn near close to normal here and have been for the most part for the past 16 months.
Unless you happen to get in the path of Poopy Pants Pam in Wichita and her explosive verbal and literal diarrhea.
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The county I'll be visiting is wide open. Airplanes and airports, not.
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Just visited Worldometer’s US page, daily cases and deaths still decreasing. MM and other Panic-Pornsters hardest hit.
Someone should concern-troll MM asking where his predicted surge is. Maybe in August.
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Someone should concern-troll MM asking where his predicted surge is. Maybe in August.
As soon as a Republican President is elected perhaps...
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Something else that has ceased at the DUmp is the reports every time the market dropped. What happened to that?! The market is taking a dump due to the inflation Biden is causing yet ... nothing at the DUmp.
KC
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Just visited Worldometer’s US page, daily cases and deaths still decreasing. MM and other Panic-Pornsters hardest hit.
Someone should concern-troll MM asking where his predicted surge is. Maybe in August.
Three weeks left for MM's prediction, and MM's status as a non-prophet is looking secure, in daily new cases and in daily deaths.
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Well, MM's 60 days are just about up, and no surge in cases, and deaths are still falling, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ .
:tongue: MM's non-prophet status is secure! :tongue:
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Well, MM's 60 days are just about up, and no surge in cases, and deaths are still falling, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ .
:tongue: MM's non-prophet status is secure! :tongue:
But the Delta variant!!!!!!!!!!! :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:
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Me, waiting on the predicted surge of cases...
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But the Delta variant!!!!!!!!!!! :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:
And Epsilon!!!
And Zeta!!!!1
And MU!!11one
And SIGMA!!!~~!@2!oneone
AND OMG OMEGA!!!@#.12312o8p3u!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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The list needs to constantly expand until the '22 elections ... justify unsolicited mass ballot distribution by mail. The Greek alphabet isn't going to be big enough.
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And Epsilon!!!
And Zeta!!!!1
And MU!!11one
And SIGMA!!!~~!@2!oneone
AND OMG OMEGA!!!@#.12312o8p3u!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
The Epsilon variant was circulating in California early this year. AFAIK, it's not in active circulation. Last I heard, the current variant we're all supposed to be fearing is the Lambda variant (I haven't heard whether gay activists are POed at this use of a symbol they've used for quite some time). To date, variants have been MSM Panic Porn FUD.
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The Epsilon variant was circulating in California early this year. AFAIK, it's not in active circulation. Last I heard, the current variant we're all supposed to be fearing is the Lambda variant (I haven't heard whether gay activists are POed at this use of a symbol they've used for quite some time). To date, variants have been MSM Panic Porn FUD.
Because I was in a Greek Fraternal organization and obviously know the Greek entire alphabet backwards and forwards, this clip from Revenge of the Nerds always comes to mind:
https://youtu.be/5sqc98KHT4c