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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Texacon on March 11, 2021, 09:56:58 AM
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https://democraticunderground.com/100215213992
These people have a comprehension problem that boggles the mind.
djacq (1,479 posts)
MUST READ: Oklahoma House Passes Bill To Give Immunity To Drivers Who Hit Protesters
In an early morning vote along party lines, with 79 votes in favor and 18 against, state lawmakers approved legislation that would remove criminal or civil liability for any driver who “unintentionally” injures or kills someone while “fleeing from a riot,” as long as they have a “reasonable belief” that fleeing would protect themselves from harm.
[link:https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oklahoma-bill-protect-drivers-hit-protesters_n_6049801ac5b6cf72d093ed9e|
In the United States the right to petition is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which specifically prohibits Congress from abridging "the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances".
“reasonable belief” that fleeing would protect themselves from harm = People of Color will be a target
multigraincracker (22,474 posts)
3. So, doest that apply to
anti-abortionest mobs?
This is the DU member formerly known as safeinOhio.
riversedge (60,244 posts)
4. seems this guy intentionlly drove through the protesters-AND WAS NOT CHARGED!!.......
DAMN.
.........The legislation follows widespread protests in Oklahoma and across the country last summer against racist police violence. Black Lives Matter protesters have repeatedly been targeted by vehicle assaults.
At one such protest in Tulsa, a truck drove through Black Lives Matter protesters on a highway. Several people were seriously injured, according to The Oklahoman, and the county district attorney did not charge the driver.
raccoon (29,323 posts)
6. When did the US go ****ing insane? Off to greatest with you! Nt
LonePirate (11,058 posts)
7. This is state sanctioned murder to hide racism.
jimfields33 (4,837 posts)
9. The highway is most likely the issue
I think if a group wants to protest on a major highway where cars are going 90 miles an hour, they do in some cases. The group should get a permit and the section of highway should be closed during the protest times. Or if a protest is going to occurs, the police should block the highway at the exit before the protest and have traffic do a detour around the protest. Either scenario would protect the protester rights and take the driver’s out of this scenario. A win-win for everybody.
Ya think?! ::)
mahatmakanejeeves (35,156 posts)
11. Is blocking a highway a form of peaceably assembling? NT
A voice of reason?
pinkstarburst (484 posts)
12. I am of two minds on this
On the one, I don't like the idea of people thinking they have free reign to mow people down in their cars. On the other, we have seen some really terrible things happen at protests where angry crowds, cars and assault weapons were involved. These are not a good combination.
There was the one in Austin last summer where people swarmed an Uber driver and attacked him, and (because of course this is Texas and everyone is armed to the teeth), the protesters were carrying AR-15s, and one guy pointed his assault weapon at the driver, and of course, TEXAS! the driver was also armed and shot the protester dead, and sped off (where he could have killed lots of people in the crowd and only by some miracle didn't) and another complete idiot also armed to the teeth (TEXAS!) shot into the crowd after the car where HE could have killed lots of people in the crowd and the only miracle of the day was that the only person out of all those present killed was the guy with the AR-15. It could have been so much worse.
Crowd of protestors+assault weapons+middle of road+terrified motorists=not a good combination
There have been protests in the middle of interstates where protestors have gotten killed. Protests where drivers have been attacked. Having a crowd of people carrying assault weapons surrounding your car screaming and banging on the hood would make almost anyone go into lizard brain mode and floor the accelerator, thinking they were about to be killed. I get that people need to protest, but for the safety of the public AND the protesters, the middle of highways and places where the police cannot effectively keep cars from inadvertently coming across the protest and getting attacked is NOT a good place to protest.
redstatebluegirl (11,305 posts)
14. So if I "accidentally " runnover proud boys marching on
the sidewalk because their long guns terrified me I am good right?
Yes, because that's exactly what that says ....
I don't know, maybe you should try it and argue your point in court. Dumbass.
KC
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Good for Oklahoma!!
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multigraincracker (22,474 posts)
3. So, doest that apply to
anti-abortionest mobs?
When did they block traffic and surround people?
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My take away from this is dont play on the freeway.
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At one such protest in Tulsa, a truck drove through Black Lives Matter protesters on a highway. Several people were seriously injured, according to The Oklahoman, and the county district attorney did not charge the driver.
Does this help you understand any better dumbfu** !
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When did they block traffic and surround people?
I've gone to a whole lot of them over the years in VT They always do it on the anniversary of Roe V. Wade. in January. Seems to me all we did was shiver in huddled little masses and drink coffee and hot chocolate.
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My take away from this is dont play on the freeway.
Couldn't blocking an interstate highway be a federal crime? It is interfering with interstate commerce.
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I always imagined I would mow down some protesters. (I did not intend violence :whistling:)
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Unsurprisingly, DUpipo and HuffPo are misrepresenting the OK bill, http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2021-22%20ENGR/hB/HB1674%20ENGR.PDF . The relevant section:
SECTION 2. NEW LAW A new section of law to be codified
in the Oklahoma Statutes as Section 1320.11 of Title 21, unless
there is created a duplication in numbering, reads as follows:
A motor vehicle operator who unintentionally causes injury or
death to an individual shall not be criminally or civilly liable for
the injury or death, if:
1. The injury or death of the individual occurred while the
motor vehicle operator was fleeing from a riot, as defined in
Section 1311 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes, under a
reasonable belief that fleeing was necessary to protect the motor
vehicle operator from serious injury or death; and
2. The motor vehicle operator exercised due care at the time of
the death or injury.
My emphasis. IOW, multigraincracker's and redstatebluegirl's fantasies of killing or maiming people whose views are different from theirs would land them in prison.
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