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The Bar => The Lounge => Topic started by: BEG on August 27, 2008, 02:45:13 PM
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My Mom send me an email with the obit of an apparently nasty woman. I checked it out on snopes.com. It is true. http://www.snopes.com/media/iftrue/obituary.asp
Dolores Aguilar 1929 - Aug. 7, 2008
Dolores Aguilar, born in 1929 in New Mexico, left us on August 7, 2008. She will be met in the afterlife by her husband, Raymond, her son, Paul Jr., and daughter, Ruby.
She is survived by her daughters Marietta, Mitzi, Stella, Beatrice, Virginia and Ramona, and son Billy; grandchildren, Donnelle, Joe, Mitzie, Maria, Mario, Marty, Tynette, Tania, Leta, Alexandria, Tommy, Billy, Mathew, Raymond, Kenny, Javier, Lisa, Ashlie and Michael; great-grandchildren, Brendan, Joseph, Karissa, Jacob, Delaney, Shawn, Cienna, Bailey, Christian, Andre Jr., Andrea, Keith, Saeed, Nujaymah, Salma, Merissa, Emily, Jayci, Isabella, Samantha and Emily. I apologize if I missed anyone.
Dolores had no hobbies, made no contribution to society and rarely shared a kind word or deed in her life. I speak for the majority of her family when I say her presence will not be missed by many, very few tears will be shed and there will be no lamenting over her passing.
Her family will remember Dolores and amongst ourselves we will remember her in our own way, which were mostly sad and troubling times throughout the years. We may have some fond memories of her and perhaps we will think of those times too. But I truly believe at the end of the day ALL of us will really only miss what we never had, a good and kind mother, grandmother and great-grandmother. I hope she is finally at peace with herself. As for the rest of us left behind, I hope this is the beginning of a time of healing and learning to be a family again.
There will be no service, no prayers and no closure for the family she spent a lifetime tearing apart. We cannot come together in the end to see to it that her grandchildren and great-grandchildren can say their goodbyes. So I say here for all of us, GOOD BYE, MOM.
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Holy crap! She must have been a real piece of work.
:o :o :o
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I think that's despicable(not the posting of it, BEG, that children would do that). Apparently the apple doesn't fall far from the tree if what they say is true. How about just a plain obit instead of that. I'm estranged from my father and we have not been on good terms for years. The things that went on do make me very angry at times, but I could never dishonor him in passing by writing something like this.
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Yowch. That's going to leave a mark.
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Wow. Christina Crawford really opened some doors of disrespect.
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I think that's despicable(not the posting of it, BEG, that children would do that). Apparently the apple doesn't fall far from the tree if what they say is true. How about just a plain obit instead of that. I'm estranged from my father and we have not been on good terms for years. The things that went on do make me very angry at times, but I could never dishonor him in passing by writing something like this.
I'll have to disagree. If you knew my grandma (my Dad's Mom) this Obit is exactly what ALL of her family would say. While I probably wouldn't write it I understand why someone would and how they must feel. There is a difference between being estranged from a parent and having a parent that is a mean spirited nasty person. I have said many times how I wished I had a "normal" grandma. One that didn't criticize everything from the way you looked to what a "whore" your mother is. One who didn't tell my brother that his mother really didn't love him and that his step dad would just kick him out of the house and leave him for dead the first chance he could get (all because he wanted to come to Tulsa from Omaha to live with my Mom while going to college instead of living with my alcoholic father). She also told him he was dead to her as far as she was concerned. A woman who use to pick up the phone (back when they had party lines) and listen to people's conversations then as soon as she got the gossip would call all her "friends" and tell all the juicy details so it was all over town the following day. She played a HUGE hand in ruining every relationship my Dad has ever had and accused my Dad of stealing from her. My Dad may be a lot of things, a thief he is not.
Schade met her at my brothers funeral. While what she saw was a "cute little old lady", if you were to ask anyone that attended the funeral who knew her they would state the complete opposite. To people who don't know her there isn't a term in the english language to describe her.....she is a very nasty woman and has been her whole life. There are good things I could say about her but only a couple, the good does not outweigh the bad. Not even close.
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I think that's despicable(not the posting of it, BEG, that children would do that). Apparently the apple doesn't fall far from the tree if what they say is true. How about just a plain obit instead of that. I'm estranged from my father and we have not been on good terms for years. The things that went on do make me very angry at times, but I could never dishonor him in passing by writing something like this.
I'll have to disagree. If you knew my grandma (my Dad's Mom) this Obit is exactly what ALL of her family would say. While I probably wouldn't write it I understand why someone would and how they must feel. There is a difference between being estranged from a parent and having a parent that is a mean spirited nasty person. I have said many times how I wished I had a "normal" grandma. One that didn't criticize everything from the way you looked to what a "whore" your mother is. One who didn't tell my brother that his mother really didn't love him and that his step dad would just kick him out of the house and leave him for dead the first chance he could get (all because he wanted to come to Tulsa from Omaha to live with my Mom while going to college instead of living with my alcoholic father). She also told him he was dead to her as far as she was concerned. A woman who use to pick up the phone (back when they had party lines) and listen to people's conversations then as soon as she got the gossip would call all her "friends" and tell all the juicy details so it was all over town the following day. She played a HUGE hand in ruining every relationship my Dad has ever had and accused my Dad of stealing from her. My Dad may be a lot of things, a thief he is not.
Schade met her at my brothers funeral. While what she saw was a "cute little old lady", if you were to ask anyone that attended the funeral who knew her they would state the complete opposite. To people who don't know her there isn't a term in the english language to describe her.....she is a very nasty woman and has been her whole life. There are good things I could say about her but only a couple, the good does not outweigh the bad. Not even close.
But posting an obituary like that? Who wins? As miserable as her life must have been, and given the misery she spread, is an obituary really the place to even the score?
Now the survivors look like the hate-filled, bitter, and petty. Nothing was gained. The dead lady can't post a rebuttal declaring that each of every one of her horrible relatives deserved her scorn.
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I think that's despicable(not the posting of it, BEG, that children would do that). Apparently the apple doesn't fall far from the tree if what they say is true. How about just a plain obit instead of that. I'm estranged from my father and we have not been on good terms for years. The things that went on do make me very angry at times, but I could never dishonor him in passing by writing something like this.
I'll have to disagree. If you knew my grandma (my Dad's Mom) this Obit is exactly what ALL of her family would say. While I probably wouldn't write it I understand why someone would and how they must feel. There is a difference between being estranged from a parent and having a parent that is a mean spirited nasty person. I have said many times how I wished I had a "normal" grandma. One that didn't criticize everything from the way you looked to what a "whore" your mother is. One who didn't tell my brother that his mother really didn't love him and that his step dad would just kick him out of the house and leave him for dead the first chance he could get (all because he wanted to come to Tulsa from Omaha to live with my Mom while going to college instead of living with my alcoholic father). She also told him he was dead to her as far as she was concerned. A woman who use to pick up the phone (back when they had party lines) and listen to people's conversations then as soon as she got the gossip would call all her "friends" and tell all the juicy details so it was all over town the following day. She played a HUGE hand in ruining every relationship my Dad has ever had and accused my Dad of stealing from her. My Dad may be a lot of things, a thief he is not.
Schade met her at my brothers funeral. While what she saw was a "cute little old lady", if you were to ask anyone that attended the funeral who knew her they would state the complete opposite. To people who don't know her there isn't a term in the english language to describe her.....she is a very nasty woman and has been her whole life. There are good things I could say about her but only a couple, the good does not outweigh the bad. Not even close.
But posting an obituary like that? Who wins? As miserable as her life must have been, and given the misery she spread, is an obituary really the place to even the score?
Now the survivors look like the hate-filled, bitter, and petty. Nothing was gained. The dead lady can't post a rebuttal declaring that each of every one of her horrible relatives deserved her scorn.
:-*
True, like I said in my post, I probably wouldn't write it but I DO understand how the person who wrote this must feel like. Everything she said about her mother I could say about my grandma. My grandma truly is indescribable. Her one saving grace is that I think she has been mentally ill her whole life, I just wish I knew what a shrink would diagnose her with.
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Well, if we ever see this in the obit column.....
Christina Crawford:Moonbat
...maybe we'll have the rest of the story.
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I think that's despicable(not the posting of it, BEG, that children would do that). Apparently the apple doesn't fall far from the tree if what they say is true. How about just a plain obit instead of that. I'm estranged from my father and we have not been on good terms for years. The things that went on do make me very angry at times, but I could never dishonor him in passing by writing something like this.
I'll have to disagree. If you knew my grandma (my Dad's Mom) this Obit is exactly what ALL of her family would say. While I probably wouldn't write it I understand why someone would and how they must feel. There is a difference between being estranged from a parent and having a parent that is a mean spirited nasty person. I have said many times how I wished I had a "normal" grandma. One that didn't criticize everything from the way you looked to what a "whore" your mother is. One who didn't tell my brother that his mother really didn't love him and that his step dad would just kick him out of the house and leave him for dead the first chance he could get (all because he wanted to come to Tulsa from Omaha to live with my Mom while going to college instead of living with my alcoholic father). She also told him he was dead to her as far as she was concerned. A woman who use to pick up the phone (back when they had party lines) and listen to people's conversations then as soon as she got the gossip would call all her "friends" and tell all the juicy details so it was all over town the following day. She played a HUGE hand in ruining every relationship my Dad has ever had and accused my Dad of stealing from her. My Dad may be a lot of things, a thief he is not.
Schade met her at my brothers funeral. While what she saw was a "cute little old lady", if you were to ask anyone that attended the funeral who knew her they would state the complete opposite. To people who don't know her there isn't a term in the english language to describe her.....she is a very nasty woman and has been her whole life. There are good things I could say about her but only a couple, the good does not outweigh the bad. Not even close.
But posting an obituary like that? Who wins? As miserable as her life must have been, and given the misery she spread, is an obituary really the place to even the score?
Now the survivors look like the hate-filled, bitter, and petty. Nothing was gained. The dead lady can't post a rebuttal declaring that each of every one of her horrible relatives deserved her scorn.
:-*
True, like I said in my post, I probably wouldn't write it but I DO understand how the person who wrote this must feel like. Everything she said about her mother I could say about my grandma. My grandma truly is indescribable. Her one saving grace is that I think she has been mentally ill her whole life, I just wish I knew what a shrink would diagnose her with.
I'm sorry she's that way. You are right. She is most likely mentally ill.
I had a couple of relatives who were not the nicest people in the world. I wrote a movie treatment about the life of my great aunt. Three producers turned it down because it had already been done in other horror movies. I'm not kidding. The woman murdered** three people over the years. I found out over the internet she died in 2002. She was born in 1907.
The evil ones always live a long time.
**I was there for one of them. She denied my "grandfather", her sister's second husband, his nitro tables while he was having a heart attack on Thanksgiving Day 1960. He, she, and I were the only ones in the house at the time. I was six years old. No one would believe me***. I'm the one who dialed "0". Auntie claimed she couldn't find the pills. Later she claimed I was being rumbustious**** and upsetting him. Papa died that night.
***Except my mother. She knew the lady well.
**** I was in the corner all day painting at my easel.
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I think that's despicable(not the posting of it, BEG, that children would do that). Apparently the apple doesn't fall far from the tree if what they say is true. How about just a plain obit instead of that. I'm estranged from my father and we have not been on good terms for years. The things that went on do make me very angry at times, but I could never dishonor him in passing by writing something like this.
I'll have to disagree. If you knew my grandma (my Dad's Mom) this Obit is exactly what ALL of her family would say. While I probably wouldn't write it I understand why someone would and how they must feel. There is a difference between being estranged from a parent and having a parent that is a mean spirited nasty person. I have said many times how I wished I had a "normal" grandma. One that didn't criticize everything from the way you looked to what a "whore" your mother is. One who didn't tell my brother that his mother really didn't love him and that his step dad would just kick him out of the house and leave him for dead the first chance he could get (all because he wanted to come to Tulsa from Omaha to live with my Mom while going to college instead of living with my alcoholic father). She also told him he was dead to her as far as she was concerned. A woman who use to pick up the phone (back when they had party lines) and listen to people's conversations then as soon as she got the gossip would call all her "friends" and tell all the juicy details so it was all over town the following day. She played a HUGE hand in ruining every relationship my Dad has ever had and accused my Dad of stealing from her. My Dad may be a lot of things, a thief he is not.
Schade met her at my brothers funeral. While what she saw was a "cute little old lady", if you were to ask anyone that attended the funeral who knew her they would state the complete opposite. To people who don't know her there isn't a term in the english language to describe her.....she is a very nasty woman and has been her whole life. There are good things I could say about her but only a couple, the good does not outweigh the bad. Not even close.
But posting an obituary like that? Who wins? As miserable as her life must have been, and given the misery she spread, is an obituary really the place to even the score?
Now the survivors look like the hate-filled, bitter, and petty. Nothing was gained. The dead lady can't post a rebuttal declaring that each of every one of her horrible relatives deserved her scorn.
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It's probably better than saying, **** YOU.
:rotf:
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I haven't walked in their shoes, and the obit is for the living, not thelate unlamented; from the perspective of those who knew her, it is entirely possible that this obit DOES accomplish something positive by closing the cover forever on a book that was decades-long horror show and very nasty for them personally, so they can turn away from it and move on with a clean start and the oh-so-sought after psychobabble "Closure." I think you're being too quick on the draw and too generous with someone else's milk of human kindness, there, jty.
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That is a brutal obit. You wouldn't want to marry into that family I'm guessing.