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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Mary Ann on July 04, 2020, 06:09:28 PM
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213699311
SiliconValley_Dem (830 posts)
young people today are more knowledgeable than founding fathers
*young people today don't believe slavery of humans is a morally defensible institution
*young people today know more about how human activities have an enormous impact on our planet
*young people today know that slaughtering indigenous people in order to advance white colonialism is wrong
Don't hold our founding fathers on too lofty of a perch. What they did regarding promotion of Democratic self rule and rejection of monarchy was ground breaking--but it birthed a very imperfect nation.
we have a right and an obligation to see those times and those people from a more enlightened perspective.
it is important we recognize those people knew so much less than we do today. It is similar to digging up artifacts from early humans. we know they were less intelligent and extremely primitive. we make allowances for that, but we see them with the clarity of scientific objectivity.
we must listen to the voices chanting for accountability. demanding a reckoning. don't use tradition as a cudgel. examine our nation and the people who led it. focus on how you can better our lives and our institutions.
that is a sign off true patriotism.
Just to show that there is a little bit of sense on DU:
HotTeaBag (493 posts)
23. I guess - young people have the benefit of 300 years (and more !!!) of history
to look back on - and Wikipedia.
More courageous? Nah.
More willing to risk their lives to do what they believe in? Hardly.
Able to birth a ****ing country? Um, no.
This is easily the most ridiculous OP amongst the newly minted 'anti-Founding Fathers sentiment' posts.
Utter nonsense.
I wonder how long Hot Tea Bag will last???
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:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
That’s awesome!!!
KC
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Mary Ann, I'm gonna steal this and see if I get a reaction from Lefties at Hide5...I will update with a link.
and here it is. https://hide5.boards.net/thread/7164/lefties-america-du
lets see who bites.
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HotTeaBag one order of granite pizza ready for take out.
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Mary Ann, I'm gonna steal this and see if I get a reaction from Lefties at Hide5...I will update with a link.
and here it is. https://hide5.boards.net/thread/7164/lefties-america-du
lets see who bites.
I have no idea what Hide5 is, but I will be checking it for responses!
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I have one thing to say, dummies:
Young people in the USA today have never put their lives on the line when the odds were against them. At least the ones that inhabit DU.
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MyOwnPeace
6. Yep, things ARE different........
For example:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Let's not even begin to discuss/argue the "well regulated" part - but think about this: our dear "founding Fathers" had never heard of an AR-15, as well as an individual or groups having an "arsenal" stashed in the basement or available "on-line!"
They had muskets - fire and reload. No "quick-shooters" - no "laser-guided" weapons - just muskets and single-fire pistols!
Yes, the times have changed.
Yes, back then the citizens had muskets. And what did the military have back then? So...it sounds like they didn’t mind the citizens having the same fire arms that the military had.
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Yes, back then the citizens had muskets. And what did the military have back then? So...it sounds like they didn’t mind the citizens having the same fire arms that the military had.
And we get rid of all electronic media for news and election purposes.
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SiliconValley_Dem (830 posts)
young people today are more knowledgeable than founding fathers
They spent 4 years and tens of thousands of dollars to get degrees to get a job operating a coffee machine.
They know how to ask important questions: "would you like me to supersize that" or "is that for here or to go?"
They can't build shit, but are great at marching and destroying what adults have built.
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I was gonna write some clever bon mot about this one, but I can't stop screaming at its obvious stupidity long enough to write anything clever.
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Kids always think they’re more enlightened than their parents. It’s only after growing up where that nonsense becomes clear. And even further in ones maturity than that, you come to realize there really is nothing new under the sun. When you never grow up, then you remain a liberal, even into your 70’s and 80’s.
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The United States, as set up by the founders, has lasted for more than 200 years.
How long did the autonomous nation of CHAZ, the one that was set up by these brainiac young people last?
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:thatsright: The Founding Fathers knew the era they lived in was vastly more complex than DU-Moron SiliconValley_Dem's silliness. :thatsright: ::) Though it is true that they didn't know about the environmental impact of coal-fired power plants and pre-emissions-control automobiles. ::)
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They spent 4 years and tens of thousands of dollars to get degrees to get a job operating a coffee machine.
They know how to ask important questions: "would you like me to supersize that" or "is that for here or to go?"
They can't build shit, but are great at marching and destroying what adults have built.
You ever see some of those conservative reporters ask young people on a beach things, Most of them are in college and can't tell you who we declared our independence from. I doubt they could name five planets in our solar system. I saw a video of a young person trying to use a manual crank can opener. It was pitiful. I could go on and on. Our education sysytem is failing them horribly because all their instructors want to do is push their socialist and LBGTQXYZ views on them 7 1/2 hrs a day.
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young people today don't believe slavery of humans is a morally defensible institution
Bullsh*t. Many of them have been programmed to believe that slavery is just fine as long as the government is the slavemaster. (socialism)
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young people today are more knowledgeable than founding fathers
What? Genderless Studies?
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I always love when they talk about the founders having no knowledge of anything but muskets ...
Puckle Gun – 1718
The brainchild of an English inventor and lawyer by the name of James Puckle, the gun that bore his name was essentially an over-sized, hand-cranked revolver – invented more than 120 years before Samuel Colt’s legendary six-shooter. The weapon, also known as a defense gun, had a single barrel, behind which sat a large 11-chamber cylinder, each loaded with a 32 mm ball (about twice the diameter of a musket round) with a powder charge. Originally intended to be mounted on the sides of warships and fired directly at the deck crews of enemy vessels, the gun could loose about 10 rounds a minute — roughly three times the rate of fire of a musket of the time. Puckle designed two versions – one that fired conventional round shot and another variant launched square bullets. Considered much more lethal than ball shot, these block-shaped rounds were only to be used against Muslim Turks and other non-Christian enemies. While investors had high hopes for the Puckle gun’s popularity, the British military remained unimpressed. The complexity of its design made it impractical, especially in the era before interchangeable parts. Does this mean the gun was ahead of its time? Perhaps. But contemporaries pointed out that the only people ever harmed by the Puckle Gun were its investors.
KC