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Title: much of the violence is being started/exacerbated by white provocateurs.
Post by: dutch508 on May 30, 2020, 11:36:44 AM
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Star Member StarfishSaver (8,130 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213507737

They're closer than you think
It looks like much of the violence we're witnessing is being started/exacerbated by white provocateurs.

Surely their work is not limited to looting and setting fires in the streets.

I wonder how many of them are also online stirring up sh!t ... Given what I've been reading online the past couple of days, I suspect some of them are closer to us than we think.

The DUmpmonkiez are so sure these are 'right wing' supporters of President Trump.... naw... they are the same leftist anti-fa ****s who have been doing this shit for decades...

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Star Member Mike 03 (10,873 posts)

4. Two guests on CNN both said they believe Minnesota authorities

have a lot more information about this than they've conveyed and are calling upon them to hold another press conference divulging more information "before tonight."

I'm mentally forming a suspect list. The FBI could also be very helpful here.

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Star Member brer cat (12,285 posts)

5. Trace them and expose them.

Stirring up s$*% because their leader egged them on. If they get some black folk killed, so much the better from their perspective.

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Star Member Beakybird (1,386 posts)

3. I'm sure the Russian government would welcome any mayhem that would weaken our country. The want us fighting each other, killing each other, and hating each other. They want us to get sick and die. Their bots argue against social distancing, wearing a mask, and getting vaccinated.

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Bengus81 (4,868 posts)

8. Looked like a white guy busting out a window at CNN last night with his skateboard....

Or at least trying like hell. What's he pissed off at CNN about, do a bad segment on boarders??

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Star Member Mike 03 (10,873 posts)

12. Wasn't that suspicioius?

He wasn't the only white guy trying to break into CNN.

My view of the protesters is that the honest ones are informed people who certainly know that CNN has been siding with them and telling their story. So why attack CNN?

That was suspcious as hell.

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Star Member Andy823 (10,683 posts)

9. I agree

some of them are posting here and trying to spread division and start arguments. Sadly it seems to be working.

If a poster post something and they don't have any proof of their claims, they need to be called out for proof, and many of out long time DU posters area calling them out. Many questionable posts are done by a poster who posts and run. They never bother to come back and discuss their claims.

Remember the old saying "don't feed the trolls'!

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Tipperary (6,165 posts)

14. Sooo, your previous post about how we should understand these riots is now moot?

If they are being started by outside agitators, they should be condemned. Right?

New talking points came down from the DNC is all...

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Star Member StarfishSaver (8,130 posts)

21. My previous posts are not at all moot

I can hold more than one thought in my head when analyzing complicated situations.

And, yes, outside agitators should be condemned. But those arguing that "You're only hurting your own cause" and "You're insulting the memory of Dr. King" aren't condemning outside agitators.

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davekriss (3,613 posts)

18. Of course they are

We weren’t down for 2 weeks in November 2016 because a fuse blew.

 :whistling:
Title: Re: much of the violence is being started/exacerbated by white provocateurs.
Post by: SVPete on May 30, 2020, 01:28:16 PM
They're desperate to avoid the simple fact that many rioters are local (a cross-state "import" would loot TVs and stuff? ::) ), many are BLM "imports", and there are probably some Antifoids in the mix as well. The rioters are a blend, not some one faction, and the idea there are "right-wing" provocateurs among them is ludicrous.
Title: Re: much of the violence is being started/exacerbated by white provocateurs.
Post by: freedumb2003b on May 30, 2020, 03:52:56 PM
Remember, COVID-19 respects rioters and looters so long as they do it in the name of something leftists think is true (and it is not).


https://www.complex.com/life/2020/05/george-floyd-autopsy-underlying-health-conditions-likely-caused-death

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6933246-Derek-Chauvin-Complaint.html

Title: Re: much of the violence is being started/exacerbated by white provocateurs.
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 30, 2020, 07:24:53 PM
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Star Member StarfishSaver (8,130 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213507737

They're closer than you think
It looks like much of the violence we're witnessing is being started/exacerbated by white provocateurs.

Surely their work is not limited to looting and setting fires in the streets.

I wonder how many of them are also online stirring up sh!t ... Given what I've been reading online the past couple of days, I suspect some of them are closer to us than we think.

Antifa is mostly White.
Title: Re: much of the violence is being started/exacerbated by white provocateurs.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 30, 2020, 07:30:33 PM
Sound like as much BS as Russian collusion.
Title: Re: much of the violence is being started/exacerbated by white provocateurs.
Post by: SVPete on May 31, 2020, 07:58:08 AM
Sound like as much BS as Russian collusion.

My guess, which together with a tenner will get you a vente latte' and change at Starchucks, is that if demographic info ever comes out for the rioters, they will prove to be 70%-80% locals, 20%-30% migrant rioters, and all Libs-Progs.

I mean, how much weed do you have to have smoked/ingested to believe that a lily-white KKK-type could walk into a "black neighborhood", approach a bunch of peaceful, mostly black, protesters, yell "Free TVs at Target", and walk away without getting handed over to police (plus or minus getting the crap beat out of him)? I realize that either the goobernor or :doh: have peddled this narrative, but it's a ludicrous effort to shift blame from their own incompetence and away from the real rioters and looters.
Title: Re: much of the violence is being started/exacerbated by white provocateurs.
Post by: ADsOutburst on May 31, 2020, 12:35:52 PM
I suppose one way to not lose an argument is to take every position.

"These riots are the result of righteous anger! Those who make peaceful evolution impossible make violent revolutions inevitable! Also, it's white supremacists and accelerationists doing this! Also, let's post bail for the rioters! And the riots are Trump's fault!"
Title: Re: much of the violence is being started/exacerbated by white provocateurs.
Post by: Movie buff- The Sequel on May 31, 2020, 01:08:17 PM
They act like the only people who can honestly take part in these actions (i.e. without any sinister or ulterior motives) are those who are themselves black. That is a racist assertion, and is also hypocritical, as if whites stayed out of this, the Left would loudly accuse them of racially- motivated apathy.
Did it seriously never occur to the DUmmies that the whites who are seen engaging in violence and rioting are almost certainly the Antifa/ black bloc Anarchist turds who go to such events for the specific purpose of starting fights and riots and are pretty much exclusively lily- white?
For instance, one of the DUmmies noted a white protester smashing the CNN windows using a skateboard. That kind of use for a skateboard is pretty much right out of the Antifoid handbook. I'd bet money that most of the "Right wing white supremacist" types that the DUmmies wet their panties over and think are hiding under every bed have never owned a skateboard in their lives.
"My view of the protesters is that the honest ones are informed people who certainly know that CNN has been siding with them and telling their story. So why attack CNN?"
Um, I'd imagine that the majority of the protesters don't even watch CNN or have any clue what stances CNN has on the protests, and even if they did, they wouldn't really care.


Remember, COVID-19 respects rioters and looters so long as they do it in the name of something leftists think is true (and it is not).

You actually raise a good point here.
The DUmmies have whined about how evil and wrong it is for people to attend church services and go to other public places at the moment due to the need for "Social distancing" and "Self- isolation," yet they apparently have no problem with protests and riots, which pretty much always involve very large groups of people packed close together.
Title: Re: much of the violence is being started/exacerbated by white provocateurs.
Post by: Delmar on May 31, 2020, 01:31:20 PM
Biden's staff is lousy white supremacist fascist nazis.

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Biden staffers donate to bail fund for Minnesota protesters: report
By Mark Moore May 31, 2020 | 10:44am | Updated

Campaign staffers for presumptive Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden have donated to a group in Minnesota that is paying the bail for people arrested during the protests over the death of George Floyd by a white police officer, according to a report.  At least 13 members of the former vice president’s campaign made donations to the Minnesota Freedom Fund, which opposes cash bail to avoid being jailed before trial, Reuters reported on Saturday.
https://nypost.com/2020/05/31/biden-staffers-reportedly-donating-to-bail-fund-for-protesters/

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Biden Staffers Donate Money to Pay Bail of Rioters That Minnesota Officials Claim Are White Supremacists
https://pjmedia.com/election/matt-margolis/2020/05/31/biden-staffers-donate-money-to-pay-bail-of-rioters-minnesota-officials-claim-are-white-supremacists-n468847