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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on May 14, 2020, 08:21:24 AM
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DIVINEprividence (137 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213435298
A friendly reminder WE ARE WINNING
Electoral votes
Biden: 352
Individual One: 148
Ties: 38
Electoral-vote.com
This poll of polls is updated daily and very reputable.
If you think about it, Trump should be wiping us out. Most President’s get a big rally effect in a crisis, he has the money/social media advantage, he has the bully pulpit and can dominate a news cycle whenever he wants, he is corrupt and has corrupted the entire GOP who will stoop as low as low can go if need be, and yet he is losing, and these numbers have been very consistent and trending worse for Trump. We have avoided a protracted and divisive primary. You can’t underestimate how important that is. Imagine if it were a tie and these two were going to blows right now. That would have been an epic disaster. Biden has done an outstanding job unifying the Party by engaging Bernie and the progressive wing into policy discussions. Campaigning during a pandemic will be a tremendous challenge and we need all hands on deck to seize media cycles away from Trump and counter his propaganda. We are winning, but let’s play like we are behind.
https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2020/Pres/Maps/May07.html
Hillary Clinton’s Backers Thought She Couldn’t Lose. Now, ‘I Can’t Go There.’
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/us/politics/hillary-clinton-voters.html
:-)
rampartc (2,999 posts)
1. thanks for the optimism, but
did you see the results from tuesday's elections? not even close.
2021 - usa becomes 1 party dystopia. trump declared "president for life." for victory over coronavirus as death toll steady at 5,000 per day.
Star Member Indykatie (1,796 posts)
4. I Saw Results From Tuesday and Question Your Pessimism - Here's the Deal
Trump won WI - 07 by 21 freaking points in 2016. Dems lost it on Tuesday by 15. Who should be surprised at that outcome in a deep red district? I wasn't.
CA-25 had been in GOP hands for decades before Dems swiped it as part of the 2018 wave. Again, why the doom and gloom over losing a historically Red district in an off off cycle election. Maybe Dems can re-take CA-25 in Nov if we have another Blue wave. Absent that, it will probably remain in the GOP column.
A better barometer of the Dems position heading into the Nov election is the recent Supreme Court seat won in WI by a landslide in the most challenging of circumstances. Dems have every right to be optimistic in my opinion if we work hard and don't let doom and gloom settle in.
Iliyah (22,033 posts)
3. I feel pretty good about a sweep for the Democrats . .
in 2020 elections across board. From California, Los Angeles County, 25 District seat will go back to Democrats in November.
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HUFFpo- 04/30/2015 03:11 pm ET
No one wants to say with certainty who the next president will be. The election is too far away, too much can happen between now and then, and, most importantly, the identity of the Republican nominee hasn’t even been determined yet.
Alas, those considerations, as valid as they may be, don’t really apply here. The next president will be Hillary Clinton. Despite all the concerns about her “secret” emails, her alleged complicity in the Libyan fiasco, and the huge and possibly rancid amount of money the Clinton Foundation has amassed, it will still be Hillary. Here are five reasons.
TIMING. The allegations about Libya (How do you say “Whitewater” in Arabic? “Benghazi”) were first raised years ago and have lost whatever traction they may have had. The same with Hillary’s emails. Lots of smoke but little if any fire.
As for the Foundation mess, it won’t hurt her, because it’s being raised in April 2015. Even if they persist for a while (even if they hang on for a few more months), by the time the November 2016 election rolls around, all of that stuff will be “old news.”
CYNICISM. People now have such a low opinion of politicians that finding out that one of them may have been unduly influenced by money isn’t even going to move the needle. A sex scandal, a drug addiction, a falsified résumé, or naked plagiarism might undermine a candidate’s chances, but wallowing in other people’s money ain’t going to do it. We’ve simply become too jaded.
CHOICES. Even in the unlikely event that Mitt Romney comes to the rescue, the Republican field is extremely thin. Truth be told (and as unfair as it is to say), Rand Paul doesn’t even look like a president. Moreover, the further these potential candidates go into primary season, the more vicious their infighting will become, the more negative their campaigns will become, and the more ammunition Hillary will be given to fight with.
TACTICS. Hillary’s formidable team simply won’t allow her to lose. They won’t allow anything negative to stain her for long. Her rebuttals will be sharp and crisp and, most importantly, instantaneous. Yes, her team “allowed” her to lose to Barack Obama, but that was the 2008 primary, which was a whole other deal. This will be the general election, and Hillary will emerge from the primary virtually unscathed.
INERTIA. People who like Hillary will vote for her no matter what, and people who strongly dislike her will vote against her no matter what. And because more people now tend to like her than hate her, that small slice of people still wavering in the middle won’t decide this thing.
Yes, her choice for VP could make a difference, and yes, a categorically stupid remark during the campaign could hurt her, but she’s going to be too cautious and well-rehearsed to make such a remark. Her response to questions about the TPP was a good indication. Very circumspect and noncommittal. Say hello to the country’s first woman president.
David Macaray is a playwright and author.
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:stoner: -on, Bro & Sis!
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No one wants to say with certainty who the next president will be. The election is too far away, too much can happen between now and then, and, most importantly, the identity of the Republican nominee hasn’t even been determined yet.
Alas, those considerations, as valid as they may be, don’t really apply here. The next president will be Hillary Clinton. Despite all the concerns about her “secret” emails, her alleged complicity in the Libyan fiasco, and the huge and possibly rancid amount of money the Clinton Foundation has amassed, it will still be Hillary. Here are five reasons.
TIMING. The allegations about Libya (How do you say “Whitewater” in Arabic? “Benghazi”) were first raised years ago and have lost whatever traction they may have had. The same with Hillary’s emails. Lots of smoke but little if any fire.
As for the Foundation mess, it won’t hurt her, because it’s being raised in April 2015. Even if they persist for a while (even if they hang on for a few more months), by the time the November 2016 election rolls around, all of that stuff will be “old news.”
CYNICISM. People now have such a low opinion of politicians that finding out that one of them may have been unduly influenced by money isn’t even going to move the needle. A sex scandal, a drug addiction, a falsified résumé, or naked plagiarism might undermine a candidate’s chances, but wallowing in other people’s money ain’t going to do it. We’ve simply become too jaded.
CHOICES. Even in the unlikely event that Mitt Romney comes to the rescue, the Republican field is extremely thin. Truth be told (and as unfair as it is to say), Rand Paul doesn’t even look like a president. Moreover, the further these potential candidates go into primary season, the more vicious their infighting will become, the more negative their campaigns will become, and the more ammunition Hillary will be given to fight with.
TACTICS. Hillary’s formidable team simply won’t allow her to lose. They won’t allow anything negative to stain her for long. Her rebuttals will be sharp and crisp and, most importantly, instantaneous. Yes, her team “allowed” her to lose to Barack Obama, but that was the 2008 primary, which was a whole other deal. This will be the general election, and Hillary will emerge from the primary virtually unscathed.
INERTIA. People who like Hillary will vote for her no matter what, and people who strongly dislike her will vote against her no matter what. And because more people now tend to like her than hate her, that small slice of people still wavering in the middle won’t decide this thing.
Yes, her choice for VP could make a difference, and yes, a categorically stupid remark during the campaign could hurt her, but she’s going to be too cautious and well-rehearsed to make such a remark. Her response to questions about the TPP was a good indication. Very circumspect and noncommittal. Say hello to the country’s first woman president.
David Macaray is a playwright and author.
The underlined tells you all you ned to know. :-)
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Ya know, I don't think they are. Right now with the Red states going for opening up and the Blue ones prolonging the lockdown and even doubling down on Draconian enforcement, I think they may be tipping it over the edge.
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I'm not going to predict because there is a lot of time between now and November. I will say this: it would probably be a slam dunk for the Dems IF they hadn't gone bat-crap socialist crazy over the last few years. People in this country DON'T want cradle-to-grave socialism. Especially when we've all had a taste of empty shelves, rationing, and government crackdown of our freedoms.
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DIVINEprividence (137 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213435298
A friendly reminder WE ARE WINNING
Electoral votes
Biden: 352
Individual One: 148
Ties: 38
Did I miss the election? :-) :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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DIVINEprividence (137 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213435298
A friendly reminder WE ARE WINNING
Electoral votes
Biden: 352
Individual One: 148
a creeper with dementia is projected to get 46 more votes than President Trump did in 2016?
:rotf: :lmao: :rofl:
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DIVINEprividence (137 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213435298
A friendly reminder WE ARE WINNING
Electoral votes
Biden: 352
Individual One: 148
Ties: 38
Somebody must have got their check and bought some really good weed. They're smoking something pretty good.
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Did I miss the election? :-) :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Just the latest one the DUmbasses imagine after a long night of alcohol and drug fueled debauchery in their basements.
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Should I mention the XiNN poll where Trump is trouncing Joey Fingers?
Yes I think I should just for entertainment value but as always remember the Winston Wolf Rule.
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DIVINEprividence (137 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213435298
A friendly reminder WE ARE WINNING
Electoral votes
Biden: 352
Individual One: 148
Ties: 38
Electoral-vote.com
This poll of polls is updated daily and very reputable.
If you think about it, Trump should be wiping us out. Most President’s get a big rally effect in a crisis, he has the money/social media advantage, he has the bully pulpit and can dominate a news cycle whenever he wants, he is corrupt and has corrupted the entire GOP who will stoop as low as low can go if need be, and yet he is losing, and these numbers have been very consistent and trending worse for Trump. We have avoided a protracted and divisive primary. You can’t underestimate how important that is. Imagine if it were a tie and these two were going to blows right now. That would have been an epic disaster. Biden has done an outstanding job unifying the Party by engaging Bernie and the progressive wing into policy discussions. Campaigning during a pandemic will be a tremendous challenge and we need all hands on deck to seize media cycles away from Trump and counter his propaganda. We are winning, but let’s play like we are behind.
https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2020/Pres/Maps/May07.html
Alrighty then. Let's just cancel the election while we are at it.