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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Kc25 on May 06, 2020, 12:44:52 PM
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Aristus (50,278 posts)
A guy on Facebook says that medical examiners are tagging all deaths as COVID-19 cases.
Car accident victims, cancer patients, gunshot wounds, all being recorded as death from COVID-19 to boost the death toll and discredit Trump.
I got a massive headache just now from trying to think down to that level.
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I don't know about this random FB guy. But, as a nurse, I do know that many of the CoVid-19 deaths are people who were already waiting for the Grim Reaper to arrive anyways. I am not trying to be callous, or minimize someone's loss; but the hospice patient that died of CoVid today instead of Cancer tomorrow ... is not an accurate indicator of the mortality of CoVid. I have long said that there is a far greater % infected/recovered than what the current reporting shows (tbh - what it can show). When the antibody tests are accurate and widespread, I predict a (relatively) low mortality rate.
In Los Angeles County, over 50% of the deaths that are CoVid were nursing home residents. People are not in nursing homes because they are "Cheap places to live and be taken care of," most have multiple diagnoses that contribute greatly to increased mortality individually, and when they are compounded... well... you're smart enough to figure it out.
For a moment, Let's pretend that this is the threat to the species that many on the left would have us believe. What is their end-game? what is their plan? That we shelter at home, until there is a collapse of society? Do they envision a bunch of "free stuff" for everyone for the duration....? Eventually, people will become more hungry than they are afraid of the virus. What do DUmmies think will happen then?
I don't pretend to have the answers. But I do know, something has to give, and if it is a bursting at the seams because people are hungry, need shelter, transportation, etc... it will not be pretty.
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Rumor was that if a person died and tested positive for the Chinese Lung Flu that the cause of death was listed as CLF related rather than the actual cause that could have been something like congestive heart failure.
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Kc, I agree with the mortality being low. I think as you do, once we get the antibody tests out, and they are accurate, the mortality is going to be adjusted down. My personal opinion that it is going to be along the lines of the normal seasonal flu.
I read the other day that flu deaths are magically WAY down. I wonder how many of them were falsely attributed to COVID when they were in fact normal flu strains.
KC
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Kc, I agree with the mortality being low. I think as you do, once we get the antibody tests out, and they are accurate, the mortality is going to be adjusted down. My personal opinion that it is going to be along the lines of the normal seasonal flu.
I read the other day that flu deaths are magically WAY down. I wonder how many of them were falsely attributed to COVID when they were in fact normal flu strains.
KC
Happen to recall where you read that? Did it happen to be from a peer reviewed source, or cite a peer reviewed source? If it is, I can make it mandatory reading for my nursing students, and make them write about from a critical thinking stand point.
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Rumor was that if a person died and tested positive for the Chinese Lung Flu that the cause of death was listed as CLF related rather than the actual cause that could have been something like congestive heart failure.
That's basically what I was saying. If a patient on hospice tests postive for CoVid-19 at time of death... but only contracted the virus yesterday --dies today... Covid WAS NOT the cause of death.
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Happen to recall where you read that? Did it happen to be from a peer reviewed source, or cite a peer reviewed source? If it is, I can make it mandatory reading for my nursing students, and make them write about from a critical thinking stand point.
Nope, it was something I read in passing on Instagram or something. It's something that may, or may not, be true. But, I did post in the General Discussion about our deaths being down for the year.
Gateway Pundit put it together and linked to the CDC. We are something like 15% lower on our deaths for this time of year based on the average deaths of the last 4 years. Now, could this be because no one is going anywhere? Possibly, but we haven't been on lock down since January, that only started in March. His article is going by the weeks of the year.
I thought it was interesting.
KC
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Nope, it was something I read in passing on Instagram or something. It's something that may, or may not, be true. But, I did post in the General Discussion about our deaths being down for the year.
Gateway Pundit put it together and linked to the CDC. We are something like 15% lower on our deaths for this time of year based on the average deaths of the last 4 years. Now, could this be because no one is going anywhere? Possibly, but we haven't been on lock down since January, that only started in March. His article is going by the weeks of the year.
I thought it was interesting.
KC
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That is interesting and it is something that I will look into, I try to make the students think critically, as opposed to just forcing POVs on them.