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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on May 05, 2020, 09:35:04 AM
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Star Member bigtree (75,492 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213392883
Michelle Obama: "A lot of our folks didn't vote. It was almost like a slap in the face."
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Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 22m
"A lot of our folks didn't vote. It was almost like a slap in the face."
"Every time Barack didn't get the Congress he needed, that was because our folks didn't show up. After all that work, they couldn't be bothered ... That's my trauma."
Maybe, just maybe, they have you figured as an elitist POS who doesn't give a shit about 'your people'...
Star Member Celerity (10,389 posts)
1. Black voter turnout fell in 2016, even as a record number of Americans cast ballots
hmmm... wonder why that would be?
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/640/cpsprodpb/C187/production/_89334594_hillaryhot.png)
“Black Voters Aren’t Turning Out For The Post-Obama Democratic Party.” It’s a familiar headline in the aftermath of the 2016 presidential election. Indeed, post-election analysis of voter data shows black turnout in presidential elections declined 4.7 percent between 2012 and 2016 (overall turnout showed a small decline from 61.8 percent in 2012 to 61.4 percent in 2016).
How do we explain it — and can it be changed? My ongoing research with Ismail White on political norms among black Americans says we ought to have expected the decline, but that the Democratic Party can do much more to cut it back by recognizing how social dynamics shape African-American politics.
Some have attributed the decline in black turnout to voter suppression tactics made possible by the Shelby v. Holder (2013) decision that rescinded key protections from the Voting Rights Act. But black turnout saw similar declines in states where no new voter laws were implemented after the Shelby decision. Others have simplistically pointed to the absence of the first black president on the ballot — as if that fact offers an explanation. Our work on the social dynamics of politics within the black community provides the missing explanation.
In our recent publication in the American Political Science Review, we argue that the continued social isolation of blacks in American society has created spaces and incentives for the emergence of black political norms. Democratic partisanship has become significantly tied to black identity in the United States. The historical and continued racial segregation of black communities has produced spaces in which in-group members can leverage social sanctions against other group members to ensure compliance with group partisan norms.
(https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/08/30/16/mark-burns-tweet-square.jpg)
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MILWAUKEE — Four barbers and a firefighter were pondering their future under a Trump presidency at the Upper Cutz barbershop last week.
“We got to figure this out,” said Cedric Fleming, one of the barbers. “We got a gangster in the chair now,” he said, referring to President-elect Donald J. Trump.They admitted that they could not complain too much: Only two of them had voted. But there were no regrets. “I don’t feel bad,” Mr. Fleming said, trimming a mustache. “Milwaukee is tired. Both of them were terrible. They never do anything for us anyway.”
Wisconsin, a state that Hillary Clinton had assumed she would win, historically boasts one of the nation’s highest rates of voter participation; this year’s 68.3 percent turnout was the fifth best among the 50 states. But by local standards, it was a disappointment, the lowest turnout in 16 years. And those no-shows were important. Mr. Trump won the state by just 27,000 voters.
Milwaukee’s lowest-income neighborhoods offer one explanation for the turnout figures. Of the city’s 15 council districts, the decline in turnout from 2012 to 2016 in the five poorest was consistently much greater than the drop seen in more prosperous areas — accounting for half of the overall decline in turnout citywide.
The biggest drop was here in District 15, a stretch of fading wooden homes, sandwich shops and fast-food restaurants that is 84 percent black. In this district, voter turnout declined by 19.5 percent from 2012 figures, according to Neil Albrecht, executive director of the City of Milwaukee Election Commission. It is home to some of Milwaukee’s poorest residents and, according to a 2016 documentary, “Milwaukee 53206,” has one of the nation’s highest per-capita incarceration rates.
At Upper Cutz, a bustling barbershop in a green-trimmed wooden house, talk of politics inevitably comes back to one man: Barack Obama. Mr. Obama’s elections infused many here with a feeling of connection to national politics they had never before experienced. But their lives have not gotten appreciably better, and sourness has set in.
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Star Member zentrum (8,854 posts)
11. But she's also talking
....about the years prior to 2016. When they didn't turn out to give Obama the Congress he needed.
The Mouth (1,721 posts)
27. Well, our AA contingent basically put their foot down this time and said "BIDEN"
So hopefully they will turn out. Joe was far from my first choice, but the conventional wisdom is that African Americans are our core constituency of the Democratic Party and *must* be listened to, so let's hope so!
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dawg day (4,559 posts)
2. I think it's not really fair for the country to always rely on black voters-
to counteract the idiocy and greed of so many white voters.
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Star Member lark (15,640 posts)
7. My good friend who is also a black woman totally agrees with Michelle.
She was PISSED the day after the election at so many black women not voting when they came out for Obama. Funny, we argued about it, me telling her that most black women did support Hillary and it's old white women's fault if you are going to blame women. She wasn't having it and still feels like Michelle to this day. I love her passion, even if I don't agree with her blame. I definitely support her mission to get out everyone, every single person, to save the country in Nov.
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Star Member FailureToCommunicate (11,199 posts)
9. I can imagine ONE way to increase (Democratic) voter turnout...
Joe Biden picks Michelle for Vice President!
I KNOW Michelle has said no...
I know she has "done her time" in the public sphere...
I know it would be getting the old "band back together" (Michelle is married to the best President in recent memory)
BUT, Michelle IS the most popular person in America by various polls...
She would only have to say yes...for the good of the nation...
and the rest would be history.
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GusFring (546 posts)
12. One think about some in our community that we don't discuss, is homophobia.
A lot of them are pissed that Barack Obama put gay rights high on his agenda. And some saw it as a slap in the face that he did that, but never came up with an agenda specifically for the black community. As a black person who adores the Obamas and isnt homophobic, I think he's the best potus of my lifetime. Its a shame he didn't market his accomplishments like that idiot Trump.
Well... Barry was gay before he was black, so...
Dem4Life1102 (1,973 posts)
14. Why is that?
I've never understood that. I did have a friend try to explain it to me once but really didn't understand his reasons.
religion.
GusFring (546 posts)
17. I don't know. I just know what some in my family and ppl around me say. I think it has something
To do with the church though. I'm not religious and didn't grow up in the church, so homophobia just isn't a thing with me.
https://mobile.twitter.com/rtyson82/status/1257378497036763138
Obama and Flint is mentioned a lot. I did think he handled that poorly.
Star Member GoCubsGo (23,523 posts)
16. How much of that was actually voter suppression, rather than turnout?
I strongly suspect that was large part of the problem in Wisconsin and Florida. Most likely Michigan, as well.
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